Misquoting Jesus

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

nhboy said:
Heyns Lecture Series Video
LINK
:popcorn: I like that video and its info and I wish Christians would finally face these reality so we could improve.

This kind of info from Biblical scholars has been around since at least 1707 and it became widely known by the early 1800's and I have read great informative books about Biblical criticism dated from 1920 - 1950 and we have it in this present day as in this link HERE.

By taking out the fake and wrong things from the Bible then the greater truth is all that remains,

and that greater truth really rocks. :larry:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:popcorn: I like that video and its info and I wish Christians would finally face these reality so we could improve.

This kind of info from Biblical scholars has been around since at least 1707 and it became widely known by the early 1800's and I have read great informative books about Biblical criticism dated from 1920 - 1950 and we have it in this present day as in this link HERE.

By taking out the fake and wrong things from the Bible then the greater truth is all that remains,

and that greater truth really rocks. :larry:
You are the greatest miss quoter of the Bible and scripture of all who participate in this forum.

The presenter in this video fails to mention that each scribes work was meticulously checked by a chief scribe. He says that the scribes made intentional changes. Jewish scribes were forbidden on pain of great penalties from making intentional changes or unintentional errors in their text.
2 Timothy 4:3-4

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
Titus 1:13-16

13This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith,

14not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth.

15To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.

16They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Uh Hello Just Plain Confused (JPC). Whose word are we going to be judged by? God's Word. What is another name for the Bible? God's Word. So, since this is true, don't you think it should be above reproach (which it is)? Many have come along trying to disprove it's contents. They either couldn't and got saved (good move) or they gave up to wait to see what happens on the other side.(bad move). Make a right statement here please or those wrong words of yours will be your downfall. I mean it JPC, you don't realize how dangerous what you say is. God uses Miranda rights too. "Anything you say can & will be used against you" on judgment day. :yay:
 

libby

New Member
I've never paid one whit of attention to JPC, but I find it funny how everyone but you (Italian ) mis-quotes Scripture.
Let me re-iterate, JPC may be a nutcase, I have no idea. I've never read his posts, but I've noticed many, many people do not like him, but that doesn't change what I'm saying.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
I have mis-interpreted some Scripture but haven't misquoted it. You can't go wrong when quoting it, but you can mis-interpret it's meaning. That is why I stick to what I know and speak authoritatively on it. If I'm not sure what it means, I usually don't quote that verse or I say "I think it means...".
 

libby

New Member
Well, I did use "mis-quote" because 2A did, but you are correct, that interpretation was the exercise in question.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

ItalianScallion said:
Uh Hello Just Plain Confused (JPC). Whose word are we going to be judged by? God's Word. What is another name for the Bible? God's Word.
:jameo: Claiming the Bible is "God's word" is not accurate not Biblically true at all.

The Bible says that Jesus the Christ is the word and not the Bible link HERE John 1:1-14

Claiming the Bible to be God's written word might sound nice but the Bible does not agree.


The apostle Paul said that all scripture is inspired of God link HERE but at that time the Bible was not written.

Therefore the modern Bible scholars now separate from the Bible what is indeed "scripture" and what is not.

Much of the Bible is fake and fraud like Jonah in the belly of a big fish and the last chapter of Mark's gosple which are clearly discovered as untrue.

When we take out the fake parts of the Bible then what is left is scripture indeed. :howdy:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
libby said:
Well, I did use "mis-quote" because 2A did, but you are correct, that interpretation was the exercise in question.
:jpcmoment: :banghead:

Miss state, misinterpret both apply to JPC.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
:jameo: Claiming the Bible is "God's word" is not accurate not Biblically true at all.

The Bible says that Jesus the Christ is the word and not the Bible link HERE John 1:1-14

Claiming the Bible to be God's written word might sound nice but the Bible does not agree.


The apostle Paul said that all scripture is inspired of God link HERE but at that time the Bible was not written.

Therefore the modern Bible scholars now separate from the Bible what is indeed "scripture" and what is not.

Much of the Bible is fake and fraud like Jonah in the belly of a big fish and the last chapter of Mark's gosple which are clearly discovered as untrue.

When we take out the fake parts of the Bible then what is left is scripture indeed. :howdy:
Another example of JPC stupidity.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
I hope people here realize that all this posting is done for accountability purposes. I can't change everyones mind about Biblical things but I can make them accountable for them. Even with the hardest of heads, accountability comes from hearing & reading. (Romans 10 v 14, 15). So 2A, Starman and others, don't give up because what we do here is not a waste of time. His Word does not return empty.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

SamSpade said:
Indeed. Peter refers to Paul's writings as "scripture".
:larry: Link to Bible text HERE if you have a reference to that claim. :jameo:

I think you will find that whenever I quote the Bible then I give a link.

It seems to me that Peter said Paul was hard to understand even though he called Paul's epistles (letters) as scripture, link HERE.

Not I nor the modern scholars say that all of the Bible is a fraud (some do) but there are many parts of the Bible that has hard and easy to see places that are fake or interpolations or just add on texts.

The synoptic problem is so well established since mid 1800's, that it is imposible to intelligently argue against it, link HERE.

It really would be nice for Christianity to come out of the darkness. :whistle:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC sr said:
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It really would be nice for Christianity to come out of the darkness. :whistle:
Christianity is the narrow gate to the light. Your persistent lies are the broad doorway to darkness.

It would be really nice if you would come out of your stupor.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

2ndAmendment said:
Christianity is the narrow gate to the light. Your persistent lies are the broad doorway to darkness.

It would be really nice if you would come out of your stupor.
:bigwhoop: I say that 2A has not-purposely shown a big reason for the confusion,

as many people worship Christianity but then dis-regard the Christ of the Bible.

Because Jesus Christ does not say the same things as does Christianity say. :popcorn:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

The presenter in this video fails to mention that each scribes work was meticulously checked by a chief scribe. He says that the scribes made intentional changes. Jewish scribes were forbidden on pain of great penalties from making intentional changes or unintentional errors in their text.
:popcorn:The video on that link refers to the Greek and Aramaic New Testiment and not the Hebrew Old Testiment,

so it was not Jewish scribes but rather the early Roman then Catholic writers that affected the Christian New Testiment.
:buddies:
 

worknsing

New Member
You know God give us free will to believe what we choose. The only thing you have to remember is there will be consequences for whichever you choose. Good ones for the right choosers and bad one for the wrong choosers.

For me, even thought I completely believe that the Bible is Gods' Holy Word( you know, if He can create the whole world and humans like you and me, then He surly can put a complet book togther and call it His word) I will er on the side of Heaven. What if you do not believe ( God says you can't add or take aways or the punishment will be severe) and you are wrong when judgement day comes? You won't have a chance to change your mind. I choose to believe and if the end comes and I'm wrong, oh well, nothing lost.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
:jameo: Claiming the Bible is "God's word" is not accurate not Biblically true at all.

The Bible says that Jesus the Christ is the word and not the Bible link HERE John 1:1-14

Claiming the Bible to be God's written word might sound nice but the Bible does not agree.


The apostle Paul said that all scripture is inspired of God link HERE but at that time the Bible was not written.

Therefore the modern Bible scholars now separate from the Bible what is indeed "scripture" and what is not.

Much of the Bible is fake and fraud like Jonah in the belly of a big fish and the last chapter of Mark's gosple which are clearly discovered as untrue.

When we take out the fake parts of the Bible then what is left is scripture indeed. :howdy:

Yet you use the Bible to substantiate your version of the truth. How odd! The scripture Paul was talking about was the Old Testament. No it wasn’t called the Old Testament then, it was simply called God’s Word or Holy Scripture or Tanakh.

But since you refer to the Bible so much to support your arguments against the Bible, perhaps you could outline which parts of the Bible God revealed to you as false?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Batman

But since you refer to the Bible so much to support your arguments against the Bible, perhaps you could outline which parts of the Bible God revealed to you as false?
:bigwhoop:Well I still like the Bible and I use it for reference often.

It is hard to give details because Christianity has worked so hard to silence the sourses of true scholar Biblical criticism.

I found the hard info in a 1923 book on the subject but now it is hard to find the truth.

Catholic Bible scholarship link HERE.

Old Testiment J, E, P, D, sourse discriptions, link HERE.

There are books in the Bible like Jonah and Esther that are more like children's tales than actual lies, like the three pigs or Robin Hood, ect.

The books are not true but they give a point to children. :diva:
 
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