Looks like we're in WW3 soon...

[willie]

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Originally Posted by Homesick
Here, Vrai, as you. But not easy watching what it is becoming. I think you know what I mean.




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you are a freak

Coming from you that's a compliment. Thank you.

Who are you talking to now?

 

[Bruzilla]

Iran is a little more than scary. People laugh at Ahmadinejihad and say he is just a lunatic but......his rhetoric and actions are part of his EVIL islamic plan. He truly believes that an all out world wide war will hasten the return of their 'messiah'. He believes that it is his onus to bring about the showing of their savior, the long awaited Imam. If you do a little digging about him, you will find that he is NOT nuts, only an overly religious zelot that is a "true" follower of the death cult known as Islam.

My guess is that this guy is no more a zealot than Hussein is or Hitler was. He wants power, not God's bessings. Just like Hussein, he wants to unify the Middle East, with himself as the all-powerful leader of course. The religious schtick is just a means to an end. If he truly thought that an all-out holy war was going to do him any good he would already be in the trenches by now and he wouldn't be using Lebanon as a proxy. He's being very careful to make sure his undies stay clean throughout this crisis.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Isreal can take care of herself and does not need our support what so ever.

 

[beavis]

Isreal can take care of herself and does not need our support what so ever.

We are fighting the same war as Israel.

Same terrorists. Same zealots. Same murderers. Same muslims.

...and the more we kill, seperately or with our allies, the safer this world becomes. Israel and ALL of our allies need our help against the militant muslim horde that wants to rule the world.

psycho-MUSLIMS = a safer future.

 

[Bustem' Down]

We are fighting the same war as Israel.

Same terrorists. Same zealots. Same murderers. Same muslims.

...and the more we kill, seperately or with our allies, the safer this world becomes. Israel and ALL of our allies need our help against the militant muslim horde that wants to rule the world.

psycho-MUSLIMS = a safer future.

1) Isreal is not an ally to trust. Isreal does for Isreal, not for the betterment of the world.

2) Isreal has proven time and again it's ability to defend itself and so does not need our help.

3) We have enough business at hand without getting involved somewhere else. It's not our fight, period.

 

[jackoholic]

Let the middle east fend for themselves. Pull all Americans out, leave all weapons behind, air drop some more, cut all aid, embargo everything and see how they handle shiat for themselves. After they've killed each other and they're starving for aid and food, then we'll talk to them on OUR TERMS!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is time we take the money we give to the overseas nations and start giving it to our own people, ex. SSI, to help make us stronger for the future of America!!! And if corporate America has a problem with it we'll drag them in the street and beat some sense into them. Time to get back to what our forefathers intend for this nation.

 

[MMDad]

I'm surprised that people think Iran hates us because of Islam, or because we don't adequately oppress our women. That's just a convenient excuse, and it is naive.

Look back to 1953, when the CIA hired mobs to demonstrate violently in Tehran, spread misinformation, and controlled the press in order to install our chosen puppet, the shah, all because of the National Iranian Oil Company.

The shah became increasingly autocratic and tyrannical, and we continued to support him. The Iranians were able to see this, and it led to the 1979 revolution. People think the hostages were taken because the Iranians just hated us, but the truth is that we allowed the Shah to come to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians saw that as us sheltering the shah from justice.

Next, the Iran-Iraq war started, and we were so anti-Iranian that we backed Saddam. Kuwait bankrolled Iraq to the tune of $14 billion. When Iran's Naval blockade started becoming effective, we broke the blockade. We even put US flags on Kuwaiti tankers and escorted them safely (mostly) through the gulf. How should Iran have seen us? We are supporting their enemy, We are protecting Kuwait, who is bankrolling their enemy, and we have broken their Naval blockade.

Iran hates us because we treated them poorly. That doesn't make what they are now doing right, or what we are now doing wrong, but it does help if we understand their motivation.

 

[Bruzilla]

3) We have enough business at hand without getting involved somewhere else. It's not our fight, period.

I have to disagree with that statement. After two weeks of fighting what has happened? Aside from some weakly-worded statements from a few leaders, the World is pretty much sitting back and letting Israel do its thing. The Lebanese Prime Ministers said that he would use his military to support Hezbollah if the Israelis entered Lebabnon, but now the Israelis are going in, albeit on a limited basis, yet there's been no support for Hezbollah raining in from Lebanon, Syria, or Iran. When you think about it, Hezbollah is as much a PITA to the Lebanese government as it is to the Israelis, so I'm thinking that any support that the Lebanese military is going to provide to Hezbollah is going to be tokein at best. Syria is taking its traditional position as middle east post sitter, which leaves Iran.

It's shaping up more and more that Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt are all showing signs of moderation towards terrorism, the US, Israel, etc. We're now looking at isolating Iran more and more everyday as no one is actively supporting them or Hezbollah, and Syria is going to take back their support the minute it looks like things aren't going their way. Iran has been the biggest supporter of terrorism for decades now and there's no way we can fight a war on terror without taking these guys out. The insurgency in Iraq is supported mostly by Iran, so bagging those guys will help to stabilize Iraq, and with the abscence of any other major instigators in the region maybe we can finally get some peace out there.

 

[Bruzilla]

I'm surprised that people think Iran hates us because of Islam, or because we don't adequately oppress our women. That's just a convenient excuse, and it is naive.

Look back to 1953, when the CIA hired mobs to demonstrate violently in Tehran, spread misinformation, and controlled the press in order to install our chosen puppet, the shah, all because of the National Iranian Oil Company.

The shah became increasingly autocratic and tyrannical, and we continued to support him. The Iranians were able to see this, and it led to the 1979 revolution. People think the hostages were taken because the Iranians just hated us, but the truth is that we allowed the Shah to come to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians saw that as us sheltering the shah from justice.

Next, the Iran-Iraq war started, and we were so anti-Iranian that we backed Saddam. Kuwait bankrolled Iraq to the tune of $14 billion. When Iran's Naval blockade started becoming effective, we broke the blockade. We even put US flags on Kuwaiti tankers and escorted them safely (mostly) through the gulf. How should Iran have seen us? We are supporting their enemy, We are protecting Kuwait, who is bankrolling their enemy, and we have broken their Naval blockade.

Iran hates us because we treated them poorly. That doesn't make what they are now doing right, or what we are now doing wrong, but it does help if we understand their motivation.

Great points... too bad it's not 1979 and you could go tell Jimmy Carter he's messing up. What's happening now is the result of current events, which is yet another power-hungry leader wanting to take over the Middle East.

 

[willie]

I'm surprised that people think Iran hates us because of Islam, or because we don't adequately oppress our women. That's just a convenient excuse, and it is naive.

Look back to 1953, when the CIA hired mobs to demonstrate violently in Tehran, spread misinformation, and controlled the press in order to install our chosen puppet, the shah, all because of the National Iranian Oil Company.

The shah became increasingly autocratic and tyrannical, and we continued to support him. The Iranians were able to see this, and it led to the 1979 revolution. People think the hostages were taken because the Iranians just hated us, but the truth is that we allowed the Shah to come to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians saw that as us sheltering the shah from justice.

Next, the Iran-Iraq war started, and we were so anti-Iranian that we backed Saddam. Kuwait bankrolled Iraq to the tune of $14 billion. When Iran's Naval blockade started becoming effective, we broke the blockade. We even put US flags on Kuwaiti tankers and escorted them safely (mostly) through the gulf. How should Iran have seen us? We are supporting their enemy, We are protecting Kuwait, who is bankrolling their enemy, and we have broken their Naval blockade.

Iran hates us because we treated them poorly. That doesn't make what they are now doing right, or what we are now doing wrong, but it does help if we understand their motivation.

Correct on all counts however it's out of date. Instead of instilling hatred into a generation that knows nothing of the Shah, they have preyed on their religious fanaticism. It's more effective to promise a bunch of vigins to a nation of repressed perverts.

 

[willie]

Isreal can take care of herself and does not need our support what so ever.

They need our weapons and it's a good investment for us.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Looks like we're in WW3... 07-25-2006 10:36 PM put your head back in the hole in the sand.

Lick my sac. You have anything intelligent to add to the convesation then post it, otherwise take your sniveling ignorance elsewhere.

 

[Bustem' Down]

They need our weapons and it's a good investment for us.

That's fine, I don't have a problem with that, that's just good commerce.

 

[Purplefox]

OK, I can't remember who said that religion was not a factor, and I know this is Drudge (grain of salt)....but coming the way of WSJ....

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm

This man has taken upon himself to usher in the last (or 12th or hidden...whatever) Imam....

Any thoughts?

Hey, what is everyone doing on the 22nd of August? I will most likely have a double crown and toast up!

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

So what do you think about it all?

I think it's imminent, this year.

 

[itsbob]

You're not stupid, think about it and honestly admit....look what women and children are becoming........who can blame them not wanting their children and women becoming what they have become here today?

Yeah, woman bad.. put burka on.. stay in home..

Independence, wealth and education should only be for men.

The muslims man biggest fear is a woman like Condi Rice.. Educated, smart sucessful.. goes against EVERYthing their faith teaches them.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

N Korea is shootin missles off again....

We have greatly underestimated their ability I think. Remember the long-range missile that crashed. That's reportedely what they wanted it to do.

Perfect timing if they are shooting off more missiles. Last time they thought they could do it and avoid world scruitny by doing it on a holiday and that didn't work. Now doing it while a war is being waged - great.

 

[Bustem' Down]

The muslims man biggest fear is a woman like Condi Rice.. Educated, smart sucessful.. goes against EVERYthing their faith teaches them.

Your stero-typing. There are musilm countries where women have rights.

 

[itsbob]

Your stero-typing. There are musilm countries where women have rights.

Yeah, like the US.. where female members of the church wear burkas.. and don't drive cars, and let themselves be treated like property moreso then a person, because Muhammed said it was to be so..

 

[SamSpade]

Yeah, like the US.. where female members of the church wear burkas.. and don't drive cars, and let themselves be treated like property moreso then a person, because Muhammed said it was to be so..

How about Turkey? Or Pakistan? Both of which have had female prime ministers.