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[ICit]

What about an obedience class and a shock collar? Tell ur ex to pay for it;

I dont think he will get a positive training out of an ecollar.



first question is.. where is he all day... do you work with him at all obedience wise??? when was the last time you made life exciting for him? Dogs want to please.... and you only get out of your dog what you put into him.

 

[Micki]

Liberty, I'm sorry the kennel didn't work out. I had to put down one of my 90 lbs German shepherds about 3 months ago. By him having seizures the last few years his brain got more and more damaged and he became aggressive to everybody. And yes, inside the house he was a love-bug. But sometimes you do have to make decisions that are against your nature. In your case I would worry about the baby being attacked by him. Wish you all the luck to make the right decision.

 

[ICit]

Liberty, I'm sorry the kennel didn't work out. I had to put down one of my 90 lbs German shepherds about 3 months ago. By him having seizures the last few years his brain got more and more damaged and he became aggressive to everybody. And yes, inside the house he was a love-bug. But sometimes you do have to make decisions that are against your nature. In your case I would worry about the baby being attacked by him. Wish you all the luck to make the right decision.

I don’t think she is saying he is aggressive to people...

I think he doesn’t have the right socialization he needs to understand how to be around other dogs. If he was never taught.. then he doesn’t know how to react. The dogs are more reactive around dogs.... than aggressive

 

[vraiblonde]

I dont think he needs that... i think he needs someone that can be his leader and show him the right way. also someone who is willing to commit to the job of helping him, learning the right way to work out his energy,

Right, but no one seems to be stepping up.

 

[ICit]

Right, but no one seems to be stepping up.

I have offered several times.... but there was always an excuse.

I do think Turbo help her a little before he went to FL and had an accident.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have offered several times.... but there was always an excuse.

You offered to take the dog? Why wouldn't she let you have it?

 

[ICit]

You offered to take the dog? Why wouldn't she let you have it?

...... i offered to help her with training before the baby was born, and even after the baby was born.

guessing that has been close to a year ago.. maybe a little longer.


HELL NO... I have enough dogs...and they all are working type dogs that need individual attention.

 

[vraiblonde]

...... i offered to help her with training before the baby was born, and even after the baby was born.

It sounds like she has neither the time nor the desire to make that type of commitment to her ex's dog, and I can't say as I blame her. What crazy person gives up their life to try and rehabilitate some dog that was foisted off on them and isn't even theirs?

My understanding is that she wants someone to take the dog off her hands and give it a home and some firm discipline, not become a slave to it.

 

[ICit]

It sounds like she has neither the time nor the desire to make that type of commitment to her ex's dog, and I can't say as I blame her. What crazy person gives up their life to try and rehabilitate some dog that was foisted off on them and isn't even theirs?

My understanding is that she wants someone to take the dog off her hands and give it a home and some firm discipline, not become a slave to it.

right... but at the time she was asking for help in training they were still together... so now the bad behavior was never stopped, no structure given and now she is looking for a new home.

all im saying is if steps for training were taken back at that time then it may not be were it is today.

 

[libertytyranny]

Turbo did come see him. It was very expensive and did no good :shrug: He listened to turbo while he was there, but nothing ever actually did anything. Turbo put an e collar on him, all he did was lay on his back and utterly REFUSED to even get up, much less work anymore. I'm sorry he seemed to have had an accident, but he walked away with several hundred bucks from me.

I have, from the moment the dog walked into the house, repeatedly enforced certain rules with him..no jumping on people is one of them..he was never, ever, ever not even once allowed to jump on anyone..yet he repeatedly does. despite trying a million diff things. yelling, shaking a coin container, whistles, spray bottles, treats when people come in and he doesnt jump (which never happened anyway), screaming until my ####ing head explodes..the jumping is the reason he put the ecollar on him to get him to knock it off. nothing works. Its not like I havent tried. I cannot and WILL NOT walk him. It isn't safe and I am not going to open myself up to danger and lawsuits and frankly I don't think it is a miracle cure anyway. I cannot just walk the dog and expect him to magically be better behaved. his overzealousness when meeting people (old, new, been there 8 hours already, doesn't matter) is what makes him impossible to live with. Does crating him or putting him in the outdoor kennel making it worse? probably. But I am not going to let him have the opportunity to hurt me, my child, or anything else.

He is too strong for me to handle safely, I have 0 help with him, and its as much as I can manage to get him inside and outside and kept decently clean and vetted...much less any meaningful training. the simplest task like taking him outside, becomes a huge struggle, and i have been physically injured by him taking a notion to get to something.

ICit, youve been really nice, but frankly you haven't met the dog..there is no one in my life right now that doesn't want to see him PTS..that's how much of a toll he takes on my life..and I don't recall making "excuses" for anything... I tried a halter from a friend, he wasn't any easier to handle, walking wise. And I'm a little gun shy after being out money from Turbo with no results.

He needs a home with no young children, no cats, and a single male who can be strong enough to handle him. I've put a lot of thought into it. Im not being lazy, my entire life is RUN by this animal. I cant go anywhere because no one wants to watch him, I am constantly worried about his well being and mine. He does need more time, more strength, and more leadership..but despite my best efforts I can't help him. Ive even tried drugging the damn thing so he can maybe chill out enough the listen..it worked some, but the pills made him sick.

He knows basic commands..but you can't get him to do them when there is anyone else around, or any animals, or anything remotely interesting. What good is basic training if he gets so freaking excited at the least thing that he cant follow through?

 

[struggler44]

.......He knows basic commands..but you can't get him to do them when there is anyone else around, or any animals, or anything remotely interesting. What good is basic training if he gets so freaking excited at the least thing that he cant follow through?

I had a red Doberman who was the most strong minded dog I have ever seen and the only thing he would listen to at times was the "B" section of the Enterprise rolled up and coated with duct tape, not being mean but when the paper was brought out, he listened......

 

[PrepH4U]

If it were me, I would dump the dog off at ex's parents' house. Then I would walk away with the affirmation that this was never my problem in the first place, I merely allowed someone to make it my problem, and now that problem once again belongs to its rightful owner. Then I would spend my time on things that *are* my problem and never think about that other person's problem again.

I am usually all for rehab and training but this situation does sound a little dangerous, If she cannot take him outside to the kennel w/o risking getting hurt.
Besides staying in a crate all day and then only allowed to go outside to an outside cage will really not teach this dog to calm down.
I remember when ex brought him home and Liberty was saying she did not want him. I also remember the threads when Turbo agreed to help out by shocking the poor dog.
Liberty I have to agree to take him to the ex and let him deal with him, it's not up to you to be the dogs only hope. If the ex takes him to the shelter, that is another good reason that he is your ex. You have to look out for yourself and your child.

 

[libertytyranny]

I had a red Doberman who was the most strong minded dog I have ever seen and the only thing he would listen to at times was the "B" section of the Enterprise rolled up and coated with duct tape, not being mean but when the paper was brought out, he listened......

Thats the issue..when ex got fed up and yelled mean ..he listened much better and yeah, when ex has him in the house, by himself and he smacks him a time or two on the rump when hes being nuts..the dog acts so much different he can tell him to lay down, and he listens on a much more consistant basis....but I just cant imagine having a good life with a dog I have to scream at or become hysterical with or even hit to get them to act decent. I don't have it in me..and I would get no enjoyment out of it.

 

[vraiblonde]

LT, sometimes it's just the dog and there's nothing you can do about it. Do not listen to people who try to guilt you and say you just didn't try hard enough. Larry and I had a dog that we adored, but I ended up having to have him put down because he was a fear-aggression biter - we were playing Russian Roulette with this dog every day and the shelter couldn't adopt him out because of the biting. He, too, was a love baby moosh ball....except for when he was biting children.

With a dog like that, at some point you have to be responsible and call it a day before someone gets really hurt.

 

[struggler44]

Thats the issue..when ex got fed up and yelled mean ..he listened much better and yeah, when ex has him in the house, by himself and he smacks him a time or two on the rump when hes being nuts..the dog acts so much different he can tell him to lay down, and he listens on a much more consistant basis....but I just cant imagine having a good life with a dog I have to scream at or become hysterical with or even hit to get them to act decent. I don't have it in me..and I would get no enjoyment out of it.

Sounds like you're the one suffering; sorry to hear it. Take the dog to the shelter and be done with it.

 

[Sharon]

Turbo did come see him. It was very expensive and did no good :shrug: He listened to turbo while he was there, but nothing ever actually did anything. Turbo put an e collar on him, all he did was lay on his back and utterly REFUSED to even get up, much less work anymore. I'm sorry he seemed to have had an accident, but he walked away with several hundred bucks from me.

I have, from the moment the dog walked into the house, repeatedly enforced certain rules with him..no jumping on people is one of them..he was never, ever, ever not even once allowed to jump on anyone..yet he repeatedly does. despite trying a million diff things. yelling, shaking a coin container, whistles, spray bottles, treats when people come in and he doesnt jump (which never happened anyway), screaming until my ####ing head explodes..the jumping is the reason he put the ecollar on him to get him to knock it off. nothing works. Its not like I havent tried. I cannot and WILL NOT walk him. It isn't safe and I am not going to open myself up to danger and lawsuits and frankly I don't think it is a miracle cure anyway. I cannot just walk the dog and expect him to magically be better behaved. his overzealousness when meeting people (old, new, been there 8 hours already, doesn't matter) is what makes him impossible to live with. Does crating him or putting him in the outdoor kennel making it worse? probably. But I am not going to let him have the opportunity to hurt me, my child, or anything else.

He is too strong for me to handle safely, I have 0 help with him, and its as much as I can manage to get him inside and outside and kept decently clean and vetted...much less any meaningful training. the simplest task like taking him outside, becomes a huge struggle, and i have been physically injured by him taking a notion to get to something.

ICit, youve been really nice, but frankly you haven't met the dog..there is no one in my life right now that doesn't want to see him PTS..that's how much of a toll he takes on my life..and I don't recall making "excuses" for anything... I tried a halter from a friend, he wasn't any easier to handle, walking wise. And I'm a little gun shy after being out money from Turbo with no results.

He needs a home with no young children, no cats, and a single male who can be strong enough to handle him. I've put a lot of thought into it. Im not being lazy, my entire life is RUN by this animal. I cant go anywhere because no one wants to watch him, I am constantly worried about his well being and mine. He does need more time, more strength, and more leadership..but despite my best efforts I can't help him. Ive even tried drugging the damn thing so he can maybe chill out enough the listen..it worked some, but the pills made him sick.

He knows basic commands..but you can't get him to do them when there is anyone else around, or any animals, or anything remotely interesting. What good is basic training if he gets so freaking excited at the least thing that he cant follow through?

I am usually all for rehab and training but this situation does sound a little dangerous, If she cannot take him outside to the kennel w/o risking getting hurt.
Besides staying in a crate all day and then only allowed to go outside to an outside cage will really not teach this dog to calm down.
I remember when ex brought him home and Liberty was saying she did not want him. I also remember the threads when Turbo agreed to help out by shocking the poor dog.
Liberty I have to agree to take him to the ex and let him deal with him, it's not up to you to be the dogs only hope. If the ex takes him to the shelter, that is another good reason that he is your ex. You have to look out for yourself and your child.

I was wondering how you ended up with this dog. I'm guessing the ex left it behind and you got stuck with it. I was under the impression that you wanted to keep it because you loved it.

Obviously you and the dog are not a good fit for each other. You really have no choice but to see if the ex wants it back or take it to a shelter. The latter is a tough thing to do but maybe it's the only choice you have. Good luck.

 

[kwillia]

It sounds like she has neither the time nor the desire to make that type of commitment to her ex's dog, and I can't say as I blame her. What crazy person gives up their life to try and rehabilitate some dog that was foisted off on them and isn't even theirs?

My understanding is that she wants someone to take the dog off her hands and give it a home and some firm discipline, not become a slave to it.

I haven't read any further than this post so if someone else already says it oh well....

She freakin' went from what was supposed to be a two-adult relationship that would both be caring for the household, baby and dog to doing it all by herself and the dog is one that needs a lot of attention... well guess what... Monster is a toddler now and she trumps the dog so I, for one, think it is really really really nice of her to try to find the dog a good home rather than just take it to the shelter. Good luck, Lib!

 

[Baja28]

Where are all those pitt lovers on here?? Chrisonllyn who swears they're the most temperamental dogs in the world. Dawn?? MMMDonuts?? There's more... Where are you all??

 

[RareBreed]

LT, it sounds like you've done everything you can to get this dog to behave and it's not working. I agree about making the ex take the dog back and what he chooses to do with it is on him. You are not to blame if he ends up taking it to the shelter. You saved the dog from that fate this long but your baby comes first and seeing that the dog is hyper, she might accidentally get hurt due to no fault of hers. As much as you don't want the dog to end up in the shelter, it seems like you are at the end of your rope and are very resentful towards the dog and your ex for dumping the dog on you. You have every right to be and you shouldn't feel bad for making the decision to get the dog out of your house. Good luck in whatever you decide.

 

[ontheriver]

LT, a sounds like you know what you need to do. You are a good person to try so hard for this dog, but you can only do what you can.