Mommy Guilt

MMDad

Lem Putt
(He still has a diaper on so I am not sure it is even doing anything - but it shocks the hell out of him.) :jet:

It doesn't have to hurt. It's the psychological effect. Merely the threat of a spanking was enough for my daughter. My son was more difficult.

People who beat their kids have made too many people scared to spank. There is a huge difference. I never spanked when I was angry. If I couldn't be calm, I didn't do it. That's when it gets out of control.

I actually took a parenting class from UMUC to fill a degree requirement. The best thing I learned is that you should never punish a child. Instead, discipline the child. Focus your energy not on what they did, but on how to stop them from doing it in the future.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
they do out grow this behavior .... [crying when mommy leaves - well mine never did this, Mom was a stay at home .... but getting dropped off for Kindergarten]


my 8 yr old definitely has the 'mommy deafness'

but dad comes along with his LOUD Booming Voice, that usually settles matters ...

Wife: Megan do x

2 min later

Wife: MEGAN GO DO X ....

......

DAD From the Other Room: ONE ..... [poof the child is gone, doing whatever her mother told her to do] never have I had to say TWO ...

because she knows if I get to 3 it is ON ... she is losing toys, or privileges or both ...

I do Not have to lay a hand on her .....
 

ZARA

Registered User
:cds: WR... he will be normal and just fine :crazy:


hahahaha... joking. He'll be perfect, just like my little devil spawn

LMAO I call mine "My Demon Spawn"

My son was a HOLY TERROR when he was little. And I do not say that lightly. I spent many nights crying because I did not know how to get his little butt under control and I CANNOT hit him. I did A LOT of Praying. Then I started getting creative and learning to be firm. The advice to mimic him was AMAZING and worked every time.

Children act on impulse. They are incapable of reason. They are little animals and react, thought does not exist. If you ask them a question and they respond, “I don’t know,” they are telling the truth. They don’t know, they just do whatever pops into their little brains. Reasoning is a taught skill.

Time Out. Works but requires firmness. And only works if they are older than 2 IMO. Repetition, Repetition, Repetition, Repetition.

I was teaching my best friend how to use time out with my God Daughter last summer. She is a spoiled rotten lil chit and throws more tantrums, doesn’t mind, etc and I will not tolerate it, especially in my home.

Situation:
My best friend spent 10 years trying to have a baby without success. So Gabby is SPOILED to such an extreme that my best friend has a very hard time telling her no. I love my God Daughter but I have no problem telling her no. Gabby (3 yrs old) would ask for something, we would tell her no, she would get pissed and SCREAM, Stomp her feet etc.

I am not going to have an argument with a 3 year old. I am the adult, she is not, and she will do what she is told, or she will sit in a chair until she learns to mind. Period. There isn’t any discussion. (The following I learned when my son was 3)

My response to Gabby’s actions:

I ignore her as she screams, walking around her to the table and grab a chair. I gently place the chair facing the wall in the kitchen so that there is absolutely nothing for her to be entertained by.

I then gently picked Gabby up and placed her in the chair facing the wall, and said FIRMLY, “You can get up when you stop crying.”
She would cry louder and get up. (Repetition)
I pick her up again and placed her in the chair facing the wall, and said FIRMLY, “You can get up when you stop crying.”
She would cry louder and get up. (Repetition)
I pick her up again and placed her in the chair facing the wall, and said FIRMLY, “You can get up when you stop crying.”

This time she stayed and said to me, “Ok, I stop crying.” I asked her, “Are you sure? Are you done crying?” She replies, “Yes, I done. I sorry.” Then I let her up.

With my son I would pick him up and place him in his room and say, “If you want to scream, you scream in your room. You may come out when you are done.” Repetition, Repetition, Repetition, Repetition.

Every time he would throw a fit, I would pick him up and carry him to his room and tell him, “This is your room. If you want to scream, you scream in your room. You may come out when you are done.”

It finally got to the point that whenever he got pissed and wanted to throw a tantrum, he would RUN to his room, SLAM the door, scream and then after five minutes or so he would come out and announce, “Ok, I done,” and go back to playing as if nothing ever happened.

My thoughts are that I gave him a safe place to express his feelings without disturbing the house. He learned to put himself in time out and saved me from being the bad guy all the time.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
The mommy guilt is strong this morning. Usually my toddler doesn't see me leave to work, daddy gets up a bit later and he gets the kids ready and takes them to daycare. Toddler was up and perky this morning and was following me around as I got things ready to go. When it came time for me to leave he ran over to the door and started saying "Outside!"

I tried to explain that no, mommy has to go to work and that daddy will take him to school. I had to close the front door in my toddler's sobbing face :bawl:

He's probably totally fine by now, but I still feel like a huge jerk.

I've got this exact same problem with a 70 lb malamute.
 

pelers

Active Member
With my son I would pick him up and place him in his room and say, “If you want to scream, you scream in your room. You may come out when you are done.” Repetition, Repetition, Repetition, Repetition.

Every time he would throw a fit, I would pick him up and carry him to his room and tell him, “This is your room. If you want to scream, you scream in your room. You may come out when you are done.”

It finally got to the point that whenever he got pissed and wanted to throw a tantrum, he would RUN to his room, SLAM the door, scream and then after five minutes or so he would come out and announce, “Ok, I done,” and go back to playing as if nothing ever happened.

My thoughts are that I gave him a safe place to express his feelings without disturbing the house. He learned to put himself in time out and saved me from being the bad guy all the time.

I'll have to try putting it this way to him. Usually I haul him off to his bedroom, "You're in time out for doing xxx. You can come out when you're ready to be nice and stop doing xxx."
 

KDENISE977

New Member
I'll have to try putting it this way to him. Usually I haul him off to his bedroom, "You're in time out for doing xxx. You can come out when you're ready to be nice and stop doing xxx."

I will try this for sure when my son can make it up stairs safely on his own. It's a good idea for my husband too, honey, go to the room till you agree with me.:buddies:
 

ZARA

Registered User
After raising three to adulthood I have come to the understanding that children are little animals, much like cats and dogs, and they do whatever comes to mind, not thinking of the consequences (children under 5 mostly). Yes, I took the time to explain what they did wrong, but when the tantrums begin, they are not thinking, they are reacting and talking to them doesn’t usually work.

So to save myself great stress, I KISS: Kept It Simple Stupid.

Once the tantrum begins, they are now in trouble for TWO things and that is more than their little brains can understand. So focus on the tantrum and prepare yourself to repeat “No” more times than you can count. They will repeat the offense until they are able to anticipate your words and WILL repeat them back to you verbatim before you have a chance to take a breath.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
2 yo's throw tantrums because they get frustrated easily. They cannot communicate fully everything they want to and they have not yet developed the ability to control their impulses. They are little tiny animals. It isnt because they are bad, its because they are perfectly normal.


What I am currently working on with my daughter the most is learning patience, delayed gratification and impulse control. I have a key word/phrase I use "monster you're going to have to be PATIENT" She repeats the word. She doesn't know the dictionary definition, of course, but shes starting to grasp that when I tell her to be PATIENT, what she wants is coming, just not that exact moment. She still frequently whines for things, being two :killingme but repeating this word and phrase when I am, say, filling her milk glass or cleaning her grapes or some such has worked so far. That, coupled with not giving her what she wants until she has politely asked for it, even if I have to prompt her, has made a difference. My daughter is insanely sassy, but says please and thank you predictably and reliably with very little prompting. (she's even started saying "no THANK YOU momma" when shes mad at me for something :killingme ive done that not just because it is polite, but because it creates a routine for getting what she wants in a calm manner. Ive also had so decent success with telling her the schedule of events that will lead to what she wants , ie "we will have a snack once we go inside the house, take off our shoes, and wash our hands" so she knows whats coming.

now the only real fits she throws are because she wants something she is not allowed to have. in that case a simple NO, removing the item, and giving her a suggesstion for something else she may want instead keeps the tantrums at a minimum. I don't believe in mocking a child's tantrums, though I know many have had success with that..I just think it isn't a very good message, which is why when monster hits, or looks like she wants to, I try my best to avoid hitting her in response. thats confusing for a tiny brain. Instead, I generally tell her no very firmly and make her sit in a corner for a minute or two and then make her apologize. its decreased it quite a bit.


monsters biggest thing is the sheer attitude. Are girls BORN with it? The girl rolls her eyes at me. at TWO. :killingme
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

Well-Known Member
We do the corner mostly...then smack hands... Lately the only thing that gets his attention is a spanking... (He still has a diaper on so I am not sure it is even doing anything - but it shocks the hell out of him.) :jet:

Ya gotta watch the diaper swatting. You might wind up with a clean-up.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
ask a liberal what to do
then assume the opposite will be correct and proceed.
 

Sweet 16

^^8^^
One day (MANY MANY years ago) I was discussing this very situation with a friend of mine. She is a foster mom and has 12 children. Four are hers and 8 are adopted. The 8 that she adopted are all related.

I cannot bring myself to hit my child and she is the same way. I told her I did not know how to handle the crazy tantrums and I was at a loss for what to do. She smiled at me and said, "Mimic him." :confused: I asked her, "You want me to mimic him? Like, throw myself on the floor and fuss the way he does?" She grins at me and says, "Exactly."

I figured I had nothing to lose, so I tried it. My son was so confused by MY actions that he stopped and just stared at me. *Shrugs* Just an Idea.

Nothing wrong with spanking IMO. It is not intended to injure or maim, only to get their attention that their behavior is unacceptable and assert your authority as parents over them, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, despite what psychologists and government nannies tell us. The problem with society today is kids who do not respect authority (notice I didn't say 'fear') because parents want to be their buddy and are too gutless to discipline them. And these disrespectful kids grow up into criminals and a-holes who feel the world owes them everything.

This is still funny though :lol:
 

KDENISE977

New Member
I'm just relieved to know I'm not the only one and that it's not that uncommon for the tantrums/kicking/screaming events. My mind starts to get carried away and I'm all "oh god, what if he needs to see a shrink, what if he has anger issues, what if he gets kicked out of school/daycare, what if he's a bully, what if _________ (insert whatever = crazy child illness makes them have fits)

I wasn't a bad kid at all according to my mother. MY HUSBAND however, his neighborhood took up collections every summer to SEND him away to camp because he was so bad/mischevous.
 

ZARA

Registered User
Nothing wrong with spanking IMO. It is not intended to injure or maim, only to get their attention that their behavior is unacceptable and assert your authority as parents over them, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, despite what psychologists and government nannies tell us. The problem with society today is kids who do not respect authority (notice I didn't say 'fear') because parents want to be their buddy and are too gutless to discipline them. And these disrespectful kids grow up into criminals and a-holes who feel the world owes them everything.

This is still funny though :lol:

I completely agree with you. But I have personal reasons of why I can't hit my kids. However, I got creative in discipline and worked around it.

My youngest was pre-teen and he did something to piss me off. I can’t remember the details but I was fed up so I stripped his room of EVERYTHING except, his mattress, pillows, sheets, and blankets. I TOOK HIS DOOR AND BEDFRAME I was so pissed. Imagine his surprise!!

Then I made him earn everything back one item at a time.

I never had to ground him again. All I ever had to do was threaten him after that and he straightened right up.
 
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