not having a college degree seen as a negative thing

[Larry Gude]

Great. :shrug:

Tell me I'm wrong!

 

[itsbob]

No, there is not. Engineers are kooks. There are exceptions, of course but, by and large, kooks.

I got nothin....

 

[itsbob]

There are ditch diggers that have trouble interacting with other ditch diggers and engineers that have trouble interacting with other engineers. It has nothing to do with what they do, whether or not they went to college, it has to do with who they are.

I know a high school dropout, auto mechanic and he can fit in with any crowd you put him in, he is well spoken and you would think he was some sort of professional, but he isn't. I know engineers that have no problem interacting with the garbage man, but I also know ones who are afraid to talk to the guy in the very next cubicle.

I hate to do this, not really, but... Auto Mechanics would have to be put into the Professional Column these days. They're doing much more than lubing u-joints and doing tune ups.

 

[itsbob]

It is my personal experience that the more formally educated a person is, the less social skills they have. Highly intelligent people tend to be fairly lacking in their social development, either by nature or circumstances of their being different from their peers. So it doesn't surprise me that the mechanic is personable, while the engineer is socially awkward. Which is fine and there's a place in this world for everyone.

I think I do ok socially.. but if I don't like you, I won't bother pretending I do!

 

[vraiblonde]

I think I do ok socially.. but if I don't like you, I won't bother pretending I do!

Actually, I wasn't even thinking about you when I wrote that. But it's interesting that you thought I was.

 

[itsbob]

Actually, I wasn't even thinking about you when I wrote that. But it's interesting that you thought I was.

I wasn't taking it as you did, the same way my "you" wasn't meant to be you.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I hate to do this, not really, but... Auto Mechanics would have to be put into the Professional Column these days. They're doing much more than lubing u-joints and doing tune ups.

Auto Mechanic is a very broad brush, there are those that don't do much more than change oil and tires and there are those that diagnose engine problems.

 

[PsyOps]

No, there is not. Engineers are kooks. There are exceptions, of course but, by and large, kooks.

You mean locomotive engineers right?

 

[Hijinx]

I hate to do this, not really, but... Auto Mechanics would have to be put into the Professional Column these days. They're doing much more than lubing u-joints and doing tune ups.

The day of the back yard mechanic who trained himself is over.
If you cannot work a computer today you are a dead duck in the mechanic business.

 

[Larry Gude]

You mean locomotive engineers right?

 

[This_person]

Nothing irks me more than when someone throws something out there that could not possibly be further from the truth AND is readily disprovable.

We KNOW pops advised against going back into Iraq. We know that so, don't even try that crap. Please.

I didn't say that 41 said to go to Iraq. I said 43 was predisposed to believe the intelligence because of his dad's previous job.

 

[This_person]

Right, but it's usually best to not put someone in charge of everything and then let them gain some experience. We gave him the space shuttle and he'd never run an RC airplane.

Right. I'm saying his lack of experience has more to do with his failures than his formal education.

Or, to be fair, it is my belief that each of those two presidents had informal education that drove what we would call their mistakes and they would privately say were successful decisions.

 

[Larry Gude]

I didn't say that 41 said to go to Iraq. I said 43 was predisposed to believe the intelligence because of his dad's previous job.

Right and to me that suggests that you're saying he said "Hey, pop, what do you think about all this? Who do I trust? Who is full of it? Whose agenda is what?" to which I replied his dad said "Do not, repeat, do NOT invade Iraq". To which....the rest is history.

 

[BOP]

I graduated 2003, right after the IT bubble.. BEFORE the bubble GPA didn't matter, you have a CompSci degree you were getting hired. Imagine the surprise when we went to the Job Fair at Penn State and ALL the booths (regardless of degree) demanded/ required a 3.0 (or higher) GPA. One or two of my fellow graduates (there were six of us total my class) had to go back and take some classes again to raise their GPA.

Well clearly that's racist.

 

[Larry Gude]

Right. I'm saying his lack of experience has more to do with his failures than his formal education.

Or, to be fair, it is my belief that each of those two presidents had informal education that drove what we would call their mistakes and they would privately say were successful decisions.

I guess. They say he was actually a professor and has a degree. if they said he'd never even read the Constitution let alone majored in it, that would seem more understandable. Education or no, a French major with no experience can probably at least read it for understanding if not speak it.

 

[This_person]

I guess. They say he was actually a professor and has a degree. if they said he'd never even read the Constitution let alone majored in it, that would seem more understandable. Education or no, a French major with no experience can probably at least read it for understanding if not speak it.

We definitely agree.

 

[GW8345]

There's one way to end the college degree debate, Congressman Hank Johnson has a college degree;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

let that sink in for a second before you start laughing.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I guess. They say he was actually a professor and has a degree. if they said he'd never even read the Constitution let alone majored in it, that would seem more understandable. Education or no, a French major with no experience can probably at least read it for understanding if not speak it.

You can be an expert on something and disagree with it or even openly show disdain for it. Know thy enemy...

 

[GURPS]

The day of the back yard mechanic who trained himself is over.
If you cannot work a computer today you are a dead duck in the mechanic business.

.... work a computer to do what ?

the basics still apply - Fuel, Fire, and Compression

 

[Pete]

I have a degree.