Modern Biblical Scholarly Criticism.

[JPC, Sr.]

Does any one here know how great the Jesus Seminar is??

It is a group that tries to get to the real truth out of the Bible's New Testiment.

Christ did tell us to seek the truth. Here is a link to it at,

The Best Jesus Seminar Website.

We have Bible scholars and scholarly criticism which disects the scripture to dig the truth out. Many people find it difficult to face the reality that parts of the Bible is wrong and parts are fake, but I do not, and scholars from the Jesus Seminar try to get the truth out of the scriptures and it is very interesting indeed.

One significant point is that back in the 19th century old German scholars first discovered the synoptic problem in the Gospels. The 3 Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke are the 3 synoptic Gospels because they write about the same times and events synoptically. The scholars discovered the Gospel of Mark is the original of all the others. Then came Matthew and Luke which had to use Mark's writings in order to write their versions.

The Synoptic Problem shown just a little down this web page, click here.

Plus there is the missing Q sourse that both Matthew and Luke's Gospels used but Mark did not use. There is a scholar noted at the Jesus Seminar that thinks the Gospel of Matthew is the real Q source that Luke used and it is a strong argument indeed as opposed to a missing Q source.

Mark was accually the apprentice to the appostle Peter and so it is reasoned that the Gospel of Mark is actually the story that Peter told to Mark and then Mark wrote the first Gospel which came from Peter.

Anybody on here know about scholar research??

We must seek the truth.

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[Railroad]

JPC, thanks for passing the information about those folks. I won't have to waste any time on them.

 

[BS Gal]

JPC: PM slotted. He'll be very interested to talk about this with you.


Where is 2A when we need him?

 

[2ndAmendment]

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JPC: PM slotted. He'll be very interested to talk about this with you. Where is 2A when we need him?

I am sure this applies.

<h4>2 Timothy 4:1-5
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<p>&nbsp; ¹I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom:
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<p>&nbsp;²preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
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<p>&nbsp;³For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
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<p>&nbsp;⁴and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
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<p>&nbsp;⁵But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
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[JPC, Sr.]

The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

JPC, thanks for passing the information about those folks. I won't have to waste any time on them.

So I take it that no one so far knows anything about modern scholar research.

Perhaps some one later will give a post about the subject as I suspect there must be some one other then myself that actually seeks the truth.

I can wait..........

 

[bcp]

So I take it that no one so far knows anything about modern scholar research.

Perhaps some one later will give a post about the subject as I suspect there must be some one other then myself that actually seeks the truth.

I can wait..........

You dont seek the truth, you only want to hide and have other take care of your mistakes.
Now why dont you get your ass out of the seat at the library and let someone that is trying to better themselves use that computer.
The dumpster is calling your name.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Does any one here know how great the Jesus Seminar is??

It is a group that tries to get to the real truth out of the Bible's New Testiment.

Christ did tell us to seek the truth. Here is a link to it at,

The Best Jesus Seminar Website.

... ... ...

The Synoptic Problem shown just a little down this web page, click here.

... ... ...

Anybody on here know about scholar research??

We must seek the truth.

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FYI. Jesus never tought that people go to Heaven or to Hell. Jesus said for thy kingdom of God to come here on earth as it is in Heaven.

No person is burning in Hell. Everybody gets saved in the end. On Judgement Day then every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and thus everyone for all time gets saved. That was the true message from Christ. It is God's will that no one shall perish but that all men (male and female) would come to repentence. And so they all shall.

Jesus died for everyone and especially paid the price of the worst of sinners and so salvation is a totally free gift to the whole world. Whether they like it or not. Even the Devil gets saved in the end.

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[bcp]

No person is burning in Hell. Everybody gets saved in the end. On Judgement Day then every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and thus everyone for all time gets saved.

Bad thing is that
this is the battle cry of the Heathen. You can only be saved by a belief in Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
He is the light, and the way.

Good thing is that
Regardless of what my feelings about you as a person are, your salvation is between you and Jesus Christ.
I think you are on the wrong track, but only you know for sure, and even if you are, you still have time to know Jesus as your saviour and try to reconcile your sins prior to your demise.

I personally do not care for who you are, but I will pray for who you could still end up being with a solid Understanding and Love In Jesus Christ.

 

[mv_princess]

Could you please go with Jesus........and let us be.

I hear he would enjoy talking to you.

 

[bcp]

Could you please go with Jesus........and let us be.

I hear he would enjoy talking to you.

Me?

 

[mv_princess]

Me?

hahahaha no hunny not you....That JPC guy..........he needs Jesus in his life

 

[2ndAmendment]

FYI. Jesus never tought that people go to Heaven or to Hell. Jesus said for thy kingdom of God to come here on earth as it is in Heaven.

No person is burning in Hell. Everybody gets saved in the end. On Judgement Day then every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and thus everyone for all time gets saved. That was the true message from Christ. It is God's will that no one shall perish but that all men (male and female) would come to repentence. And so they all shall.

Jesus died for everyone and especially paid the price of the worst of sinners and so salvation is a totally free gift to the whole world. Whether they like it or not. Even the Devil gets saved in the end.

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You have never read the Bible have you?

Matthew 7:13-14

13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Matthew 7:21-23

21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

Luke 13:22-30
22And He was passing through from one city and village to another, teaching, and proceeding on His way to Jerusalem.

23And someone said to Him, "Lord, are there just a few who are being saved?" And He said to them,

24"Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

25"Once the head of the house gets up and shuts the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock on the door, saying, 'Lord, open up to us!' then He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know where you are from.'

26"Then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets';

27and He will say, 'I tell you, I do not know where you are from; DEPART FROM ME, ALL YOU EVILDOERS.'

28"In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves being thrown out.

29"And they will come from east and west and from north and south, and will recline at the table in the kingdom of God.

30"And behold, some are last who will be first and some are first who will be last."

These scriptures are all accounts of Jesus speaking and plainly saying that not everyone is going to get into heaven.

He did not say, "thy kingdom of God to come here on earth as it is in Heaven." That is a miss quote of what is known as the Lord's prayer.

Matthew 6:9-13

9"Pray, then, in this way:
'Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10'Your kingdom come
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
11'Give us this day our daily bread.
12'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]'

This obviously shows that Jesus knows that heaven and earth are two seperate places.

It is God's desire that all would be saved, but that is not what will happen. Your statements are false teachings.

John 3:16-21

16"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

17"For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

18"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19"This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

20"For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

21"But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."

And Jesus taught that people would burn in hell.

Matthew 5:21-30

21"You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'

22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

23"Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,

24leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering.

25"Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison.

26"Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent.

27"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY';

28but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

30"If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

You are deluded if you think satan does not get thrown into hell. Hell was created just for satan and the fallen angels.

2 Peter 2:1-11

1But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

2Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

3and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;

5and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;

7and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men

8(for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),

9then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,

10and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,

11whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.

Revelation 20:7-10

7When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison,

8and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.

9And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

10And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Your insight into Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible are false.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Bad thing is that
this is the battle cry of the Heathen. You can only be saved by a belief in Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
He is the light, and the way. ... ... ...

You are correct but on the Judgement Day, then everyone will believe and be saved. The price is paid in full already.

Things and the world will go better for each person if they do believe now and if they each comply now but even if one does not then still the worst of sinners has already been completely forgiven.

Here now on earth we reap whatever we sow but after life here we only reap what Christ has sown.

 

[mv_princess]

You are correct but on the Judgement Day, then everyone will believe and be saved. The price is paid in full already.

Things and the world will go better for each person if they do believe now and if they each comply now but even if one does not then still the worst of sinners has already been completely forgiven.

Here now on earth we reap whatever we sow but after life here we only reap what Christ has sown.

If you were a Priest would you touch little kids?

 

[rack'm]

You are correct but on the Judgement Day, then everyone will believe and be saved. The price is paid in full already.

Things and the world will go better for each person if they do believe now and if they each comply now but even if one does not then still the worst of sinners has already been completely forgiven.

Here now on earth we reap whatever we sow but after life here we only reap what Christ has sown.

Why do you need a book to tell you to be a good person?

 

[2ndAmendment]

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You are correct but on the Judgement Day, then everyone will believe and be saved. The price is paid in full already. Things and the world will go better for each person if they do believe now and if they each comply now but even if one does not then still the worst of sinners has already been completely forgiven. Here now on earth we reap whatever we sow but after life here we only reap what Christ has sown.

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<p><font size="7">Beware. False prophet.&nbsp;</font>
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[2ndAmendment]

<p>Thank you.
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<p>&nbsp;<font color="#ff0000"><span class="smallfont">he might be false, but the only reason you think so is b/c he disagrees with you, he could be right you know</span></font>
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<p>But because he disagrees with me is not the reason I know he is posting falsehoods; what he posts is not in agreement with the Bible. You would know that too if you believed in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit; and God's word, the Bible
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[JPC, Sr.]

The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

Why do you need a book to tell you to be a good person?

We do not.

The book(s) tell us how to do it right. It gives power to the doer.

 

[MMDad]

We do not.

The book(s) tell us how to do it right. It gives power to the doer.

If you claim to have read the Bible, how could you be so wrong? You tell us what you think it says, then 2A shows you the truth. If you really believe your version, cite scripture to support it. Your incessant babbling without substance is starting to make me believe that you aren't just a misguided fool, but that you are the false prophet that 2A called you.

If you seek knowledge and truth, there is much you can learn here. If you spout ignorant you will be exposed for the fool you are.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

If you claim to have read the Bible, how could you be so wrong? You tell us what you think it says, then 2A shows you the truth. If you really believe your version, cite scripture to support it. ... ...

My post on here have been quoting the Bible. I just did not put the text references in the post. The verses I used are all well known to persons that know the Bible and who might go to church or speak about the scriptures with others. I figured the Religion Thread was for persons that knew religion so I have been writing accordingly.

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