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Railroad
Routinely Derailed
== PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==
Region: NORTH KOREA
Geographic coordinates: 41.311N, 129.114E
Magnitude: 4.2 Mb
Depth: 0 km
Universal Time (UTC): 9 Oct 2006 01:35:27
Time near the Epicenter: 9 Oct 2006 10:35:27
Local time in your area: 8 Oct 2006 20:35:27
Location with respect to nearby cities:
70 km (44 miles) N (354 degrees) of Kimchaek, North Korea
88 km (55 miles) SW (229 degrees) of Chongjin, North Korea
176 km (110 miles) S (191 degrees) of Yanji, Jilin, China
382 km (238 miles) NE (47 degrees) of PYONGYANG, North Korea
ADDITIONAL EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS
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event ID : US tqab
This event has been reviewed by a seismologist at NEIC For subsequent updates, maps, and technical information, see:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php
or
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/
Region: NORTH KOREA
Geographic coordinates: 41.311N, 129.114E
Magnitude: 4.2 Mb
Depth: 0 km
Universal Time (UTC): 9 Oct 2006 01:35:27
Time near the Epicenter: 9 Oct 2006 10:35:27
Local time in your area: 8 Oct 2006 20:35:27
Location with respect to nearby cities:
70 km (44 miles) N (354 degrees) of Kimchaek, North Korea
88 km (55 miles) SW (229 degrees) of Chongjin, North Korea
176 km (110 miles) S (191 degrees) of Yanji, Jilin, China
382 km (238 miles) NE (47 degrees) of PYONGYANG, North Korea
ADDITIONAL EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS
________________________________
event ID : US tqab
This event has been reviewed by a seismologist at NEIC For subsequent updates, maps, and technical information, see:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php
or
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/
Larry Gude
Strung Out
No...
...not in the sense of using them on us. That's not the point of having them from their standpoint. Being 'major league' is the point.
slaphappynmd said:
...not in the sense of using them on us. That's not the point of having them from their standpoint. Being 'major league' is the point.
ylexot
Super Genius
"It will be better for the Security Council of the United Nations to congratulate the DPRK scientists and researchers instead of doing such notorious, useless and rigorous resolutions or whatever," Pak said, referring to the North by its formal name, the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea.
Translation: NK acknowledges the worthlessness of all the UN resolutions since the UN is unwilling to back them up with anything other than words.
Translation: NK acknowledges the worthlessness of all the UN resolutions since the UN is unwilling to back them up with anything other than words.
B
Bruzilla
Guest
I've felt all along that North Korea does not have a nuclear weapon and that this has all been a big bluff and this supposed test confirms my opinion for me at least. There has never been a nuclear detonation that was that small. The bombs that were detonated in our west and dropped on Hiroshima were the smallest bombs yet and they were 12+ kilotons each. So assuming that the NKs have infact been stealing and buying plans for nuclear weapons over the past few decades, they would have been getting plans for multi-megaton weapons, not one that's a relative firecracker.
An explosion that appears to be in the 550-800 kiloton range explosion is very well in the realm of accomplishment with conventional explosives, and I would bet that's exactly what North Korea used. Also, note that the North Koreans have been very vocal about how they were able to contain 100% of the radiation from their test explosion. Even the most recent US, Soviet, and French underground tests have yielded some increased radiation, yet the North Koreans are scampering about at the get go claiming they've contained 100% of theirs. The only way they could be that sure there would be no radiation increases detected would be if they knew for sure there would be no radiation to be detected, i.e., they didn't have a nuclear detonation.
When the Soviets, French, Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, British, and every other nuclear-capable nation detonated a nuclear weapon, above or below ground, we knew it right away. The fact that our intel folks aren't able to immediately confirm that the NKs detonated a nuke shows me that they're pretty sure the detonation was not nuclear and are looking for evidence of what it was.
An explosion that appears to be in the 550-800 kiloton range explosion is very well in the realm of accomplishment with conventional explosives, and I would bet that's exactly what North Korea used. Also, note that the North Koreans have been very vocal about how they were able to contain 100% of the radiation from their test explosion. Even the most recent US, Soviet, and French underground tests have yielded some increased radiation, yet the North Koreans are scampering about at the get go claiming they've contained 100% of theirs. The only way they could be that sure there would be no radiation increases detected would be if they knew for sure there would be no radiation to be detected, i.e., they didn't have a nuclear detonation.
When the Soviets, French, Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, British, and every other nuclear-capable nation detonated a nuclear weapon, above or below ground, we knew it right away. The fact that our intel folks aren't able to immediately confirm that the NKs detonated a nuke shows me that they're pretty sure the detonation was not nuclear and are looking for evidence of what it was.
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
FromTexas said:Drudge has changed from the picture of Kim Jong to the Team America: World Police puppet of Kim Jong for their header.
LMAO I was getting ready to post that.
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Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Let me get this right. They exploded an atomic weapon that was substantialy smaller than the first one we did back in the 40's.
B
Bruzilla
Guest
Yeah. The Hiroshima bomb was equal to 12+ kilotons of TNT. The North Korea detonation was 550 to 800 tons. Nuclear weapons have been in the megaton yield range for decades, so I don't see North Korea getting a hold of plans for a nuclear firecracker from anybody.
Once again... the theory of building a nuclear weapon is kid's stuff, but the practice is very, very difficult.
Once again... the theory of building a nuclear weapon is kid's stuff, but the practice is very, very difficult.
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
I think it's time to try out that MOAB thing we got sitting around collecting dust.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Yesterday...
...I started a post about this in order to discuss what their motivation would be to fake this. Were they unsure if we could tell for sure? Was it a dud?
I stopped after about 10 minutes of rolling it around in my head, just too bored with the abject dysfunction of these guys to even bother trying to rationally discuss it.
If this is true, a fake, then the sting of world ridicule and late night jokes is gonna set in quick enough. What then? A 'face saving' attack on he South?
...I started a post about this in order to discuss what their motivation would be to fake this. Were they unsure if we could tell for sure? Was it a dud?
I stopped after about 10 minutes of rolling it around in my head, just too bored with the abject dysfunction of these guys to even bother trying to rationally discuss it.
If this is true, a fake, then the sting of world ridicule and late night jokes is gonna set in quick enough. What then? A 'face saving' attack on he South?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Well...
...I didn't say that.
An attack of the South would be more of the same. Their preparedness, serviceability, maintenance and supply situation is probably much like their nuke program; when the dust settles, it's a mess.
willie said:
...I didn't say that.
An attack of the South would be more of the same. Their preparedness, serviceability, maintenance and supply situation is probably much like their nuke program; when the dust settles, it's a mess.