Motorcycle Safety Training Message

edinsomd

edinsomd

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Got it today, read it and weep.
Ed

Subject: 112028Z JUL 08 R MOTORCYCLE SAFETY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL NAVY PERSONNEL COMNAVSAFECEN NORFOLK VA
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R 112028Z JUL 08 MOTORCYCLE SAFETY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL NAVY PERSONNEL

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CN=AL ALSAFE(UC)

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SUBJ: MOTORCYCLE SAFETY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL NAVY PERSONNEL UNCLASSIFIED// ALSAFE 040/08 MSGID/GENADMIN/COMNAVSAFECEN/JUL//
SUBJ/MOTORCYCLE SAFETY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL NAVY /PERSONNEL// REF/A/DESC:DOC/CNO/25JUN2008// AMPN/REF A IS OPNAVINST 5100.12H CHG 1 DTD 25 JUN 08// GENTEXT/REMARKS/ /

1. AS WE EMBARK ON THIS JOURNEY TO DEVELOP THE RIDING SKILLS AND COMPETENCIES OF OUR MOTORCYCLE RIDERS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE ARE SYNCHRONIZED IN OUR GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS. THROUGH MY INTERACTION WITH FLEET UNITS, I HAVE FIELDED SOME VERY GOOD

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QUESTIONS ON TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOTORCYCLE TRAINING. THIS ALSAFE SEEKS TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND ANSWER SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
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2. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:
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FAQ 1. WHAT ARE THE NEW MOTORCYCLE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS?
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ANSWER. IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE OF OUR MOTORCYCLISTS, REF A ESTABLISHED THE REQUIREMENT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE BASIC RIDER COURSE (BRC), ALL SPORTBIKE RIDERS MUST NOW COMPLETE THE RECENTLY DEVELOPED MILITARY SPORTBIKE RIDERS COURSE (MSRC) AND ALL RIDERS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT TYPE OF BIKE THEY RIDE, MUST NOW COMPLETE RECERTIFICATION TRAINING EVERY THREE YEARS. FOR CRUISER/STANDARD RIDERS THIS RECERTIFICATION TRAINING IS THE EXPERIENCED RIDER COURSE (ERC).
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FAQ 2. WHAT ARE THE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING PRIORITIES?
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ANSWER. TO ENSURE OUR TRAINING EFFORTS TARGET OUR HIGHEST RISK

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MOTORCYCLISTS UNTIL THE INITIAL INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR TRAINING IS MET AND OUR PROGRAMS CAN BEGIN SUSTAINMENT TRAINING, THE FOLLOWING TRAINING PRIORITIES SHOULD BE FOLLOWED:
A. TRAINING PRIORITY 1 - BRC FOR ALL FIRST TIME RIDERS.
B. TRAINING PRIORITY 2 - MSRC FOR FIRST YEAR SPORTBIKE RIDERS.
C. TRAINING PRIORITY 3 - MSRC FOR ALL OTHER SPORTBIKE RIDERS.
D. TRAINING PRIORITY 4 - ERC FOR STANDARD/CRUISER RIDERS.
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FAQ 3. I PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED MOTORCYCLE TRAINING AND HAVE A BASE DECAL. DO I HAVE TO COMPLETE REFRESHER TRAINING NOW IN ORDER TO RIDE ON BASE?
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ANSWER. IF YOU ARE A SPORTBIKE RIDER YOU MUST COMPLETE THE MSRC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE RIDING ON BASE.
STANDARD/CRUISER RIDERS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED THE BRC ARE GRANTED A WAIVER OF THE THREE-YEAR RECERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT CONTAINED IN REF A. THIS WAIVER IS EFFECTIVE UNTIL 30 SEPTEMBER 2009 AND IS INTENDED TO ALLOW MAXIMUM COURSE SCHEDULING AND RANGE USE FOR THE MSRC AND BRC.
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FAQ 4. WHAT IS CLASSIFIED AS A SPORTBIKE?
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ANSWER. SPORTBIKES ARE DEFINED AS PERFORMANCE MOTORCYCLES WITH THE RIDER IN A FORWARD LEANING POSITION AND FEET AFT OF HIS CENTER OF GRAVITY. SPORTBIKES INCLUDE "SPORT", "SUPERSPORT", AND "SPORT TOURING" MOTORCYCLES. MANUFACTURER WEB SITES CAN BE UTILIZED TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION.
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FAQ 5. HOW DO I SIGN UP FOR TRAINING?
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ANSWER. BASE, STATION AND REGIONAL SAFETY OFFICES PROVIDE THE TRAINING AND SHOULD BE CONTACTED TO SCHEDULE A COURSE. TO HELP INDIVIDUALS FIND MOTORCYCLE TRAINING, THE NAVAL SAFETY CENTER HAS POSTED THE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING POINTS OF CONTACT ON ITS HOME
PAGE: Naval Safety Center Home Page.
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FAQ 6. WHO HAS TO TAKE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING?
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ANSWER. REF A TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE MANDATORY FOR ALL MILITARY RIDERS WHETHER THEY RIDE ON OR OFF BASE AND FOR ALL DOD

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CIVILIAN PERSONNEL WHO RIDE ON BASE OR WHILE ON DUTY. THESE REQUIREMENTS DO NOT APPLY TO RETIREES AND DEPENDENTS. TRAINING WILL BE PROVIDED TO MILITARY AND DOD CIVILIAN PERSONNEL FREE OF CHARGE. RETIREES AND DEPENDENTS MAY BE PROVIDED TRAINING ON A SPACE AVAILABLE BASIS.
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FAQ 7. HOW MANY RIDERS ARE THERE THAT MUST BE TRAINED?
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ANSWER. OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO ALL OF OUR MOTORCYCLISTS, CONCENTRATING INITIALLY ON OUR SPORTBIKE RIDERS.
TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL WE NEED TO TRAIN 3,500 FIRST-YEAR SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 31 AUGUST AND ALL 8223 SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 1 OCTOBER.
THIS GOAL CAN ONLY BE REACHED IF COMMANDERS, COMMANDING OFFICERS AND OFFICERS-IN-CHARGE IDENTIFY ALL MOTORCYCLISTS IN THEIR COMMANDS AND ENSURE THEY COMPLETE TRAINING.
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FAQ 8. DOES THIS ALSAFE APPLY TO MARINE CORPS PERSONNEL?
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ANSWER. GUIDANCE CONTAINED IN THIS ALSAFE APPLIES ONLY TO NAVY PERSONNEL. MARINE CORPS PERSONNEL SHOULD FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE

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glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
WHO HAS TO TAKE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING?
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ANSWER.

REF A TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE MANDATORY FOR ALL MILITARY RIDERS WHETHER THEY RIDE ON OR OFF BASE AND FOR ALL DOD CIVILIAN PERSONNEL WHO RIDE ON BASE OR WHILE ON DUTY.

THESE REQUIREMENTS DO NOT APPLY TO RETIREES AND DEPENDENTS.
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Well, Ed, seems pretty clear to me. Looks like my bike gets covered under my retired identity, since contractors are not mentioned. :evil:
 
Michael Delaney

Michael Delaney

Porsche 917K
What?
Every three years. Heck, isn't it a one year waiting list to get in that class as is. I don't see how they will manage this.
 
GWguy

GWguy

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It's just not worth the hassle to me. I don't need to take my bike on base if I have to go thru this.
 
GWguy

GWguy

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aps45819 said:
That's the idea
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I figured. Make it tough enough to deter people and the problem goes away. And I'm sure the local commanders are thrilled about having to enforce it to their subordinates. One more thing they have to track.
 
desertrat

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Vince said:
I thought they were doing these classes on base? :confused:
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They still are.

I don't seem to be covered in two ways by this instruction.

#1 D. ERC FOR STANDARD/CRUISER RIDERS.

I assume this is the advanced class, they don't talk about having to repeat if you have had that one.

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FAQ 3. I PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED MOTORCYCLE TRAINING AND HAVE A BASE DECAL. DO I HAVE TO COMPLETE REFRESHER TRAINING NOW IN ORDER TO RIDE ON BASE? STANDARD/CRUISER RIDERS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED THE BRC ARE GRANTED A WAIVER OF THE THREE-YEAR RECERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT CONTAINED IN REF A. THIS WAIVER IS EFFECTIVE UNTIL 30 SEPTEMBER 2009 AND IS INTENDED TO ALLOW MAXIMUM COURSE SCHEDULING AND RANGE USE FOR THE MSRC AND BRC.
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#2 They don't even dicuss contractors.
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itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL WE NEED TO TRAIN 3,500 FIRST-YEAR SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 31 AUGUST AND ALL 8223 SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 1 OCTOBER.


Scarey that they would know EXACT numbers like this.

A little Orwellian.

AF you don't even have to register your vehicle anymore, and the initial reasoning for registering your vehicle (SECURITY) is kind of moot if they are going to stop EVERY vehicle and look at an ID.

HUGE waste of time and money.
 
GWguy

GWguy

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itsbob said:
TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL WE NEED TO TRAIN 3,500 FIRST-YEAR SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 31 AUGUST AND ALL 8223 SPORTBIKE RIDERS BY 1 OCTOBER.


Scarey that they would know EXACT numbers like this.

A little Orwellian.

AF you don't even have to register your vehicle anymore, and the initial reasoning for registering your vehicle (SECURITY) is kind of moot if they are going to stop EVERY vehicle and look at an ID.

HUGE waste of time and money.
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Their goal is to significantly reduce the number of accidents and fatalities. If they can keep them off-base with red tape, all the better for them. In the meantime, they take themselves partially off the hook by providing and mandating the training.
 
desertrat

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GWguy said:
Their goal is to significantly reduce the number of accidents and fatalities. If they can keep them off-base with red tape, all the better for them. In the meantime, they take themselves partially off the hook by providing and mandating the training.
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I wonder how many accidents/fatalities occur on base?
 
edinsomd

edinsomd

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glhs837 said:
Well, Ed, seems pretty clear to me. Looks like my bike gets covered under my retired identity, since contractors are not mentioned. :evil:
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Lucky you, I can play the retired card too, but I'm a blue badge. Hmmmm, don't ask, don't tell just took on a whole new meaning! :lmao:
Ed
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Yeah, every time I see the stuff the civil servants I work for go through just to arrange travel, dealing with mandatory training requirements, this new eval system, I'm a happy contractor. :yahoo:
 
ylexot

ylexot

Super Genius
Did contractors (and retirees) have to take the course to get stickers for their motorcycles previously? If so, I'm willing to bet that you'll be taking the course...
 
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