More on an old discusion with Vrai

PsyOps

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Vrai, remember our long discussion about the girl at the bus stop who hurt her leg? Well, here is another story that supports my thinking about derelict parents.

Child Struck, Killed In Northeast

Police have released the name of a six-year-old boy who died after being hit by a car in Northeast D.C.

J'lin Tyler was a student at Bunker Hill Elementary School. He was hit by an SUV while crossing a street near the intersection of Emerson Street and Sargent Road in Northeast around 8:30 a.m. He died at Children's Hospital.

The driver stayed at the scene. Police say they need to investigate further before deciding whether to file charges.

D.C. Public Schools officials have sent grief counselors to Bunker Hill to help students and staff deal with the J'lin's death.

I listened to this story on the local news last night and not one mention as to where this kid's parent was. Why is a 6 year old kid walking around the streets without a parent? The news implies they want to blame the driver. It was reported that the driver may have been using a cell phone when the incident happened. But it's my contention that this would not have happened if the child's parent was with her.

What say you Vrai? How many more of these do we have to hear about until parents realize they have to take responsibility? Or are we just going to continue to blame someone else for our failures as parents?
 

nomoney

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crossing a busy street at age 6 and waiting at a bus stop on your same street at 11 are two totally different things if you ask me.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
nomoney said:
crossing a busy street at age 6 and waiting at a bus stop on your same street at 11 are two totally different things if you ask me.
It falls in the lines of parental responsibility. I was trying to point out how parents have become derelict in some many instances and eventually it would result in tragedy. It has.
 

donbarzini

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PsyOps said:
Vrai, remember our long discussion about the girl at the bus stop who hurt her leg? Well, here is another story that supports my thinking about derelict parents.

Child Struck, Killed In Northeast



I listened to this story on the local news last night and not one mention as to where this kid's parent was. Why is a 6 year old kid walking around the streets without a parent? The news implies they want to blame the driver. It was reported that the driver may have been using a cell phone when the incident happened. But it's my contention that this would not have happened if the child's parent was with her.




What say you Vrai? How many more of these do we have to hear about until parents realize they have to take responsibility? Or are we just going to continue to blame someone else for our failures as parents?


The kid was walking across the street to his school. He was at a 4 way stop intersection IN A CROSSWALK. (I know I'm opening myself up with this next one)At the age of 6 I was walking to the "corner" store in Boston. I had to cross two streets to get there. This little kid did everything properly. The driver was NOT PAYING ATTENTION. This is NOT a case of parental neglect. Not even close.
 

SouthernMDChick

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When I heard this story on Channel 4 News, I thought I heard it reported that the six year old started crossing the street, but, turned back to kiss his grandmother good bye...
 

vraiblonde

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PsyOps said:
What say you Vrai?
Nomoney beat me to it. Adults get hit by cars all the time - is that *their* parents' fault?

When I was 6, I was allowed to walk to a neighbor friend's house unsupervised. I allowed my kids to do the same. All of us are still alive to tell the tale. Accidents happen, people drive recklessly, kids fall off their bikes. The only perfectly safe activity is sitting in your house watching TV, but with that there's the danger that you'll turn into a fat idiot. Which, in my opinion, there are already enough of.
 

vraiblonde

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PsyOps said:
It falls in the lines of parental responsibility. I was trying to point out how parents have become derelict in some many instances and eventually it would result in tragedy. It has.
Do you keep your children by your side at all times, and NEVER let them out of your sight?
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
vraiblonde said:
Nomoney beat me to it. Adults get hit by cars all the time - is that *their* parents' fault?

When I was 6, I was allowed to walk to a neighbor friend's house unsupervised. I allowed my kids to do the same. All of us are still alive to tell the tale. Accidents happen, people drive recklessly, kids fall off their bikes. The only perfectly safe activity is sitting in your house watching TV, but with that there's the danger that you'll turn into a fat idiot. Which, in my opinion, there are already enough of.
:yeahthat:

Reckless drivers will be reckless drivers. I was allowed out by the street by myself and I'm still alive.
 

vraiblonde

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I don't blame parents for accidents. I blame them for willful neglect. Bebe mama has a boyfriend who beats the #### out of her children and eventually kills one of them - THAT is her fault. Letting your middle-schooler go to the bus stop by themselves isn't neglect, and letting a 6 year old cross the street isn't neglect.
 

vraiblonde

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Bustem' Down said:
Reckless drivers will be reckless drivers.
If the cops would get out of the malls and pull more motorists over, maybe things like this wouldn't happen. :jet:
 

citysherry

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SouthernMDChick said:
When I heard this story on Channel 4 News, I thought I heard it reported that the six year old started crossing the street, but, turned back to kiss his grandmother good bye...

Yes, that is what happened - also, he was walking with his two older cousins who were slightly ahead of him because he went back to kiss grandma goodbye. I know this area very well because my family use to live in this neighborhood. It is very residential but unfortunately, over the past couple years, Sargent road has become a major commuter road into downtown DC. This little boy was in the crosswalk which makes this a definite case of a commuter not paying full time and attention - its been reported by witnesses that she was on her cell phone. Sad.
 
M

Mousebaby

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My daughter is 10, I have only just started letting her go two houses down to her friends house. My 7 yr. old, there is NO WAY on this earth he is going anywhere without his older brother or an adult with him. Mostly because I don't trust people not to kidnap my kids and rape and kill them. Even with my 14 yr. old he is to call me as soon as he gets to a friends house and he is to call me before he leaves there to come home. I also do not allow him to go any further then the next street over. Maybe I'm over cautious, but I would rather be that way then sorry I wasn't cautious enough. Especially since I know there is a child sex offender just two streets away from me. Yes, I pretty much do watch every move my kids make. Does that make me a bad parent, I don't think so. JMHO
 

donbarzini

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vraiblonde said:
If the cops would get out of the malls and pull more motorists over, maybe things like this wouldn't happen. :jet:


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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to vraiblonde again.

:killingme :killingme Oh NO you DIDN'T!!!
 

TexasPride77

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citysherry said:
This little boy was in the crosswalk which makes this a definite case of a commuter not paying full time and attention - its been reported by witnesses that she was on her cell phone. Sad.

Its cases like this that make me favor legislation that prevents people from using their cell phones while driving.

Before cell phones - we had to wait to check the messages on the machine when we got home. Too bad cell phones cannot be fixed so that they will automatically not ring / dial out if your car motor is running. This would force people to have to leave messages on voice mail AND force people to pull over when every they want to place a call to someone.

What do yall think?
 
TexasPride77 said:
Its cases like this that make me favor legislation that prevents people from using their cell phones while driving.

Before cell phones - we had to wait to check the messages on the machine when we got home. Too bad cell phones cannot be fixed so that they will automatically not ring / dial out if your car motor is running. This would force people to have to leave messages on voice mail AND force people to pull over when every they want to place a call to someone.

What do yall think?
There is already a law prohibiting cell phone use while driving in D.C.
 

bresamil

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I was recently in a car that had a systems for a bluetooth phone. Hands free phone usage. I think it was standard in the car (2007 Chrysler Sebring). I read a few other car ads listing it as a feature as well. I wonder if its illegal to use it in DC. :confused:
 

donbarzini

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bresamil said:
I was recently in a car that had a systems for a bluetooth phone. Hands free phone usage. I think it was standard in the car (2007 Chrysler Sebring). I read a few other car ads listing it as a feature as well. I wonder if its illegal to use it in DC. :confused:

No. It has to be a "hands-free" system, otherwise it'll cost you $100.00
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
donbarzini said:
The kid was walking across the street to his school. He was at a 4 way stop intersection IN A CROSSWALK. (I know I'm opening myself up with this next one)At the age of 6 I was walking to the "corner" store in Boston. I had to cross two streets to get there. This little kid did everything properly. The driver was NOT PAYING ATTENTION. This is NOT a case of parental neglect. Not even close.
Hmmm... The report doesn't say one thing about whether the kid was doing things properly. And I have no doubt the driver wasn't paying attention. But it's still my contention that if that kid's parent had been there this would not have happened.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
PsyOps said:
Hmmm... The report doesn't say one thing about whether the kid was doing things properly. And I have no doubt the driver wasn't paying attention. But it's still my contention that if that kid's parent had been there this would not have happened.
More than likely, if the kid's parent had been there where would have been two bodies.
 
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