NBC knows what normal Christians are like...

[Qurious]

another program convincing Christians that its okay to be Gay because Jesus loves you....

uggghhhhh

 

[PJay]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48096

Je me sens malade...

 

[PJay]

It is beyond me who thinks up this filth

Really? Not me. I know exactly. Anyway, did you see the other link at the bottom of the page that you shared:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47766

NBC's 'Medium' pushes decency limit
Husband asks wife if she'd like 'thicker, longer' organ

NBC's popular prime-time program "Medium" shocked viewers last night as the main male character asks his wife if she's searching for a "thicker, longer penis."

Shows clearly the direction NBC is shooting for. Sweet. Gone are the days of good, clean family programs. I'm affraid to have the TV on these days with mixed company.

 

[MMDad]

Really? Not me. I know exactly. Anyway, did you see the other link at the bottom of the page that you shared:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47766





Shows clearly the direction NBC is shooting for. Sweet. Gone are the days of good, clean family programs. I'm affraid to have the TV on these days with mixed company.

Once again, I don't understand. As a parent, I want to know when I have to be more careful. If a show comes on at 10 PM, why should it have to be family programming? If it offends you, why not turn the channel? There are probably 30 channels on my cable that I would use any time, with any company. Why must you censor what other adults choose to watch? Without choice, there is no chance to sin. The bible says that we all sin, so are you trying to stop all sin? If Jesus didn't do that, what makes you think you can?

 

[PJay]

Once again, I don't understand. As a parent, I want to know when I have to be more careful. If a show comes on at 10 PM, why should it have to be family programming? If it offends you, why not turn the channel? There are probably 30 channels on my cable that I would use any time, with any company. Why must you censor what other adults choose to watch? Without choice, there is no chance to sin. The bible says that we all sin, so are you trying to stop all sin? If Jesus didn't do that, what makes you think you can?

I will reply here, then I'm done with you. I have witnessed a few of your other posts, and frankly I know where your mind is. It was very gross to read.

Anyway, it becomes a little too late to change the blasted channel when the offensive words have already been said. There is no warning! Example being, my father was visiting over the holidays and he's an adult, okay? So words come bursting out on TV that I am not comfortable at all in sharing in listening with him present...following now? I will say this again, for you might have missed it in another post of mine..I have no interest in saving your soul, or anyone elses..remember that.

 

[MMDad]

I will reply here, then I'm done with you. I have witnessed a few of your other posts, and frankly I know where your mind is. It was very gross to read.

Anyway, it's becomes a little to late to change the blasted channel when the offensive words have already been said. There is no warning! Example being, my father was visiting over the holidays and he's an adult, okay? So words come bursting out on TV that I am not comfortable at all in sharing in listening with him present...following now? I will say this again, for you might have missed it in another post of mine..I have no interest in saving your soul, or anyone elses..remember that.

Thanks for not answering the question. If I don't want my children exposed to something, I find out what's on and adjust the TV accordingly. Why can't you do the same if you are worried about dear old dad hearing something?

 

[Cali Transplant]

Just watch for the rating symbol at the beginning of the show or in TV Guide. Simple. It's funny how people complain about what's on television, when it's obvious they spend a lot of time watching it.

 

[Hessian]

Go ahead and get an honest answer...

A) Do your kids have TV's in their room?
B) Does your house have cable?
C) Do the kids know how to get past the parent blocks?
D) Does LAW & ORDER SVU and CSI get broadcast on cable during "family viewing" hours? (I'm sure there are others but I just pulled those for example)

Our youth are saturated with sex & violence...ask the average teen if they have played grand theft auto or some of the blood-gore and sex enriched "games"....then find out WHEN they were first exposed to it: ....the answer: as children.

Who is to blame? Lax parents?...older brothers & sisters?...Negligent friends?
YES to all but the culprits also hide behind "freedom of Speech" with such networks at Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and Disney.

I want to know why 6th graders burst out laughing when you describe the difficulty of farming with a "hoe."...

Its the corruption of our culture...and its sad.

 

[MMDad]

A) Do your kids have TV's in their room?
B) Does your house have cable?
C) Do the kids know how to get past the parent blocks?
D) Does LAW & ORDER SVU and CSI get broadcast on cable during "family viewing" hours? (I'm sure there are others but I juist pulled those for example)

Our youth are saturated with sex & violence...ask the average teen if they have played grand theft auto or some of the blood-gore and sex enriched "games"....then find out WHEN they were first exposed to it: ....the answer: as children.

Who is to blame? Lax parents?...older brothers & sisters?...Negligent friends?
YES to all but the culprits also hide behind "freedom of Speech" with such networks at Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and Disney.

I want to know why 6th graders burst out laughing when you describe the difficulty of farming with a "hoe."...

Its the corruption of our culture...and its sad.

A) no
B) yes
C) no
D) yes, but I choose not to allow them to watch it.

Yes, lax parenting is to blame.

I don't see how you can blame the networks, when it is our society demanding the programming. The networks and the FCC have given me the tools to prevent my children from being exposed to the things I find are inappropriate. Fortunately, they have a Mom at home to monitor them, and when the TV is on they watch only educational programs.

Why aren't shows more wholesome? $$$$

If people don't watch, advertisers don't pay. Like it or not, we do have freedom of speech. As a consumer, we can vote with our wallets, and we can turn the channel or turn off the idiot box. Let's leave censorship to the fascists and Nazis.

I'll give you an example: the superbowl Janet jackson fiasco. I have no problem with what she did, except that it happened at a time that was traditionally G rated. Suddenly making it sexual was not appropriate, and they deprived me of my right and ability to monitor what my children are exposed to. That's why the fines were levied, and it probably won't happen again. However, if we had gone into halftime with an apprpriate warning and I let my children watch, I would be the one at fault.

 

[MMDad]

A) no
B) yes
C) no
D) yes, but I choose not to allow them to watch it.

Yes, lax parenting is to blame.

I don't see how you can blame the networks, when it is our society demanding the programming. The networks and the FCC have given me the tools to prevent my children from being exposed to the things I find are inappropriate. Fortunately, they have a Mom at home to monitor them, and when the TV is on they watch only educational programs.

Why aren't shows more wholesome? $$$$

If people don't watch, advertisers don't pay. Like it or not, we do have freedom of speech. As a consumer, we can vote with our wallets, and we can turn the channel or turn off the idiot box. Let's leave censorship to the fascists and Nazis.

I'll give you an example: the superbowl Janet jackson fiasco. I have no problem with what she did, except that it happened at a time that was traditionally G rated. Suddenly making it sexual was not appropriate, and they deprived me of my right and ability to monitor what my children are exposed to. That's why the fines were levied, and it probably won't happen again. However, if we had gone into halftime with an apprpriate warning and I let my children watch, I would be the one at fault.

One more point. I have done a lot of volunteer work at our local schools. During the end of season banquets, there were three kinds of kids. First were the great kids, and I already knew their parents because they had been there the whole time. Next were the good kids, and their parents were there for once. Last were the bad kids, there alone. I can't blame the kids if the parents don't care.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I can't just repent, I must be "re-born?" I don't quite understand.

It is quite easy. Jesus said it. He does set the standard.

John 3:1-6
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews;

2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, "Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him."

3Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."

4Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he?"

5Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[MMDad]

In other words, if you learn from birth to be good, and commit no sins, you cannot be saved because you are not "born again". You must change your lifestyle and become evil, and then you will be saved.

Do you even read what you write before you send it?

Cowardly red from this. If you are not willing to admit your identity to me, you probably can't admit your sins to your god. Anonymity is your accomplice as long as you are determined to be a sinner.

 

[MMDad]

It is quite easy. Jesus said it. He does set the standard.

For once, I'm not intending to be arguementative. It looks to me as if you should be born again, and be baptized. If you are baptized early in life, must you be "born again" later?

 

[2ndAmendment]

I don't understand how this is that atypical. Are there gay priests? Are there priests who have alcoholic wives? And promiscuous kids? Sure, it's stretching things to put them all together, but why the outrage? It looks to me like you have normal people with all of their faults, dealing with their issues. What's the problem?

I won't be watching it because i have no interest, but why call for it to be removed? Isn't there something to be said for having the oppurtunity, but deciding to do what you think is right? Where does the censorship end?

Are there homosexual priests? Yes. Are they going to God's kingdom. That is up to God, but I think the Bible says not.

Matthew 7:15-23

15"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

16"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

17"So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

18"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

19"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20"So then, you will know them by their fruits.

21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

If they turn away from homosexual acts and repent, then that is different.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

11Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

 

[2ndAmendment]

For once, I'm not intending to be arguementative. It looks to me as if you should be born again, and be baptized. If you are baptized early in life, must you be "born again" later?

Water baptism does absolutely nothing without repentance. The christening of children before they are able to understand and make a conscience decision for themselves to follow Christ is only to make the parents feel good and nothing more.

When you have acknowledged you are a sinner and repented (rejected the sin in your life), accepted the forgiveness through Jesus, and are born of the Spirit (received the Holy Spirit), then you are born again.

It does not mean you will be perfect. You will be a work in progress. It does mean that you will do things God's way according to His word, and when you don't, you will agree with God that you have sinned and accept His forgiveness. This is a process of growing in the Spirit. But you cannot grow in the Spirit until you have been born of the Spirit.

 

[MMDad]

Are there homosexual priests? Yes. Are they going to God's kingdom. That is up to God, but I think the Bible says not.

If they turn away from homosexual acts and repent, then that is different.

I'm not defending homosexuality. I believe that it is either a sin against God or a sin against nature. However, I do beleive that there are homosexuals, and even worse pedarists, in clergy. Is it wrong to show this to adults? Can't this help them understand their fellow man?

 

[MMDad]

Water baptism does absolutely nothing without repentance. The christening of children before they are able to understand and make a conscience decision for themselves to follow Christ is only to make the parents feel good and nothing more.

When you have acknowledged you are a sinner and repented (rejected the sin in your life), accepted the forgiveness through Jesus, and are born of the Spirit (received the Holy Spirit), then you are born again.

It does not mean you will be perfect. You will be a work in progress. It does mean that you will do things God's way according to His word, and when you don't, you will agree with God that you have sinned and accept His forgiveness. This is a process of growing in the Spirit. But you cannot grow in the Spirit until you have been born of the Spirit.

We finally agree. I was raised Mormon, and they do not baptise until age 8. I really didn't understand sin until I was older, so I didn't feel like I had been baptised. However, age 8 is more realistic than baptism at birth.

The "born again" concept is what bothers me. It sounds like you must have rejected God and Christ, then found the error of your ways, in order to be saved. That really doesn't fit into my beliefs, and I reject the concept. I do believe that people who have rejected God can be born again, but if you never have rejected god why must you be born again?

 

[2ndAmendment]

I'm not defending homosexuality. I believe that it is either a sin against God or a sin against nature. However, I do beleive that there are homosexuals, and even worse pedarists, in clergy. Is it wrong to show this to adults? Can't this help them understand their fellow man?

The show will be shown. The world clamors for more and more perversion.

Christians are called to be holy just as God is holy.

Colossians 1:21-23

21And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds,

22yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach--

23if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.

1 Corinthians 6:12-20

12All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.

13Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body.

14Now God has not only raised the Lord, but will also raise us up through His power.

15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be!

16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH."

17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body.

19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

20For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

 

[2ndAmendment]

We finally agree. I was raised Mormon, and they do not baptise until age 8. I really didn't understand sin until I was older, so I didn't feel like I had been baptised. However, age 8 is more realistic than baptism at birth.

The "born again" concept is what bothers me. It sounds like you must have rejected God and Christ, then found the error of your ways, in order to be saved. That really doesn't fit into my beliefs, and I reject the concept. I do believe that people who have rejected God can be born again, but if you never have rejected god why must you be born again?

If you say you have never sinned then you disagree with the Bible. All have sinned. If you have not received the Holy Spirit, if the Holy Spirit does not live within you, you have not been born again. You do not disagree with me. You disagree with God's word. Jesus is the One Who said you must be born again.

Romans 3:21-26

21But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

22even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

24being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;

25whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

 

[MMDad]

The show will be shown. The world clamors for more and more perversion.

Christians are called to be holy just as God is holy.

Doesn't this show help people to understsand human nature? If we understand sin, but reject that sin and make the right choices, aren't we being better people? I don't think that I need to repent for understanding sinners. I need to repent for my own sins. There was one person who was responsible for other peoples sins, and we just celebrated His birth.