MVA closes Route 5 in Calaway area

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

Where is his family saying it was a diabetic coma?


That just doesnt seem logical? I mean you can go into a diabetic coma and drive completely straight for nearly 2 miles?

Sounds like there is some confusion between "diabetic coma" and "insulin shock". With insulin shock, one might be able to control a motor vehicle.
But, if in a "diabetic coma"; the word "coma" in and of iteself implies unconsciousness; so in THAT state, of course, no one would be able to walk; much less, drive.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

So if you had a drink six weeks ago, and the cops tested and said "She has alcohol in her system" at a traffic accident you should be tried, found guilty and sent to prison??

That's not possible.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

What I'm saying is regardless if she wasn't smoking a joint in the vehicle on the way home, it was in her system. The DA knew she had only tested positive for marijuana when they charged her criminally that resulted in her initially being arrested. And from my understanding, Indiana is a zero tolerence state. Had the results stuck, that girl would hopefully be sitting in a jail cell and might actually be realizing what she did to this family....

That is "operating a motor vehicle under the influence of CDS"; and is punishable by fines AND jail time. Right?

 

[itsbob]

That's not possible.

But is is possible with marijuana..

You may test positive for the presence of pot, but there's no way to tell if you were under the influence.. Or whether you smoked it 5 minutes ago, or six weeks ago.

So I'm guessing your answer would be no...

 

[vraiblonde]

What kind of vile person would say such a thing?

I think your sympathy for this killer is disgusting. Maybe you wouldn't be so smart if he'd taken out one of your kids. It's people like you who keep these #######s on the streets, with your pity and excuse making for those who kill others through blatant negligence. So as far as I'm concerned, there's blood on your hands, too.

You think I'm vile? Well, maybe I can earn your respect by killing two innocent young women. Cause you sure do seem to love you some killers.

 

[kom526]

 

[vraiblonde]

and

 

[Booboo3604]

But is is possible with marijuana..

You may test positive for the presence of pot, but there's no way to tell if you were under the influence.. Or whether you smoked it 5 minutes ago, or six weeks ago.

So I'm guessing your answer would be no...

Pot is illegal regardless of how old you are or at what age you smoke it. Comparing apples to oranges in my opinion.

The chart is on this page (Marijuana Drug Test Detection Times | California NORML) depicts for a one time user in order for THC to be detectable in blood, usage is roughly between the last 12-24 hours. For a regular stoner, it can be traced in the blood for roughly 2-7 days from last use. Keep in mind this girl received a blood test, not a urine test. So she either smoked in the last 24 hours which could be argued that she is still under the influence to some degree OR she is a stoner who smokes weed on a regular basis and regularly putting the lives of innocent people at risk. So yes, I think she should be punished for her actions... Obviously she has no respect for the law (Two 19 over speeding tickets prior to the accident and one 29 over after) or for those around her. I know I wouldn't want to be on the road with her

 

[glhs837]

Sorry, but within 24 hours isnt an indication of impairment. Dont mistake us, if she was indeed under the influence of marijuana when the accident happened, then all legal penalties associated with the should apply. We are not against this girl being punished for what she did wrong, but we also dont agree with going witch hunt on here because you feel bad for the family.

I don't recall seeing any details about the test information, or why the judge dismissed it. Could be it showed results that indicated that impairment wasnt a factor.

THC can remain at low but detectable levels of 1- 2 ng/ml for 8 hours or more without any measurable signs of impairment

The effects don't last all that long. Now, maybe she had just finished smoking some, but we don't have any data to support that.

 

[wineo]

has anyone read The Enterprise today??? I can not believe that he was released the same night as the accident. If he had such a bad medical condition, wouldn't they(the hosptial) have at least kept him overnight..

He has not been charged with anything as of this am...WTF

Oh, by the way, I know where he lives if anyone wants the address

This is just my opinion

 

[JLS]

In the same turn.. again... if that was any of the readers who reads this website, were dehydrated and passed out at the wheel - we could all be the nicest person one day - a nurse or doctor or hospice worker or a plain old cashier - then that evening we drive - we pass out - get in an accident and someone is seriously hurt or killed - the next day we'd be the most hated person with everyone saying "they knew we were trash from the start" or "we had problems and the parents did nothing" and we don't know the first thing about that person or that persons life or that persons family and what they do or don't do.. its easy for everyone to sit back and say "the family excuses someone from doing something wrong" because obviously hes trash.. no one knows that..

Doubtful..

I believe that in the past he's blamed, and the family has excused his actions, because of his condition.. and they will try (are TRYING) to do the same thing here.

More than likely he won't even lose his license over this, and very doubtful he will spend any time in prison or on probation, all because of his disable..

 

[terbear1225]

clearly you are choosing to ignore the part where this person quite obviously did not "pass out" he was awake enough to control the vehicle on a road that would require an alert driver, managed to stop the vehicle at one point (proving it wasn't a mechanical problem causing him to go that fast) and was yelling/ gesturing at other drivers.

this is not a case of someone passing out, if it was, I personally would not blame the driver(unless of course it was a known medical condition that was not being properly taken care of).

 

[JLS]

To the vile disgusting witch: Now - if that was your son or daughter, who had a medical condition (IF that is what happened) and actually passed out while driving and killed someone, would you be on your high horse saying he/shes a killer? I think not. That boy was not my son or a blood relative so don't even assume thats why I'm saying it either. However, I lost someone very close to me who I could NOT have loved anymore than if he was my own son so do not sit there and pretend that you know me in any kind of form. because you don't. I am not the only person on this website that votes nor the only voter who has crappy politicians that are put in the offices they hold. and am NOT the person who makes the decisions as to who goes to jail and who does not, nor how much time the criminals get. And assuming u are not a Judge in the courts since u are nothing but a hide behind web person, you are not making the decisions either. I have no blood on my hands as I do not choose to make up peoples minds for them, nor do I judge people when I do not know the whole entire sequence of events as I was not a participant - but neither were you. So how do u think u KNOW exactly what happened? yes, 2 young women were killed, did they deserve it? No. But people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones either. And again, you don't know me to say who I love or who I don't. You don't know anything about me or my life and I pray to God someone like you never will.

I think your sympathy for this killer is disgusting. Maybe you wouldn't be so smart if he'd taken out one of your kids. It's people like you who keep these #######s on the streets, with your pity and excuse making for those who kill others through blatant negligence. So as far as I'm concerned, there's blood on your hands, too.

You think I'm vile? Well, maybe I can earn your respect by killing two innocent young women. Cause you sure do seem to love you some killers.

 

[glhs837]

People do have medical emergencies, and pass out behind the wheel. But, and heres the key, people with medical emergencies either do one impact and done, or jam the throttle and straight line into whatever is ahead of them. Are we saying his foot, out of all his other limbs, locked up, but he could still turn the wheel?


That's what has folks fired up. I dont know of a case where a medical emergency has an initial impact, then navigates for a full mile before crashing again. Its Occams Razor, the simplest explanation that fits all the facts is most likely the correct one.

 

[PrepH4U]

To the vile disgusting witch: Now - if that was your son or daughter, who had a medical condition (IF that is what happened) and actually passed out while driving and killed someone, would you be on your high horse saying he/shes a killer? I think not. That boy was not my son or a blood relative so don't even assume thats why I'm saying it either. However, I lost someone very close to me who I could NOT have loved anymore than if he was my own son so do not sit there and pretend that you know me in any kind of form. because you don't. I am not the only person on this website that votes nor the only voter who has crappy politicians that are put in the offices they hold. and am NOT the person who makes the decisions as to who goes to jail and who does not, nor how much time the criminals get. And assuming u are not a Judge in the courts since u are nothing but a hide behind web person, you are not making the decisions either. I have no blood on my hands as I do not choose to make up peoples minds for them, nor do I judge people when I do not know the whole entire sequence of events as I was not a participant - but neither were you. So how do u think u KNOW exactly what happened? yes, 2 young women were killed, did they deserve it? No. But people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones either. And again, you don't know me to say who I love or who I don't. You don't know anything about me or my life and I pray to God someone like you never will.

Wow paragraphs defending the "sick" driver and one sentence saying how deeply sympathetic you are for the loss of lives. :sarcastic: But, that's ok we know that the "sick" driver will help provide for the children that one left behind. hmmmm
I am amazed if he was so "sick" that we was able to stop at a redlight & flip a greeting to those that he passed. What a true gentleman.

 

[libertytyranny]

Sounds like there is some confusion between "diabetic coma" and "insulin shock". With insulin shock, one might be able to control a motor vehicle.
But, if in a "diabetic coma"; the word "coma" in and of iteself implies unconsciousness; so in THAT state, of course, no one would be able to walk; much less, drive.

I think "insulin shock" makes it sound more terrible than it is. That's just a fancy way of saying low blood sugar. A coma can result if it gets low enough. Kinda like two sides of the same coin.

Most people feel terrible symptoms in conjunction with low blood sugar. I myself, feel like I am going insane. It's like a panic attack that only goes away if I eat something. But most people get headaches, tremors, anxiety, they just feel terrible. Sometimes type 1 diabetics can get "used" to having hypoglycemia if it happens often enough and won't feel the effects coming on. But In general you don't just go from being totally normal to blacked out in the course of a normal local drive.

I don't know about this man's medical condition or history, but if he was on insulin, it is terribly important to monitor your BS and insulin dosage and eat regularly and frequently. especially when in command of a heavy chunk of motorized metal.

but if what's being said online is true killingme I know, funny) and he hit another woman and then continued on to other vehicles...it seems pretty far fetched that it was disease related. Unless he had a stroke (which seems unlikely if they treated and released him) I have seem people with hypo that do seem a bit disoriented, or have fainted/passed out..but I haven't encountered anyone who was totally out of control of their faculties who wasn't totally out.

 

[DoWhat]

You don't know anything about me or my life and I pray to God someone like you never will.

I bet she would if you went "Premo".

 

[Dev]

Dude has a laundry list of charges from traffic to drugs. Waste of life, needs to fry.

Maryland Judiciary Case Search

 

[BadGirl]

Dude has a laundry list of charges from traffic to drugs. Waste of life, needs to fry.

Maryland Judiciary Case Search

 

[vraiblonde]

(IF that is what happened)

That's not what happened. I think any idiot could look at the facts of the incident, coupled with Mr. Rice's criminal history, and determine that.

Therefore it is my opinion that you must not be just any idiot, but an extra super special idiot.