Modern Biblical Scholarly Criticism.

itsbob

I bowl overhand
JPC said:
:popcorn: Well I have been writing about psychology on another thread but here it goes here too.

:bigwhoop: From my study of psychology I found that all humans talk to themselves.

:yay: I do love the study of psychology as it is very empowering and liberating too.

:flowers: ------------------------- :wench:

WOW where did you go to school to learn so much about Psychology??
Tom Cruise, school of Psychology, and Scientology??

You're a nutjob..
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
JPC said:
:eyebrow: Does any one here know how great the Jesus Seminar is??

It is a group that tries to get to the real truth out of the Bible's New Testiment.

Christ did tell us to seek the truth. Here is a link to it at,


:yay: We have Bible scholars and scholarly criticism which disects the scripture to dig the truth out. Many people find it difficult to face the reality that parts of the Bible is wrong and parts are fake, but I do not, and scholars from the Jesus Seminar

:whistle: ------------------ :eyebrow:

PLEASE do yourself a favor, and stop the self education, it's not working.
I'd tell my twelve year old to go back and rewrite this post, but then again, she'd do much better then this in the first place. One thing worse then being a nut job, being a stupid nut job.
 
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JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Merlin said:
Well, maybe you should submit yourself for psychological study.
:elaine: That sounds like an interesting idea but I find that we all people tend to psychoanylize each other all the time. The real difference is that some of us really learn how to psychoanylize while the majority of people just spout their own biases. Other posters call me crazy but do not even express one real observation to back it up. They have a different opinion then mine so I must be nuts and then expect any one to take it seriously. The hard core Poker players are some of the best at psychoanylizing but they use their limited ability only for their greed. A jury in a jury trial must anylize the defendant to see if they be guilty or not. Even when we pass a stranger on the streets it is easy to psychoanylize them by their clothing or their car or their manner and temperment. Being in politics or management or any leadership position is scutinized the most actively.

:yay: So I say I am already submitting myself for psychoanylizing and so are everyone else but only a few of us know how to do it well or to do it right, as after all, that is the real relationship of all people to figure the others out.

:popcorn: ------------------------ :howdy:
 
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residentofcre

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JPC said:
:eyebrow: Does any one here know how great the Jesus Seminar is??

It is a group that tries to get to the real truth out of the Bible's New Testiment.

:yay: We have Bible scholars and scholarly criticism which disects the scripture to dig the truth out. Many people find it difficult to face the reality that parts of the Bible is wrong and parts are fake, but I do not, and scholars from the Jesus Seminar try to get the truth out of the scriptures and it is very interesting indeed.

The Jesus Seminar is a group of people who claim to be knowledgable in order to rebut the WORD. They are fake. They are distorting the truth to fit their purpose. The Jesus Seminar is a dangerous group. Anyone who has read the Bible knows that.

You need to stop pretending that you know what you are talking about. You may be getting in the way of someone's Salvation. This is very very dangerous. You don't need them. Just pick up a copy of the NIV Study Bible and start reading. It's really quite entertaining... and it will bless you.

You need to get on your knees and beg for forgiveness. It'll be ok, Jesus knows you are ignorant and He will forgive you if you ask Him too. You should thank Jesus for intervening on your behalf and ask Him to come into your life, forgive you for your sins, and show you the peace of freedom and most of all Salvation. JPC I am praying for you too....

Only in a Democracy can someone like you and a group like the Jesus Seminar get away with what is going on in this forum.

Jesus is the Truth. Jesus is the Light. Jesus died for you. Once you know that ... you will understand what truth and freedom really are.

I'm praying for you...
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
residentofcre said:
The Jesus Seminar is a group of people who claim to be knowledgable in order to rebut the WORD. They are fake. They are distorting the truth to fit their purpose. The Jesus Seminar is a dangerous group. Anyone who has read the Bible knows that.

You need to stop pretending that you know what you are talking about. You may be getting in the way of someone's Salvation. This is very very dangerous. You don't need them. Just pick up a copy of the NIV Study Bible and start reading. It's really quite entertaining... and it will bless you.

You need to get on your knees and beg for forgiveness. It'll be ok, Jesus knows you are ignorant and He will forgive you if you ask Him too. You should thank Jesus for intervening on your behalf and ask Him to come into your life, forgive you for your sins, and show you the peace of freedom and most of all Salvation. JPC I am praying for you too....

Only in a Democracy can someone like you and a group like the Jesus Seminar get away with what is going on in this forum.

Jesus is the Truth. Jesus is the Light. Jesus died for you. Once you know that ... you will understand what truth and freedom really are.

I'm praying for you...
He has been told this by me. I was willing to accept him as a brother in Christ until he started spouting that the Bible was not true and parts of the Bible were made up. I tried to get him to change going first in private, then to the church leadership (He, indirectly, was told from the alter that his teachings are false.), and now the church is being told of his false beliefs (Matt 18:15-17).

If he would repent, he, like all others, can have the gift of salvation. It is the best gift every given to man and it is free from God, but he rejects the Truth. The Holy Spirit would even correct his way of thinking. He would realize that as a father, he should support his child. But, he has shown himself to be quite arrogant and closed minded. God does not make us do anything, so like everyone else, the first step to receive salvation is his.
 
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JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

residentofcre said:
The Jesus Seminar is a group of people who claim to be knowledgable in order to rebut the WORD. They are fake. They are distorting the truth to fit their purpose. The Jesus Seminar is a dangerous group. Anyone who has read the Bible knows that.

... ... ... Jesus is the Truth. Jesus is the Light. Jesus died for you. Once you know that ... you will understand what truth and freedom really are.

I'm praying for you...
:elaine: Most churches offer an emotional salvation and the Jesus Seminar is trying to show salvation through truth and facts.

:yay: I like all ways. :howdy:
 
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residentofcre

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The false statements made by the Seminar have hindered seekers.

Let me give you an example of what is going on with this bunch of slugs.

There was a garden known for the most vivid glorious color and fragance. The garden was said to be so magnificent that it was unforgettable.

Outside the garden gate was a man known as the "Garden Experience Professor". He told people that he had experienced the garden and he knew everything. He would offer to show them the garden.

First he gave them a nose guard because the pollen really detracted from the beauty of the garden. Then he gave them a set of blinders to wear, because the loud colors of the flowers detracted from the beauty of the garden. He would then take them by the hand and lead them into the garden. He would then lead them through the garden and allowed them to experience the rose thorns and the thirstles.

Word of the man and the garden started to spread far and wide. People believed that he knew what he was talking about because after all he was the "Garden Experience Professor" People talked about the bleeding fingers and the pain of the experience. Soon everyone started to avoid the garden because according the "Garden Experience Professor" the garden wasn't really about the vivid colors or the wonderful fragrance that lingered in the back of the mind for a lifetime. The garden was a lie that only brought bleeding fingers and pain.

After a while... people forgot where the garden was.... people began to believe it never really existed it must have surely been a lie... the magnificent beauty must be in the mind... or found here or there.... in little portions.... After all.....

JPC are you leading people to the Garden Experience Professor?
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

residentofcre said:
The false statements made by the Seminar have hindered seekers.

Let me give you an example of what is going on with this bunch of slugs.

There was a garden known for the most vivid glorious color and fragance. The garden was said to be so magnificent that it was unforgettable.

Outside the garden gate was a man known as the "Garden Experience Professor". He told people that he had experienced the garden and he knew everything. He would offer to show them the garden.

First he gave them a nose guard because the pollen really detracted from the beauty of the garden. Then he gave them a set of blinders to wear, because the loud colors of the flowers detracted from the beauty of the garden. He would then take them by the hand and lead them into the garden. He would then lead them through the garden and allowed them to experience the rose thorns and the thirstles.

Word of the man and the garden started to spread far and wide. People believed that he knew what he was talking about because after all he was the "Garden Experience Professor" People talked about the bleeding fingers and the pain of the experience. Soon everyone started to avoid the garden because according the "Garden Experience Professor" the garden wasn't really about the vivid colors or the wonderful fragrance that lingered in the back of the mind for a lifetime. The garden was a lie that only brought bleeding fingers and pain.

After a while... people forgot where the garden was.... people began to believe it never really existed it must have surely been a lie... the magnificent beauty must be in the mind... or found here or there.... in little portions.... After all.....

JPC are you leading people to the Garden Experience Professor?
:coffee: That makes no sense at all to me.

:wench: -------------------------------- :coffee:
 
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JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

Nickel said:
It's what we educated individuals call a "metaphor". :yay:
:bigwhoop: Metaphor - smetaphor - the post made no sense at all. :whistle:
 
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JPC, Sr.

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The Truth Shall Set Us All Free.

Nickel said:
I understood it perfectly. I think you'll find that you are the only one who didn't.
:popcorn: I surely do understand the english words and how some guy is messing up the garden with his nonsense but I do not see how it has any relevance to the subject of modern biblical scholarly criticism.

Perhaps the post is trying to trivialize a big issue and if that is understanding then maybe I do get it and it is just not relevant. Unless they think the Bible is comparable to a garden then I would say that God expects us all to be doing some gardening.

:popcorn: ------------------------------ :coffee:
 
J

JPC, Sr.

Guest
The Truth Will Set Us All Free.

JPC said:
:eyebrow: Does any one here know how great the Jesus Seminar is??

It is a group that tries to get to the real truth out of the Bible's New Testiment.

Christ did tell us to seek the truth. Here is a link to it at,

The Best Jesus Seminar Website.

:yay: We have Bible scholars and scholarly criticism which disects the scripture to dig the truth out. Many people find it difficult to face the reality that parts of the Bible is wrong and parts are fake, but I do not, and scholars from the Jesus Seminar try to get the truth out of the scriptures and it is very interesting indeed.

:popcorn: One significant point is that back in the 19th century old German scholars first discovered the synoptic problem in the Gospels. The 3 Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke are the 3 synoptic Gospels because they write about the same times and events synoptically. The scholars discovered the Gospel of Mark is the original of all the others. Then came Matthew and Luke which had to use Mark's writings in order to write their versions.

The Synoptic Problem shown just a little down this web page, click here.

Plus there is the missing Q sourse that both Matthew and Luke's Gospels used but Mark did not use. There is a scholar noted at the Jesus Seminar that thinks the Gospel of Matthew is the real Q source that Luke used and it is a strong argument indeed as opposed to a missing Q source.

Mark was accually the apprentice to the appostle Peter and so it is reasoned that the Gospel of Mark is actually the story that Peter told to Mark and then Mark wrote the first Gospel which came from Peter.

:yay: Anybody on here know about scholar research??

We must seek the truth.

:whistle: ------------------ :eyebrow:
Bump...So does anyone even know what it is?
 
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residentofcre

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JPC.... I was trying to use a metaphor to tell you that the Jesus Seminar is just a group of misguided liars who are misleading people....

They are using the name Jesus Seminar for credibility and any Sunday School Teacher can see by reading their publications that they are a bunch of no good slugs....

The fact that you cannot see that is really worrisome to me.... and I am so glad that I do not live in your precinct.... there are too many important issues that depend on character, honor, courage and yes Christian Values to trust you in any leadershop role if you cannot see through their lies....

I wish you hadn't forced me to be so blunt...
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
JPC said:
:bigwhoop: Metaphor - smetaphor - the post made no sense at all. :whistle:
Many of the stories in the Bible are told as parables. This is an example of a parable. If you really did study scripture, as you claim, you could see this.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC said:
Bump...So does anyone even know what it is?
You have been told multiple times by several people including the minsters of one of the churches you attend that you are teaching falsehoods. Stop and repent. You are held accountable for everyone you you lead astray with your lies.
 
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