Muslim Evangelicals Interrupt Masses

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Chuckt

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I wonder if any of them were ChuckT

Nope

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA – The group in the video is made up of former Muslims who converted to Christianity, KTNV reports. “Repent, and turn to Jesus Christ. Pope is a Satan!” a man says in the video.

Parishioners are terrified after protesters have disturbed Mass at several Catholic churches across the valley.

The group, Koosha Las Vegas, includes members who clearly identify themselves as former Muslims turned Christians. They’ve been entering churches during services, shouting at Catholics that they need to repent now or else, and filming the acts and posting them on the Internet.

http://www.missopen.com/video/video...upting-catholic-church-services-in-las-vegas/

I don't know which church they go to but maybe you wish to blame Evangelicals without offering proof.
 
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TheLibertonian

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It's often been said that a converted believers faith can burn much hotter then those who come in more slowly.

Also, they're not Muslims. They're evangelical christians.
 

GURPS

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It's often been said that a converted believers faith can burn much hotter then those who come in more slowly.

Also, they're not Muslims. They're evangelical christians.



yes, Christian Converts should be locked in a place for a couple of yrs so they can 'temper' their enthusiasm

find that quiet place to decern if they should speak about their faith or not - if you are paying attention the Spirit will prompt you
 

b23hqb

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These new converts are just acting out the way their ingrained former-muslim DNA was programmed - go nuts against anybody that does not believe the way they do. They should calm down soon enough.

I would believe that the vast majority of Christians, including everybody I know, would never even consider such an inappropriate way to convey the message.

Obama will just say, if he says anything at all, that these poor lost souls were just radicalized by the infidel.
 
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Chuckt

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yes, Christian Converts should be locked in a place for a couple of yrs so they can 'temper' their enthusiasm

find that quiet place to decern if they should speak about their faith or not - if you are paying attention the Spirit will prompt you


Jesus didn't lock up Peter and Peter cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest (John 18:10).
God didn't lock up David who was a bloody man of war and a man after His own heart.
The Spirit "fell" upon Samson and he did heroic and mighty things in the name of the Lord.
Elijah killed the prophets of Baal (1 Kings 18).
Even though you probably think of "us verses them", leaders in other countries are ordained of God (Romans 13:3) and "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil."

Daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

God gives power to whomsoever he will and setteth up worldly kingdoms and gives it sometimes to the basest of men.

The word "basest" of men is interesting. It means lowliness. Who would be low and would we detest them?

http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H8215&t=KJV

There are also a couple of women in the genealogy of Christ which includes a harlot and there is a history behind all of them that I don't have time to go into but...

Don't go to a charismatic church if you don't want to see enthusiasm. hahaha
 
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Chuckt

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Chuckie and b23 having fun on a Saturday night......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAIV0POopg

I respect people's personal property, thank you very much.


I'm sorry to hear that but if you don't have security cameras with infrared leds and if you don't have security then you are putting your own people at risk these days. Even our church has cameras and security.

Do yourself and your church a favor and get some cameras before people's lives are at risk.
 

TheLibertonian

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yes, Christian Converts should be locked in a place for a couple of yrs so they can 'temper' their enthusiasm

find that quiet place to decern if they should speak about their faith or not - if you are paying attention the Spirit will prompt you

Well, a measure of introspection in faith is always a good thing.

When you're working metal, it has to be tempered to be made stronger. That's where the term 'temper' comes from.

Faith is fine, but faith tempered by wisdom is brilliant.
 
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Chuckt

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Chuckie and b23 having fun on a Saturday night......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAIV0POopg

I can think of who did do it:

Catholics who aren't getting enough attention and by doing it, they can convince people that their error isn't error but hatred from other people.
People they've offended because they don't know how to speak to people especially when it is slander or gossip like you are doing.
Teenagers in the community. I worked at businesses where the kids climbed the roof and took all the lightbulbs out and broke them all.
Atheists with a grudge
Sinful people (just because they are sinful).
 

cheezgrits

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I can think of who did do it:

Catholics who aren't getting enough attention and by doing it, they can convince people that their error isn't error but hatred from other people.
People they've offended because they don't know how to speak to people especially when it is slander or gossip like you are doing.
Teenagers in the community. I worked at businesses where the kids climbed the roof and took all the lightbulbs out and broke them all.
Atheists with a grudge
Sinful people (just because they are sinful).

What would atheist have a grudge about? A church? God? Hard to have a grudge against something you don't believe in, huh?
 

Bird Dog

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There's no need to ad hominem against ChuckT. It's a low intellectual blow. Engage on ideas, not personal attacks.

He doesn't have any ideas, he cuts and pastes Scripture and attacks the Catholic Chuch.
......and he has been doing it for eight months on this forum. I know sometimes I am stooping to his level, but I like to remind him what an ass I think he is.
Over the years I've been having fun on these forums, there has always been the evangelical who crawls out of the gutter, finds Jesus at some strip mall chuch and starts bashing Catholicism.
Rad1 and others usually do the intellectual fight, I have a the tendency to fight it on a lower level. That's just my style.
I have no problem with intellectual debate, but when someone crawls out of the gutter finds Jesus and tells me, I and my family are going to hell because of our beliefs, I find that as a "personal attack".

His first post on these forums

http://forums.somd.com/threads/300185-Why-would-anyone-look-to-the-Catholic-Church-when
And his best one ever

http://forums.somd.com/threads/303792-Is-Roman-Catholic-Christian
 
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b23hqb

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He doesn't have any ideas, he cuts and pastes Scripture and attacks the Catholic Chuch.
......and he has been doing it for eight months on this forum. I know sometimes I am stooping to his level, but I like to remind him what an ass I think he is.
Over the years I've been having fun on these forums, there has always been the evangelical who crawls out of the gutter, finds Jesus at some strip mall chuch and starts bashing Catholicism.
Rad1 and others usually do the intellectual fight, I have a the tendency to fight it on a lower level. That's just my style.
I have no problem with intellectual debate, but when someone crawls out of the gutter finds Jesus and tells me, I and my family are going to hell because of our beliefs, I find that as a "personal attack".

His first post on these forums

http://forums.somd.com/threads/300185-Why-would-anyone-look-to-the-Catholic-Church-when
And his best one ever

http://forums.somd.com/threads/303792-Is-Roman-Catholic-Christian

You seem to have this real fear about strip malls. Did you have a bad experience in one, like being left there as an infant in a shopping cart? Catholics like you are about as loving and smart as these muslims this thread is about. Check out my poll the other day. Where do you stand on it?
 

TheLibertonian

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You seem to have this real fear about strip malls. Did you have a bad experience in one, like being left there as an infant in a shopping cart? Catholics like you are about as loving and smart as these muslims this thread is about. Check out my poll the other day. Where do you stand on it?

IT's generally a good idea, when thinking of such things, to stop and think "am I making a broad sweeping statement that can apply to a hefty percentage of an overall demographic?". If the answer is yes, chances are you're wrong.

Allow me to share an anecdote. Once upon a time a looong time ago my mother was moving from New York to Florida with her family. Now she was a little girl at the time but old enough to remember. While traveling along the Old 301 in Georgia, their car broke down. Where specifically escapes her memory, but they were sadly stuck there for a day while the vehicle was repaired. Now, this was on a Saturday. They were able to secure lodging at a motel ran by an older couple. The car would be repaired by mid morning the next day.

Now, this older couple were southern baptist, and like all good southern baptist of course attended church on Sunday. However, my mother, and her three sisters, and their little baby brother, newly born, had not had anything to eat since the day before. My grandfather had money and was willing to pay of course, but they didn't have a vehicle, and the nearest place to go was far enough that my grandmother and her baby and the family couldn't make it walking in a reasonable time.

Now, in this situation I myself would offer to go pick something up for the family if I had a vehicle, or even invite them to take some of my food. But you see, that would have meant being late for church, something the couple wouldn't have with.

And you see now my dilemma in pronunciations of the "loving and smart" snideness. You see there is no small amount of evil in the world, but I find that often evil comes in small amounts. Oh yes, we can look to evil in its awe inspiring grand forms, Hitler and the Nazi's, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al., but while that truly is evil, I find the more common, prevalent, and in my eyes damaging evil is the little evils.

So allow me to ask you. If you know someone is suffering on a Sunday morning from hunger, would you miss (or be late for) church in order to feed them? Would it matter to you what religion they were when you saw them hungry? Why? Why not? In the measure of sin, is knowing there is someone in pain that you can help and ignoring them worse, or better, then missing (or being late for) church?

What has the scriptures taught you? What principles do you live by? Do you consider yourself a good person, or do you consider yourself a sinner who attempts and fails at goodness?
 
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