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PeoplesElbow

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Massachusetts has had "hard" boundaries since the early 19th century.
My hometown of West Springfield was settled in 1635 and incorporated in 1774.
Since 1774, 2 towns were spun off, Agawam in 1855 and Holyoke in 1850.

As I recall, Massachusetts has 351 municipalities.
The county governments have very little authority save for the Sherriff, Courts and jails.
The thing I found confusing in MA was say there were two houses side by side one was in one town, the other was in a different town. I was use to a town, miles of trees only along the interstate, then the next town starts at the next exit atleast several miles away.
 

SamSpade

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The thing I found confusing in MA was say there were two houses side by side one was in one town, the other was in a different town. I was use to a town, miles of trees only along the interstate, then the next town starts at the next exit atleast several miles away.
Oh it was weirder than that. I used to live on Newbury St in Somerville. About 40 feet from the Cambridge line. Very narrow street which is two way in Cambridge - but ONE WAY in Somerville. One of the most common sounds there was the sound of people turning their cars around and driving backwards up the hill to find street parking.

Even weirder - a fee houses on the street would straddle the town line so that you could sleep in Somerville but use the bathroom in Cambridge.
 

glhs837

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The thing I found confusing in MA was say there were two houses side by side one was in one town, the other was in a different town. I was use to a town, miles of trees only along the interstate, then the next town starts at the next exit atleast several miles away.

Unless you want fractal borders, not much you can do. A lot of places these houses were in place, or the properties at least, before the lines were drawn, if you tried to zig zag around properties, it would get crazy.

Candlepin is much better.

FIFY :) First time I saw and played 10 pin, I was blowing away the Minneapolis college kids I was playing with. It felt like I had a cheat code :)

Lived there many years - towns are how they function - ask a person what COUNTY they live in - where they may have lived all their life - and they might not know. But they know exactly where the town line is and the entire county is partitioned into towns with no "gaps" where there's no town. It can be weird - for instance, there's a road going to Woburn from Lexington called - Woburn Street. Because it goes to Woburn.

Until you cross the town LINE. Then it suddenly becomes Lexington St - because surprise, it's the road to Lexington. That happens all over the Boston area. And the numbers on the street renumber, which can be confusing if you're delivering things - like I did. And it often happens the ROAD itself is different, because the town will repair or pave the road (or in winter - plow the snow to the town line - but no further).

To be honest - I know that most of THIS county is partitioned into towns or what have you - but people really aren't sure where the lines are, because there's no "identity". I have to go on Zillow and look at the lines to be sure.

Yep, growing up I could name any of the five surrounding towns, but had no idea what county I was in, didnt really pay attention to that.

Thanks for using Lexington Street :) We do have a couple of those, the Hollwood-Leonardtown road, and another up the north end of the county. My wife grew up here and had never thought about that.

Some places here are "towns", like Park Hall, but if its doesn't have a zip code it has no borders. Red Gate, etcetera, even so, all these small towns in MA have a local government, which you don't have down here.
 

glhs837

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Massachusetts has had "hard" boundaries since the early 19th century.
My hometown of West Springfield was settled in 1635 and incorporated in 1774.
Since 1774, 2 towns were spun off, Agawam in 1855 and Holyoke in 1850.

As I recall, Massachusetts has 351 municipalities.
The county governments have very little authority save for the Sherriff, Courts and jails.

The earliest ancestor on my mothers side here in the States came over in the early 1630s and worked surveying and defending settlers from the natives and helped settle Wakefield after getting to middle age and his sons helped settle Haverhill. Another in the early 1800s helped shape Brookline as an auctioneer and "developer", although they didnt use that title back then.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Is it really government's responsibility to provide any type of recreation? Imagine the money that could be saved...
What the St. Mary's County Commissioners have done is basically financed, at near 75% of the cost, on county owned (leased) land, for most likely $1 per year, analogously, a new football stadium with taxpayer dollars, for private use. And here's some more future supportive spending concerns by this statement; "The additional funding is expected to come from a capital fundraiser being managed by the leaseholder, YMCA of the Chesapeake." So this means the entirety of the $22.1 million project cost, or close to it, could be entirely financed by the taxpayers and given to a private organization to build a facility that will be owned by said private organization on county owned land.

And as per your comment. Yes, indeed, why is it government's responsibility? In Dunkirk, the county spent over $2.5 Million to install a splash pad at their park. Ya know? One of those pads you walk on while water comes shooting up from the ground? Why spend that kind of money when, if someone wants to get cooled off, lawn sprinklers at ones house, used to work just fine. And since there is no high density housing in Dunkirk, (god forbid that would ever happen), every resident has the availability and could put a water sprinkler in their yard for their kids to run around and get wet. It's all wasteful.
 
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Gilligan

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. Another in the early 1800s helped shape Brookline as an auctioneer and "developer", although they didnt use that title back then.
My paternal grandfather was born in Brookline. His family there (or near there) went back to the 1600s.
 

Grumpy

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I havent' seen a duckpin lane since i was 15. Last one I went to was Fairlanes on University Blvd and Riggs Road.
I used to bowl on the Pro tour (yes,ducks has a Pro tour and still does). Probably bowled in 2,3 dozen houses over the years from Va through New England until I quit 20 years ago. Bowled in a league at Fairlanes University in the late 60s.
 

Kyle

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I used to bowl on the Pro tour (yes,ducks has a Pro tour and still does). Probably bowled in 2,3 dozen houses over the years from Va through New England until I quit 20 years ago. Bowled in a league at Fairlanes University in the late 60s.
Up until I was about 22 I bowled 10 pin. I can never really get the hang of duckpin. It’s a lot harder than it looks.

And I’ve heard of candlepin but never seen or tried it.
 

Gilligan

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I havent' seen a duckpin lane since i was 15. Last one I went to was Fairlanes on University Blvd and Riggs Road.
Same here...there was a duckpin lane in the small "town" where our bank and a single screen movie theatre were also. Oh..and a skating rink too! We lived wayyy out in the boonies back then....
 

Grumpy

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Up until I was about 22 I bowled 10 pin. I can never really get the hang of duckpin. It’s a lot harder than it looks.

And I’ve heard of candlepin but never seen or tried it.
Bowled candlepins once in Wamesit, Mass and have seen rubberband ducks at a house in Pa but never bowled them. Rubber ducks has seen alot of 300 games, believe that straight ducks' highest game ever is still 279
 

LtownTaxpayer

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Same here...there was a duckpin lane in the small "town" where our bank and a single screen movie theatre were also. Oh..and a skating rink too! We lived wayyy out in the boonies back then....
When we moved to St. Mary's County in the mid 1970s, Esperanza Lanes had duckpin lanes - that was back when the Fletchers owned it. I don't remember them after David Long took it over.
 
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