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JPC said:I figured the Religion Thread was for persons that knew religion
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So why are you here? You don't know anything about the bible.
JPC said:I figured the Religion Thread was for persons that knew religion
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I challenge you to find the references and post them for your "quotes". Also post your "quotes" in context. As far as I can tell, your posts are false teachings from some modern age garbage that you have accepted because it fits your warped sense of right and wrong.JPC said:My post on here have been quoting the Bible. I just did not put the text references in the post. The verses I used are all well known to persons that know the Bible and who might go to church or speak about the scriptures with others. I figured the Religion Thread was for persons that knew religion so I have been writing accordingly.
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mv_princess said:If you were a Priest would you touch little kids?
2ndAmendment said:<p>Thank you.
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<p> <font color="#ff0000"><span class="smallfont">he might be false, but the only reason you think so is b/c he disagrees with you, he could be right you know</span></font>
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He wont because it's true.......SAHRAB said:
But seriously, answer the question
mv_princess said:If you were a Priest would you touch little kids?
Are all these scholars self educated too!??JPC said:So I take it that no one so far knows anything about modern scholar research.
Perhaps some one later will give a post about the subject as I suspect there must be some one other then myself that actually seeks the truth.
I can wait..........
Aren't they all??2ndAmendment said:<p>
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<p><font size="7">Beware. False prophet. </font>
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No.itsbob said:Aren't they all??
1 John 4:1-6
1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
3and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.
4You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.
5They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them.
6We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Matthew 7:15-16 15"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
16"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
Nothing a prophet says will contradict the Bible. But false prophets are foretold in the Bible.1 Corinthians 14:29-33
29Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.
30But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent.
31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;
32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets;
33for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
And the penalty is harsh for false prophets.2 Peter 2:1-3
1But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
3and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Jeremiah 14:15
15"Therefore thus says the LORD concerning the prophets who are prophesying in My name, although it was not I who sent them--yet they keep saying, 'There will be no sword or famine in this land'--by sword and famine those prophets shall meet their end!
Deuteronomy 18:20
20'But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'
I am not recommending anyone put JPC, SR. to death, but I would think he needs to be careful of what he is proclaiming.Deuteronomy 13:1-5
1"If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,
2and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, 'Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,'
3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4"You shall follow the LORD your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him.
5"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has counseled rebellion against the LORD your God who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to seduce you from the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk So you shall purge the evil from among you.
Saw you in church. Did you catch the part where Pastor Jerry said that the person who has been claiming that satan goes to heaven on an Internet forum is wrong and teaching false doctrine and that that person should not claim to be a member of our church.JPC said:Even the Devil gets saved in the end.
JPC said:You are correct but on the Judgement Day, then everyone will believe and be saved. The price is paid in full already.
No, I did not hear any thing like that said.2ndAmendment said:Saw you in church. Did you catch the part where Pastor Jerry said that the person who has been claiming that satan goes to heaven on an Internet forum is wrong and teaching false doctrine and that that person should not claim to be a member of our church.
I am comfortable with my own relationship with God.2ndAmendment said:As Jerry told me, we don't separate them at the door, so you are still welcome. Maybe you will really take the time to listen to the sermons and learn the real Truth instead of the babel you spout.
The churches I go too all have sinners in them so I feel as if I am welcome too as a sinner, and not as a member. I could never go to a Church group that had no sinners.2ndAmendment said:To those that have PMed me saying JPC, Sr goes to the church I go to, that is true on occasion, but since he spouts untruth, he is not accepted as a member. People are cordial to him, but the church leadership knows the truth about him.
Listening to the voices in your head instead of the sermon again.JPC said:No, I did not hear any thing like that said.
JPC said:The churches I go too all have sinners in them so I feel as if I am welcome too as a sinner, and not as a member. I could never go to a Church group that had no sinners.
Amen to that.Toxick said:We're all sinners.
I know my church has at least one sinner - 'cause I'm there. Nobody said that "sinners" are not welcome.
Exactly! I took this to JPC, Sr. in private first, following this:Toxick said:I rather think that the problem lies, not the sin itself - but rather the pointed dismissal of the behavior, the continued lack of effort in correcting it.
It's been pointed out to you many times - by someone who knows of which he speaks - that misrepresenting the word of God is an appalling act before God, and qualifies you as a "false prophet". Yet you continue to ignore this when it's pointed out to you, and you continue to misrepresent scripture to suit yourself, or whatever Shiny-Happy version of the world you live in.
And if a church doesn't embrace you lovingly when you act like this, that doesn't mean that the church is full of jerks.
JPC told me to "Do what you have to do.", so I did and took it to the church leaders. That was the reason for the announcement from the alter. JPC, Sr. just chooses to have selective hearing and reading, too, when things are said or posted he does not agree with.Matthew 18:15-17
15"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
16"But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
17"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
It is true that I did not hear that but I do believe you that it was said. So then the deed is done. I am running for 29B and not running for priest nor Pope nor for minister or Pastor so my politics and my religion are separate subjects. This Religion Thread is for discussing and not for dictating orthodoxy - at least not in my opinion.2ndAmendment said:Amen to that.
Exactly! I took this to JPC, Sr. in private first, following this:JPC told me to "Do what you have to do.", so I did and took it to the church leaders. That was the reason for the announcement from the alter. JPC, Sr. just chooses to have selective hearing and reading, too, when things are said or posted he does not agree with.
You claim to study scripture but you don't know what it says. You go to church, but do not listen. When the written word is shown to you, you deny it. And now you bring your "candidacy" into this.JPC said:It is true that I did not hear that but I do believe you that it was said. So then the deed is done. I am running for 29B and not running for priest nor Pope nor for minister or Pastor so my politics and my religion are separate subjects. This Religion Thread is for discussing and not for dictating orthodoxy - at least not in my opinion.
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Well I have been writing about psychology on another thread but here it goes here too.2ndAmendment said:Listening to the voices in your head instead of the sermon again.