New and Improved?
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Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
UglyBear
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Boo! No kielbasa for you!
Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
All in good fun. At least it used to be back when I commanded a mine detector team.Boo! No kielbasa for you!
Всего хорошего, мой друг!
--- End of line (MCP)
UglyBear
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Taken in good fun
Funny coincidence: my Dad was trained as commander of mine laying team, during his after-college ROTC stint in the Red Army. I would guess at approximately same time. Just on the other side
UglyBear
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Apologies for hijacking the thread. There was an old Soviet joke.
NATO command is giving a briefing on the Soviet troops opposing them:
NATO command is giving a briefing on the Soviet troops opposing them:
- motorized infantry — red chevrons, your usual infantry, armed with AK-47 and squad weapons.
- Airborne — blue chevrons, elite units, equivalent to US Marines, extra hand-to-hand training, top-of-the-line weapons.
- Combat engineers — black chevrons with a bulldozer insignia. Stay the f away from them, these animals are so fierce that they are not even allowed firearms!
UglyBear
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The truth is that they really weren’t allowed firearms — стройбат, or construction battalions, were the conscripts of the bottom level. They either were conscripted from juvies, could barely (or not at all) understand Russian, or were just a point above mental deficiency. It was very likely that given firearms, they would take off on a crime spree, start a long trek back to the mountains, or go terrorize the local goats. And those are the guys my Dad had to command
The Tiger was an Excellent Expensive Tank
The T-34 was Good Enough Not expected last long enough until its 1st engine replacement .. often poor quality steel and gaps in the armor seems ....
but damn there were lots of them ...
on the other hand the Sherman was cheap, reliable and easily repairable often recovered repaired and sent back out
The T-34 was Good Enough Not expected last long enough until its 1st engine replacement .. often poor quality steel and gaps in the armor seems ....
but damn there were lots of them ...
on the other hand the Sherman was cheap, reliable and easily repairable often recovered repaired and sent back out
Quantity is a quality all its own.
UglyBear
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Hey, the conscript approach. One of the “great” marshals was quoted something like “don’t pity the soldiers, send them in wave after wave. The broads will welp more of them”.
What I’m curious to see is an unbiased comparison between Soviet Airborne and US Marines. The Airborne was its own branch, got the best of the conscripts and had large professional NCO cadres.
Kinda like the U.S. Grant method of warfare.
I was an Army Anti Tank Infantryman 84 / 88 ... we were volunteers not conscripts
UglyBear
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Do you still dream of hordes of T-72s fanning out of the Fulda Gap, and instinctively try to shoulder the TOW?
Ah, good old times... Battle lines clearly drawn, enemy known and respected/feared...
Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
Once power comes back up and I can type on the laptop I have a story about just that from back in my old Cav days in/around the Fulda Gap.
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hehe ... I did a yr in Korea after 2.5 yrs at Ft Carson ... Hordes of NK's streaming across the DMZ ...
In Korea I drove Hummer's at Carson we had M901ITV's I was assigned to all roles - Driver / Gunner / Loader ... I spent more time sleeping as a Loader or Gunner while we were on Maneuvers .....
But yeah I did 4 Field Training X at Fort Irwin, training against VIS MOD Soviet T-72's and BMP's utilizing Soviet Tactics in Motorized Rifle Battalion ... Maneuver Elements or smaller - Company and Platoon .... they used CS for simulated Nerve Gas Attacks
Now it would probably be cheaper just to by Ex Soviet Equipment 1
100-2-1 THE SOVIET ARMY. Operations and Tactics FM 100-2-1 (1984)
FM 100-2-1
Fm 100-2-2
FM 100-2-3
Oh and the TOW is Tripod Mounted ... M72 LAW was Shoulder Mounted and the Dragon has a Monopod
Having seen a Carl G in action I'd have rather had one of those ...
In Korea I drove Hummer's at Carson we had M901ITV's I was assigned to all roles - Driver / Gunner / Loader ... I spent more time sleeping as a Loader or Gunner while we were on Maneuvers .....
But yeah I did 4 Field Training X at Fort Irwin, training against VIS MOD Soviet T-72's and BMP's utilizing Soviet Tactics in Motorized Rifle Battalion ... Maneuver Elements or smaller - Company and Platoon .... they used CS for simulated Nerve Gas Attacks
Now it would probably be cheaper just to by Ex Soviet Equipment 1
100-2-1 THE SOVIET ARMY. Operations and Tactics FM 100-2-1 (1984)
FM 100-2-1
Fm 100-2-2
FM 100-2-3
Oh and the TOW is Tripod Mounted ... M72 LAW was Shoulder Mounted and the Dragon has a Monopod
Having seen a Carl G in action I'd have rather had one of those ...
UglyBear
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IMHO, that would have been more likely to happen and scarier. Even us Soviets were cautiously scared of the NK fanatics — they reminded us too much of the Stalin years.
or Horde of 100 million Chinese streaming across the border
but a good place to use VX Nerve Gas
Bonehead
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Off topic UB but I discovered a facebook group called "Forage Maryland" good group for local wild edibles.