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PJumper
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Azzy said:And still no one says anything about how little the military gets paid
I'm retired military and they only show the base pay as taxable income ($30K). They also get housing allowance and basic subsistence allowance and his case, family separation allowance and hazardous duty pay. To sum sum it up, he gets an additional 2k a month in non taxable income (actually, that 30K is also not taxed since he is in a combat zone).
Fubar
Look my ass glows!
Ms. Hall had her 3 kids (and her pregnant sister) in her car-WTH kind of example is she setting for her kids? Was she wrong? YES. Is she guilty? YES. Is wasting 2 years of her life in jail, along with the TON of taxpayer money to pay for it appropriate? NOT. Heres the best punishment in my view-NO DRIVING for 2 years. No car, no license... every day when she has to figure out how to get groceries, get her kids to school, and has to ask others for help because of what she did, she will remember just as well as in a cell.
Theres also a policy on Camp Lejeune, that if you get in trouble in the civilian world, you lose your driving privledges on base. That means she can no longer operate a motor vehicle on base. She loses her base driving privledges till the base traffic court deems her privledges have been restored again. She has to go take a driver improvement program through the base. This sort of thing might have an effect on her husband as well if he holds a security clearance....
Fubar
Look my ass glows!
Just what her jarhead needs on his 3 tour, a letter from jail.....dumb bia.protectmd said:Theres also a policy on Camp Lejeune, that if you get in trouble in the civilian world, you lose your driving privledges on base. That means she can no longer operate a motor vehicle on base. She loses her base driving privledges till the base traffic court deems her privledges have been restored again. She has to go take a driver improvement program through the base. This sort of thing might have an effect on her husband as well if he holds a security clearance....
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Yep, all in all, after the first couple years, military pay really isn't that bad.PJumper said:
Lugnut
I'm Rick James #####!
Bustem' Down said:
Heh, I still remember a chief yelling at some poor schmuck E-1 who had just got married on the spur of the moment and was complaining about pay/time away from the wife etc...
"Son if the Navy had wanted you to have a wife, the Navy would have issues her to you in your seabag! Now get on the god damned ship!"
I was wondering about that - if he could get in trouble for her actions.protectmd said:
The story is trying to make her appear sympathetic - she had this screaming child and a pregnant sister, etc etc, like she was justified in assaulting another motorist. Crazy.
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
You're right, she was wrong whether it was a rock or a used tissue. At high speeds you're not going to automatically going to reconize what's coming at you and it could have caused an accident. Who cares if her husband is in Iraq, it doesn't allow her to do whatever the hell she pleases with no reprocusions.vraiblonde said:
BlackSheep
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They were in a traffic jam-but you are 10000% correct-wonder how SHE would have reacted if it had been thrown at her!Bustem' Down said:
She's very lucky the other driver didn't have a gun!
BlackSheep
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I think the part of the story which eludes this woman's defenders is that she deliberately drove off the road and up the shoulder to catch up to the "agressive" driver in order to throw her cup of ice into his car.
In my book, that takes it beyond a "reflexive" action of road rage (and that's probably what the jury thought).
Also, there are differing stories about this incident. In one story, the sister is having "early contractions" and is being driven to the hospital. In another story (the one presented in court), they are following behind their father on a trip to New York. In either story, the sister is supposed to have been "thrown" into the dashboard when this woman hit her brakes because the "agressive" driver "cut her off" (a difficult feat if the sister was wearing her seat belt as the law requires).
I don't understand how people can defend this woman, who is the more agressive of the drivers, and seem to think that she was just innocently driving along when some other person caused her to lose her temper and go out of her way to take revenge. Her situation is entirely her fault.
Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to drive up the shoulder to throw that cup of ice.
She chose that course of action all on her own, and now she gets to pay for her irrational actions.
In my book, that takes it beyond a "reflexive" action of road rage (and that's probably what the jury thought).
Also, there are differing stories about this incident. In one story, the sister is having "early contractions" and is being driven to the hospital. In another story (the one presented in court), they are following behind their father on a trip to New York. In either story, the sister is supposed to have been "thrown" into the dashboard when this woman hit her brakes because the "agressive" driver "cut her off" (a difficult feat if the sister was wearing her seat belt as the law requires).
I don't understand how people can defend this woman, who is the more agressive of the drivers, and seem to think that she was just innocently driving along when some other person caused her to lose her temper and go out of her way to take revenge. Her situation is entirely her fault.
Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to drive up the shoulder to throw that cup of ice.
She chose that course of action all on her own, and now she gets to pay for her irrational actions.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
20 year retirement.. and about the pay.. It's sad, it took me 15 years to get to the paygrade I retired at, and the college kids they hire start at more then I was making when I retired.2ndAmendment said:
The part about food stamps is
Don't know where she lives, but we had two kids living on E-4 pay, and never needed nor asked for welfare assistance or food stamps. I'd bet they probably also own a new car, and a COOL entertainment system too..
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Inkpen
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Many members of the military with families ARE on food stamps.
This woman has no job, 3 kids and has to care for a family on 30,000 a year.
$100.00 a week for 4 people to eat on equals MacDonalds dollar meals, etc.
Used to be you had to ask permission to marry in the military due to the expense involved/ financial burden it created.
And now CNN is reporting she is wanted in Missisippi? Wow..she does get around!
Sad situation, but thankfully no one was hurt!
This woman has no job, 3 kids and has to care for a family on 30,000 a year.
$100.00 a week for 4 people to eat on equals MacDonalds dollar meals, etc.
Used to be you had to ask permission to marry in the military due to the expense involved/ financial burden it created.
And now CNN is reporting she is wanted in Missisippi? Wow..she does get around!
Sad situation, but thankfully no one was hurt!
Pete
Repete
You retired an E-5?itsbob said:20 year retirement.. and about the pay.. It's sad, it took me 15 years to get to the paygrade I retired at, and the college kids they hire start at more then I was making when I retired.
The part about food stamps is
O's do make more than E's, that is to be expected. The only way an E can get parity is to go Warrant or LDO.
This is true though. I don't know how many I called in for financial counselling that were E-4 with 2 kids and a $500 a month car payment and insurance was $150 a month.
The military pay scale was never intended to supposrt lower enlisted people who had a spouse and 3 kids. The pay scale is what it is and it is not a big secret revealed once you join. :shrug: The diffence if you are worth a crap you have great growth potential in a relatively short time. Being a roofer for $10 an hour you have no growth potential forever.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Not true. I reitred an "E" (as you call it) and never had a problem. It's all about choices. Many of these guys chose to have families too early. So it's not the pay that causes their financial problems, it's the living beyond their means.Pete said:
The thing about the military that doens't really exist anywhere else is promotions are completely fair and EVERYONE has the opportunity to be promoted and promoted quickly. THAT is your "parity".