MD ammunition tax bill: .05$ a round

Novus Collectus

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did you complain about the 2 dollars per pack tax on cigarettes?
thats .10 per smoke.
No I didn't because it actually helped me keep from smoking again. However I never in memory endorsed the tax either.

Besides, smoking has no other purpose than to support a habit or to be used as a luxury. Ammo is for sport, feeding the family through hunting and self defence.
Smoking is unhealthy for a good portion of users. Ammunition is only harmful when used in a crime and accidental injuries are incredibly rare in comparison to the percentage of smokers that get sick.
Taxing cigarettes is intended to reduce smoking which often harms people. An ammunition tax is intended to reduce gun ownership which are often used to save people's lives or feed families when used for hunting.

They are not the same. It is like trying to tax beer just because. Beer is a food staple and in moderation is a health benefit. Ammunition is used legally maybe 99.9999% of the time and very rarely harms anyone when used for sport.

Now one might try to argue that people getting shot by criminals costs the health system money and gets people harmed just like smoking does, but as stated above where the number of murders and illegal shootings using ammunition compared to the number of legally used ammunition is the total opposite of the number of smokers getting sick compared to the overall number of smokers, there is also the fact that if there was no tobacco available smokers will not search for other means, but the murderer without a gun will still kill their victim or try to.

Making ammunition more expensive or virtually unavailable to the law abiding public will do nothing to curb crime, but a high cigarette tax will induce more people to quit. One has a logical reasoning (right or wrong), and the other doesn't.
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
I'd love to see Police Dept's in Cali not be able to buy Handgun ammo because all the Ammo makers abandoned the state .... :whistle:

and no I do think if this thing passes the cops should be exempt - some are as crooked as the criminals ...........


Something else to smuggle into Cali ....... Ammo


Kinda like what Ronnie Barrett did to them?

Yeah this is such BS, I can't stand this state wish I could afford to pick up and move to VA or PA.
 
From what I understand is a microscopic fingerprint/serial number on the actual projectile... can you imagine the COST on this? The bill simply says encoding and California said "Oh, we will laser etch the case and bullet" - well, on impact the laser etching on the bullet will probably be trashed - so this leads to microscopic beads impregnated into/on the projectile...
In all honesty - I truly understand why, but it is HIGHLY impractical nor is it a viable solution.

So how are they going to encode individual shotgun pellets?

Only in MD, idiots... :coffee:

So true, what's even sadder is how people put up with it.
 
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czygvtwkr

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I see a great opportunity here to market a ray gun, no ammo, no engraving.
 

Novus Collectus

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I see a great opportunity here to market a ray gun, no ammo, no engraving.
Wait, not so fast. Does it use an electrical current? This is another bill in front of comittee:
(2) (I) “ELECTRONIC WEAPON” MEANS A PORTABLE DEVICE
DESIGNED AS A WEAPON CAPABLE OF INJURING OR IMMOBILIZING AN
INDIVIDUAL BY THE DISCHARGE OF ELECTRICAL CURRENT.
(II) “ELECTRONIC WEAPON” INCLUDES A STUN GUN AND A
TASER.
....



....
(C) EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION (B) OF THIS SECTION, A
PERSON MAY NOT:
(1) POSSESS OR USE AN ELECTRONIC WEAPON;
http://mlis.state.md.us/2008RS/bills/hb/hb0108f.pdf
 

Novus Collectus

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Laser beam all the way baby!
But if it ionizes the atoms in the air in the process, then the MD State Police might say that is an electric current and bannable under that law. :lmao:

No, but seriously, there are at least four states that have legislative language banning ray guns on the books. This stun gun ban would probably not make MD one of them, but you never know what a court may decide.
 
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czygvtwkr

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But if it ionizes the atoms in the air in the process, then the MD State Police might say that is an electric current and bannable under that law. :lmao:

No, but seriously, there are at least four states that have legislative language banning ray guns on the books. This stun gun ban would probably not make MD one of them, but you never know what a court may decide.

Hmmm how about a gun that shoots out a boxing glove on a spring like in the three stooges.......

Or a jack in the box that punches people when it opens.....

Liquid Manure gun......

The possibilities are endless!
 

Novus Collectus

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The bill has been basically killed by the committee with an "unfavorable" vote.
Thank you to everyone who wrote letters or called the delegates. They were reportedly overwhelmed, impressed and greatly influenced with the letters, calls and the eventual decent sized showing at the hearing.
This just goes to show that in MD it is possible to get favorable gun laws passed as well as long as we show them we are watching and remind them that we vote.
 
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