BOP
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Which is it: he needs to see it before he can offer you a price, or he's solid on $250 for everything that needs to be done?
Machine Shops in Calvert County
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Which is it: he needs to see it before he can offer you a price, or he's solid on $250 for everything that needs to be done?
steppinthrax
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And there is the crate engine market.
I'm quite familiar with that engine. ;-)
Cost per hole to bore and hone is the same regardless. Cost to grind a crank, per journal, might be higher than for a larger engine...because the initial setup time is the same, but with fewer journals to grind.
huntr1
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I don't know the name of the shop, but there was an engine shop in Mechanicsville, at the corner of 5 & 235, in the auto building just north of the Dollar General. They moved up 5 to the house where Motovations was before the owner went to work at Clinton Cycles. They may be able to do what you want.
most remand engines @ Advanced or Auto Zone come out of Mexico .... look on fleabay some time
modern how ?
once the tanking and boring is done, I've seen guys put Saturn 4cy together in their garages .... or is the difficulty in the machine work ... to which you speak
The list of "gotchas" is long and getting longer. Heads that cannot be milled because of the tolerances on valve clearance and cam drives....cranks that cannot simply be ground; they have to be post-treated (nitriding, for example)...cylinders that cannot be bored....
Most of the newest engine designs are intended/expected to run for 300K miles or more and a lot of them routinely do. And then be replaced. OF course there were/are plenty of the heavy old iron engines of the day that went 300K plus too..but they don't make 'em like that any more.
steppinthrax
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IDK
I'm a little bit of a gear head, I drive cars until the wheel falls off. LOL.
I hate this kind of situation where cars and machines are being designed so they are no longer "really" serviceable. My 99 Camry has 142K on it right now. Based on how I've been taking care of this car it will probably go above 200K. The way it's burning oil (very little), I will probably need to overhaul at 300K or so. I will split that engine apart and take it to a machine shop, have them do the whole 9 yards. Now It seems my options are limited!
Yep...and here is a big reason why:
http://www.enginesus.com/rebuilt-toyota-engines/
I still build quite a few engines but only for my "toys"...as a hobby. I'm glad I don't rely on automotive machine work to make a living. Back in the 80s, it helped pay for college. Today...it's a losing proposition.
steppinthrax
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Yeah but that option is much more expensive. You are paying around 1000 for a engine, while you can pay much less by giving someone your engine block.
LMAO. Uh...no. That is incredibly cheap. That was exactly my point and exactly why the auto machine shops have close up. Your typical automotive machine shop would charge at least 600-700 to clean/bore/hone/square the block, turn the crank, disassemble and surface the head, grind valves, cut seats. Reassemble head. Then add in reconditioning the rods, R&R the pistons....what if valves and/or guides are required?...and on and on.
Then you add in the cost of the master rebuild kit with new pistons ($400?..don't really know for the imports)
steppinthrax
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While cheap,
The issue I see with this is "you're not there". You mail in your head and wait. I like to be able to hand the part over and talk to the people doing the work. Ask them questions, ask their opinion on projects etc... It may not make sense, but I would pay a little more knowing I"m getting it done by a local business in my area and supporting Somd/Calvert economy.
I understand that perfectly. You keep missing the fact I've pointed out several times; that I've been an automotive machinist for well over 30 years. I still do all my own engine work. It definitely was a shame to see that kind of service shop almost disappear, yes..but of course I understand why it has.
There was once quite a few auto machine shops in St. Marys' county. Now there are almost none.
Not how most of them work at all. You buy the remanned head, long block or shortblock and then send you old one back in the same crate with a shipper's call tag.
cannot bore a cylinder ... that sux
my Saturn is 224,000 now
I guess these days are gone ...