"Modern Sporting Rifles" .....

[edinsomd]

In all seriousness, WTF do you do with these? I've been around guns all my life, Dad is a member of NRA, is a championship shooter. I have shotguns, .22 and 3006 Rifles but i just don't get it.

Honest question, honest answer. It's a light, handy, reliable, accurate within reason rifle well suited for varmint, plinking and target. Some like it for defense. Low recoil and easy to maintain. To call it "high powered" is to laugh. It's modular and can be suited to the owner's needs. It can easily be mounted with all kinds of expensive tacticool goodies, or none at all. .223 is still pretty cheap to shoot. So think of it as between your .22 and 30.06 rifles. Go and shoot one and see. Any shooter on the range will let you fire his/hers AR, just for fun.

 

[nutz]

In all seriousness, WTF do you do with these? I've been around guns all my life, Dad is a member of NRA, is a championship shooter. I have shotguns, .22 and 3006 Rifles but i just don't get it.

WTF ever that you do with your .22 and 30 ought 6 plus some. I can install a forward assist handle, bipod, flashlight, etc.etc. with basically the push of a button. I can do an upper receiver swap in seconds and go from.22 to ..223 to xxx. I can field strip, clean and reassemble the weapon without special tools. I can adjust the sights with the ammo. It was designed and built to be field repairable.

Some history links for you.
http://rdltactical.com/a-little-history-of-the-ar-15-rifle/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/02/sturmgewehr-assault-rifle-developments-prior-1942/

 

[MADPEBS1]

WTF ever that you do with your .22 and 30 ought 6 plus some. I can install a forward assist handle, bipod, flashlight, etc.etc. with basically the push of a button. I can do an upper receiver swap in seconds and go from.22 to ..223 to xxx. I can field strip, clean and reassemble the weapon without special tools. I can adjust the sights with the ammo. It was designed and built to be field repairable.

Some history links for you.
http://rdltactical.com/a-little-history-of-the-ar-15-rifle/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/02/sturmgewehr-assault-rifle-developments-prior-1942/

I hunt with them, I shot squirrel and deer with 06 where able or use the shotgun in MD. I guess I get it, as I said I OWN guns and have been around guns all my life, some of my best memories are Dad going to shooting matches and me being set loose to go fishing on the gun clubs ponds. Going to Camp Perry for Nationals and Dad watching me come back from the pellet pistol range with a target full on X's. Won’t deny you your right, but in home protection I don’t see them being best suited to blast some phucker that’s come into your house and missing him and that high velocity bullet going and hurting someone you love…. In hunting you are usually pretty careful with your weapon, vise war where you would need to field repair the gun, so who cares about that. Live to hunt another day.

 

[Gilligan]

You need a .50 Beowulf for zombie dinosaurs. .

Bingo. Exactly why I bought one.

 

[Gilligan]

I hunt with them, I shot squirrel and deer with 06 where able or use the shotgun in MD.

The AR 5.56/.223 round is very weak compared with nearly all other center-fire rifles. Certainly pales in comparison to the .30-06. Great round for target shooting and general range fun.

A rifle has always been a poorer choice for a home protection firearm. Any rifle...including the AR.

 

[PrchJrkr]

Bingo. Exactly why I bought one.

You're not all there.

Just sayin'...

 

[Gilligan]

You're not all there.

Just sayin'...

So I guess yr going to try and convince me there won't be any zombie dinosaurs. Well just maybe they will be terrorizing people somewhere else only because they know I have a .50 Beowulf AR. Betcha didn't think of that...

 

[Vince]

The AR 5.56/.223 round is very weak compared with nearly all other center-fire rifles. Certainly pales in comparison to the .30-06. Great round for target shooting and general range fun.

A rifle has always been a poorer choice for a home protection firearm. Any rifle...including the AR.

Correct. I have all kinds of rifles, all kinds of calibers and in the house, for home defense, the rifle is not my weapon of choice. It's too hard to move around in the house with a rifle with multiple targets. A pistol is a much better choice for "in the home" protection. 9mm, .44 or .45 would all be good choices. If a revolver is your choice, I would prefer a double action revolver. As far as the AR goes, I like it. Great for target shooting and .223 is cheap to shoot. I like guns. They are my hobby the same as any other hobby. I also like woodworking....another hobby.

 

[PsyOps]

Plink, Protection, rob a bank? what?

I'd rather have my 12gague with 00buck and slugger barrel for home protection

I would still like to know the premise of your question "WTF do you do with these"? Are you saying there's no reason to own 'assault' rifles?

 

[Larry Gude]

I would still like to know the premise of your question "WTF do you do with these"? Are you saying there's no reason to own 'assault' rifles?

I take it to mean the AR platform, in 5.56, is pretty much a solution in search of a problem. For most people it's a pretty poor choice for home protection and is useless as a hunter or nearly so. To me that is why the labeling applies, 'modern sporting rifle: that's it's best, by far, use.

 

[Larry Gude]

So I guess yr going to try and convince me there won't be any zombie dinosaurs. Well just maybe they will be terrorizing people somewhere else only because they know I have a .50 Beowulf AR. Betcha didn't think of that...

I thought of that.

 

[GURPS]

I take it to mean the AR platform, in 5.56, is pretty much a solution in search of a problem.

well you can carry more ammo, at the common engagement ranges these days, it makes sense

Personally I prefer a 308 or .30-06

 

[Gilligan]

As far as the AR goes, I like it. Great for target shooting and .223 is cheap to shoot. I like guns. They are my hobby the same as any other hobby. I also like woodworking....another hobby.

Pretty much sums it for me too. I don't "need" most of the firearms I own and I don't "need" most of the trucks, ATV,s boats, cars or motorcycles I own either. That's never the point.

 

[Larry Gude]

well you can carry more ammo, at the common engagement ranges these days, it makes sense

Personally I prefer a 308 or .30-06

You're talking military application. I specifically noted average joe.

 

[Gilligan]

You're talking military application. I specifically noted average joe.

Personally, I agree with ya on that. I never use a mag over about 50 round capacity. Get's too darned heavy, for one thing...

 

[stgislander]

I take it to mean the AR platform, in 5.56, is pretty much a solution in search of a problem. For most people it's a pretty poor choice for home protection and is useless as a hunter or nearly so. To me that is why the labeling applies, 'modern sporting rifle: that's it's best, by far, use.

If I remember correctly, that's how they advertised the MAK-90 I purchased at Rose's in Waldorf back in the early-90's... a sporting rifle. It even came with a thumb hole "Sporter" stock. (Probably the most uncomfortable stock ever devised.)

 

[Larry Gude]

Personally, I agree with ya on that. I never use a mag over about 50 round capacity. Get's too darned heavy, for one thing...

Anything over 20 rounds should be in a belt.

 

[nhboy]

Pretty much sums it for me too. I don't "need" most of the firearms I own and I don't "need" most of the trucks, ATV,s boats, cars or motorcycles I own either.

lol! Good old Gilligan, never misses a chance to tell you about all the "stuff" he has!

 

[GURPS]

Personally, I agree with ya on that. I never use a mag over about 50 round capacity. Get's too darned heavy, for one thing...

hmmm


I have a 75 for my AK ... it was nice
but then I was not humping through the Bush ....

an M-60 was bad enough in the 80's

 

[Gilligan]

lol! Good old Gilligan, never misses a chance to tell you about all the "stuff" he has!

Your jealousy is showing, poor impoverished kid. Evidence of your utter failure at life always seem to get you a bit uptight.

Tell us about all the ""stuff" you have that you don't "need".