New World Order

Marie

New Member
I thought you were twisted enough to actually believe the ocean is purple...

Ooops.. sorry, that was judgmental. It's okay if your ocean is purple, equal opportunity here.

No, No Its not ok for the ocean to be purple thats Post Modernism. Truth is truth and theres only one. If I believe that the money in your wallet is really mine your not going to give it to me, because its my reality your going to say I AM WRONG! get lost.
Its not ok to run red lights because in someone else reality there really green trying selling that to the police!
:)
 

Marie

New Member
Tommy, this is one of those things where, when it can mean two different things, the correct interpretation is the one they want, not the one that is probable. Like most of the bible.

To read the bible you should really know some basics about what its made up of. The study of reading the bible correctly is called Hermaneutics.
If your really interested were going to be doing a short study on it at the singles group and I d be honored to have you single or not so you can see how this all works. PM me and I will get you the date were starting It think its the Thursday after next.

Biblical or Sacred Hermeneutics is the science of interpreting the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments.
We have, the five Books of Moses, commonly called the Pentateuch; next follow twelve Historical Books, recording the history of the Israelites from the death of Moses to the restoration from Babylonian exile, and covering a period of a thousand years. Then follow five Poetical Books a drama, a psalter, two books of proverbial philosophy, and a song of love; and after these are seventeen Prophetical Books, among which are some of the most magnificent monuments of all literature. In the New Testament we have, first, the four Gospels, a record of the life and words of Jesus Christ; then the Acts of the Apostles, a history of the beginning of the Christian Church; then the thirteen Pauline Epistles, followed by the Epistle to the Hebrews and the seven General Epistles; and, finally, the Apocalypse of John.

Old & New Testament should not be seperatedBible is a divinely constructed unity, and there is danger that, in studying one part to the comparative neglect of the other, we may fall into one-sided and erroneous methods of exposition. The Holy Scriptures should be studied as a whole, for their several parts were given in manifold portions and modes (polumeowv kai polutoopwv Heb. 1:1), and, taken all together, they constitute a remarkably self-interpreting volume.

Theres a video called 'Herman Who' and then I pulled Stuff out of Milton Terrys Book Biblical Hermaneutics that goes into detail like above.
Things you need to consider are what type of writting it is. IE potery History ETC
Whom it was written to the audiance
Why it was written the purpose, what was going on at the time.
The customs and geographical location.
The authurs intent
Coresponding scriptures so its not misunderstood
Context the whole paragraph above and below so know one pulls a twisted scripture on you and twist a verse to say what they want it to.
I'll probably touch on:
Homiletics: Homiletics is the study of the composition and delivery of a sermon or other religious discourse. It includes all forms of preaching, a sermon, homily and catechetical instruction. It may be further defined as the study of the analysis, classification, preparation, composition and delivery of sermons. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
Exegesis: exegesis is the interpretation and understanding of a text on the basis of the text itself. The word exegesis can mean explanation, but as a technical term it means "to draw the meaning out of" a given text. Exegesis may be contrasted with Eisegesis, which means to read one's own interpretation into a given text. In general, exegesis presumes an attempt to view the text objectively, while eisegesis implies more subjectivity.<o:p></o:p>
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Good Hermeneutics is the studying of the scriptures, taking into consideration the background both historical and geographical, the speaker, whom he is speaking too, the type of text and all corresponding texts to the passage. So as to rightly interpret the text. Exegesis is the exposition of the passage as its understood by the speaker when preaching is done in an expository manner. Homiletics is the study of the delivery of the sermon.<o:p></o:p>
 
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fredcaudle

New Member
No, No Its not ok for the ocean to be purple thats Post Modernism. Truth is truth and theres only one. If I believe that the money in your wallet is really mine your not going to give it to me, because its my reality your going to say I AM WRONG! get lost.
Its not ok to run red lights because in someone else reality there really green trying selling that to the police!
:)
I don't argue against what you are saying... but those who keep coming back with their remarks have decided the ocean is "purple"... I'm not condoning or agreeing, I just know they have decided what they want to believe and no amount of faith, logic, or truth is going to change their minds.

Men and women will believe what they will... I preach Jesus Christ crucified and risen which is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are saved it is the power of God.

For example, the message you wrote on discerning Scripture will be replied to with much words as to what you say is not true... they will not examine it against what they already have chosen, only refute it, dismiss it, and use words of disdain against it. THey are not seekers of the truth, they are men and women looking to make truth fit their desires. (interestingly, they accuse us of this too.)
 

Xaquin44

New Member
For example, the message you wrote on discerning Scripture will be replied to with much words as to what you say is not true... they will not examine it against what they already have chosen, only refute it, dismiss it, and use words of disdain against it. THey are not seekers of the truth, they are men and women looking to make truth fit their desires. (interestingly, they accuse us of this too.)

If the shoe fits ....
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
No Christian that I know of has ever said the Bible was not written by men. What we say is that the Bible was not Authored by men.

Oh dear, another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! Again. :lmao: Merry Christmas, 2A.
 

Starman3000m

New Member
Can any of you theists produce an ORIGINAL biblical manuscript?

Well, actually the "originals" were broken by Moses and discarded. The second copy of the "Original Commandments" to mankind are said to be hidden in an undisclosed location and will turn up when the Third Temple of God is built.
Anyway, here is what was written in the orginal manuscript which has been copied several times and remains in effect:

1. I am the Lord thy God who have brought thee out of the house of bondage.
2. Thou shalt have no other gods besides me.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.
5. Honor thy Father and Mother.
6. Thou shalt not murder.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
10.Thou shalt not covet.

of course there are some variations - but the message remains the same throughout. Which do you not agree with?

Yo - wxtornado! Have presented what an original manuscript would have stated. Still would like to know which of these you do not agree with and if you believe some man really made these up .
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Oh dear, another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! Again. :lmao: Merry Christmas, 2A.

I comprehend quite well thanks. I certainly comprehend the things of the Spirit since they are only comprehensible by those of the Spirit. I find no wonder in that you and those that belittle the faith of Christians have no comprehension of the Bible and the difference between writing and authoring.

Merry Christmas to you, too.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
I comprehend quite well thanks. I certainly comprehend the things of the Spirit since they are only comprehensible by those of the Spirit.

ahahaha

hey, me too!

I'm right because I'm right. Reason? Logic? Debate? Evidence?

all these are wrong because they are wrong.

again, I'm right because I'm right .... I tell myself and others that because I am.

you know, because ....
 
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