No transgender in the Military....

Hijinx

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Many of the jobs learned in the military are carried out of the military and made into careers.

It's a pretty good deal for both parties, and beneficial to society.
 
Christy

Christy

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Gilligan said:
No moron...it's all about the "freaks in foxholes" aspect that is problematic. You LGBT people have a hard time understanding that.
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Just for the record, some of the biggest freaks and perverts that I have ever met have been straight, male, military members. So I think that argument against transgenders serving in the military is flawed and does more harm to the logical argument over why there should be restrictions.

The logical argument is simply the ability to perform the mission. You have to take into account what would impact a combat mission if the necessary medications were not available. I do not know the answer to this. What are the effects of a sudden removal of hormones on one's physical well being? I suspect it isn't good, which is why the decision is being made.

The message could be presented in a more logical, and rational way. I think the tweet was a bad idea, but we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
 
chernmax

chernmax

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Our Military should be focused on Warfighting, not Transgender surgeries (taking up VA time and money) while pumping a human with Hormones, Steroids, and other meds and having to decide at what point do put a military grade assault weapon back ii there hands! Sorry we don't need this #### on the battlefield! Does ZERO for readiness...
 
black dog

black dog

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Christy said:
Just for the record, some of the biggest freaks and perverts that I have ever met have been straight, male, military members. So I think that argument against transgenders serving in the military is flawed and does more harm to the logical argument over why there should be restrictions.

The logical argument is simply the ability to perform the mission. You have to take into account what would impact a combat mission if the necessary medications were not available. I do not know the answer to this. What are the effects of a sudden removal of hormones on one's physical well being? I suspect it isn't good, which is why the decision is being made.

The message could be presented in a more logical, and rational way. I think the tweet was a bad idea, but we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
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Why no mention of ladies that serve? Plenty of disturbed, oversexed nutbags that had no other way to leave daddyhumping Appalachia or Delaware.
 
LightRoasted

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Gilligan said:
LOL..I will have to concede that point. I work with some of them.... ;-p
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Yeah, but most guys are wanting to try everything to get their freak on before they take a bullet. Life can get pretty boring doing only missionary with the lights off.
 
AnthonyJames

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If we had an Army of these we could scare our enemies to death.

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Merlin99

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PsyOps said:
Private companies can spend their own money in any way they want. The government is spending OUR money, all of us who pay taxes. And I'm not saying I'm against the military providing that education benefit for serving; I'm just saying I have a problem with people that join solely for the sake of getting the free education money. I've seen it over and over, most times than I can count, folks coming in getting their degree, then getting out. There is not commitment anyone has to promise beyond their enlistment for getting a free education.
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I'm going to disagree with this. The GI bill is a great incentive to join up if you can't afford college.
 
itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Sapidus said:
That is absolutely untrue. Can you prove that allergy sufferers are barred from
All forms of military service?
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Depends on the allergy, but if it dictates carrying an epi pen.. or prophylactic drug treatment (like weekly shots).. You can NOT join the military..
 
itsbob

itsbob

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Merlin99 said:
I'm going to disagree with this. The GI bill is a great incentive to join up if you can't afford college.
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My question is.. how long would a soldier be undeployable while awaiting reassignment surgery.. pre-op.. then how long would they be undeployable post op??

Are you going to be able to deploy somebody as say an infantryman to an FOB if they are under Hormone Therapy??

For one, it all sounds TOTALLY cost prohibitive.. and a real burden on the Company Commander to plan and schedule everyone else around a Tranny's Reassignment surgery.

I think it's incredulous that today you can join the MILITARY and they'll pay for you to get Gender Reassignment surgery.. TOTALLY blows my mind.

When you can't even get braces while on Active Duty... or even Lasix..
 
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Merlin99

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Christy said:
Just for the record, some of the biggest freaks and perverts that I have ever met have been straight, male, military members. So I think that argument against transgenders serving in the military is flawed and does more harm to the logical argument over why there should be restrictions.

The logical argument is simply the ability to perform the mission. You have to take into account what would impact a combat mission if the necessary medications were not available. I do not know the answer to this. What are the effects of a sudden removal of hormones on one's physical well being? I suspect it isn't good, which is why the decision is being made.

The message could be presented in a more logical, and rational way. I think the tweet was a bad idea, but we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
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how about these arguments, men are only allowed so much hair, women much more. which standard applies to a man becoming a woman? Or the PT standards, men have to perform about 20% higher than women, does a man transitioning to woman get to use the lower standard?
 
Radiant1

Radiant1

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Right now the Army alone estimates between 50,000-100,000 (numbers depend on the source) un-deployable soldiers with only 10% of those expected to be fit to serve in the future. If war readiness and deployable status is truly the issue at stake, then we should get rid of them all, not just transgendered persons, but ALL OF THEM.
 
itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Radiant1 said:
Right now the Army alone estimates between 50,000-100,000 (numbers depend on the source) un-deployable soldiers with only 10% of those expected to be fit to serve in the future. If war readiness and deployable status is truly the issue at stake, then we should get rid of them all, not just transgendered persons, but ALL OF THEM.
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And they do.. they regularly have medical discharge boards that determine ones ability to serve.. if you're not deployable, bye bye bye..

Though during Desert Storm we found the problem predominantly in the Reserves and Guard.. Had units show up where over 50% of their unit was unfit an undeployable, why we had units fighting a war that were hybrids of 3 or more units or strangers.. We also had many 300 and 400 pounders show up that had PERFECT PT scores!! They must of suddenly gained all that weight in the previous 2 or 3 months..


In the case of the regular service MANY of that 10% is due to weight, which some believe are too strict. You can pass a PT test but if your body fat is over 21% (I think that's right) out you go! Pregnancies (which is one hell of way to get out of a deployment).

So yes.. the military is always trying to rid themselves of the dead weight.. ALL OF THEM.

A company Commander is NOT doing the rest of his soldiers any favors keeping somebody in the service that is undeployable.
 
TWL

TWL

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Radiant1 said:
Right now the Army alone estimates between 50,000-100,000 (numbers depend on the source) un-deployable soldiers with only 10% of those expected to be fit to serve in the future. If war readiness and deployable status is truly the issue at stake, then we should get rid of them all, not just transgendered persons, but ALL OF THEM.
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And I bet that most, if not all, of those soldiers are at one phase or another in being transitioning out of the military. Going through MEB and/or PEB.
 
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