Now can she be indicted????

Midnightrider

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What's the given? Well, we know the information is reported to be Top Secret - reported by non-partisan auditors. And, they looked at something like 40 e-mails, found 4 of them to be classified information, two of which were classified as Top Secret, and the classification is based on what was classified on the date the e-mail was sent.

So, you have some potential causes here: Clinton asked them to strip the classification markings, Clinton did NOT ask them to strip the markings but the people sending did anyway based on to where the e-mails were being sent, the information wasn't marked as classified even though it was and the people sending knew they were classified and sent anyway, or, the information wasn't marked as such and the people who worked for Clinton didn't even know the information should be marked as classified.

Which of those sounds (a) like the most likely scenario, and (b) something that is acceptable to have happened?

I think the answer to those questions depends on who the senders were. Its possible some markings were intentionally stripped and some not.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I know when we had an "event", people's PCs were immediately quarantined, networks shutdown, servers, routers and PCs scrubbed on each and every system the classified email was suspected to have passed thru. It was a 'nothing else is more important' priority.



Code Blue in Chappaqua, NY.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
I think the answer to those questions depends on who the senders were. Its possible some markings were intentionally stripped and some not.

Not knowing what the information actually is, I would tend to agree with you that it's likely some were intentional and some were not.

But, that means that (a) Clinton had a staff that didn't know the classification of information being transmitted over open lines, or (b) Clinton is either so incompetent that she, too, as the "buck stops here" Secretary also did not know the information was classified - meaning she really can't be trusted as president, or that she knew and openly lied when she specifically stated that she neither sent nor received classified information, and (c) it's entirely true that none of this - intentional, unintentional, incompetent, or lying - are all not acceptable at the level of highest cabinet post in the country, and even less acceptable for a president (thus making her materially an unreasonable candidate for the Democrats to put forth).

Wouldn't you agree?
 
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Momma

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The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories

If you want to find out what Bill & Hilliary Clinton are really like, you owe it to yourself to read:

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories
by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (Sunday Telegraph, Washington bureau chief during Clinton years)

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Life-Bill-Clinton-Unreported/dp/0895264080/
(Used copy for 1-cent + shipping)

The synopsis:

Cited by White House press secretary Mike McCurry as the origin of every major Clinton scandal story, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard has done more than any other journalist to expose the truth about the Clintons. Now Evans-Pritchard is breaking the biggest scoop of all: an assiduously documented expose of "the black-water scandals" - the scandals that have gone unreported in the American media, but that characterize the Clinton presidency as the most corrupt in history. Among the secrets Evans-Pritchard exposes: The Oklahoma City bombing as a government sting operation that flew out of control when the stingers were outstung. Evans-Pritchard tells the story that the FBI and the Justice Department don't want you to know. Eyewitnesses to corruption in Clinton's Arkansas - many have met with brutal harassment, physical intimidation, and, in some cases, even suspicious death. Those who survived tell Evans-Pritchard their story. Bill Clinton's involvement in the drug underworld of Arkansas. Evans-Pritchard talks to the smugglers, the Arkansas state troopers, the federal agents and prosecutors, and the young girls who were the victims of "the good times." The true story of Vince Foster's death - what the official report won't tell you, but what eyewitnesses saw, and why the government is being sued for falsifying sworn testimony. In the aftermath of Vince Foster, the shocking story of the murder of Jerry Parks, head of Clinton security in Little Rock. Why Parks predicted his own death. Why the Left was right about Mena Airport: Evans-Pritchard discovers the missing evidence.

I'm a moderate---pretty conservative on some things and liberal on others---and I was never a Clinton lover or hater. Reading this book almost made my head start spinning.
 

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PsyOps

Pixelated
"Those in Clinton's "Inner Circle" May Have Stripped Classification Markers from Documents, Illegally"

lol! No proof given, just "may have".

You know boy, I don’t need to KNOW whether Hillary stripped the classification markers from a document. She held one of the highest positions in this country handling matters of national security. It is absolutely impossible for her to have conducted her business without sending and receiving TOP SECRET information; even on a daily basis. It’s impossible for her to not know that she was processing classified information. It’s impossible for her not to know that there are separate networks in place to handle these specific classifications levels: Unclassified, Secret, and Top Secret; and that you must be sitting at a computer that resides on these networks. People that receive Top Secret clearances are briefed about the handling of classified and the networks that handle them. If they handle SCI (which the SecState WOULD handle) information they are ‘read in’ to those compartments and briefed on how that information is handled. The Secretary of State is not exempt from these briefings. There are laws that require each person with these clearances handle classified in very specific manners. This DOES NOT allow for anyone, at any level to process classified on a private server in their home.

So, stripping a label off an email means nothing to me. She violated so many laws and rules that I don’t think it can be calculated. But this is what we have come used to with you people on the left; you not only explain away dishonesty and violations of the laws by your own; you’re proud of your Hillary having committed such heinous violations of the law and our trust. If I didn’t find this so dangerous, I would find it strange. And it is quite STRANGE that you welcome such corruption.
 

Hijinx

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You know boy, I don’t need to KNOW whether Hillary stripped the classification markers from a document. She held one of the highest positions in this country handling matters of national security. It is absolutely impossible for her to have conducted her business without sending and receiving TOP SECRET information; even on a daily basis. It’s impossible for her to not know that she was processing classified information. It’s impossible for her not to know that there are separate networks in place to handle these specific classifications levels: Unclassified, Secret, and Top Secret; and that you must be sitting at a computer that resides on these networks. People that receive Top Secret clearances are briefed about the handling of classified and the networks that handle them. If they handle SCI (which the SecState WOULD handle) information they are ‘read in’ to those compartments and briefed on how that information is handled. The Secretary of State is not exempt from these briefings. There are laws that require each person with these clearances handle classified in very specific manners. This DOES NOT allow for anyone, at any level to process classified on a private server in their home.

So, stripping a label off an email means nothing to me. She violated so many laws and rules that I don’t think it can be calculated. But this is what we have come used to with you people on the left; you not only explain away dishonesty and violations of the laws by your own; you’re proud of your Hillary having committed such heinous violations of the law and our trust. If I didn’t find this so dangerous, I would find it strange. And it is quite STRANGE that you welcome such corruption.

Exactly.

There was no way she did not know that Secret files were coming in on her server.
There is no excuse for her using her own server.
She could not do the business of Secretary of State without sending and receiving Secret messages.

Anyone who blames this on some fricking label not being attached to an email is either stupid or agreeable to her corruption and violations of the law.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
If you want to find out what Bill & Hilliary Clinton are really like, you owe it to yourself to read:

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories
by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (Sunday Telegraph, Washington bureau chief during Clinton years)

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Life-Bill-Clinton-Unreported/dp/0895264080/
(Used copy for 1-cent + shipping)

The synopsis:



I'm a moderate---pretty conservative on some things and liberal on others---and I was never a Clinton lover or hater. Reading this book almost made my head start spinning.

Thanks! Just put it on hold at the PF library.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Exactly.

There was no way she did not know that Secret files were coming in on her server.
There is no excuse for her using her own server.
She could not do the business of Secretary of State without sending and receiving Secret messages.

Anyone who blames this on some fricking label not being attached to an email is either stupid or agreeable to her corruption and violations of the law.

And folks are focusing on top secret and secret being a problem, but what folks don’t seem to understand is even unclassified FOUO is NOT supposed to be processed on private computers. I can’t imagine anything the SecState does that isn’t in the capacity of, at minimum, FOUO. So, there really isn’t anything that she should have been doing in the official capacity of her SecState duties on anay sort of private network/server. I can’t even imagine coordinating her attendance to a Halloween party as being benign since it points to her schedule; which must be protected for her safety.
 
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Hijinx

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And folks are focusing on top secret and secret being a problem, but what folks don’t seem to understand is even unclassified FOUO is NOT supposed to be processed on private computers. I can’t imagine anything the SecState does that isn’t in the capacity of, at minimum, FOUO. So, there really isn’t anything that she should have been doing in the official capacity of her SecState duties on anay sort of private network/server. I can’t even imagine coordinating her attendance to a Halloween party as being benign since it points to her schedule; which must be protected for her safety.

Exactly. The ones making excuses for her are wrong in every way. There is no excuse.
Any email she got or sent in an official capacity should have been protected by a Government server. PERIOD. End of story.

It's the Law by God. How can they excuse it.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Perhaps someone could clarify two things that have always bugged me about the whole thing -

1. Who on earth allowed her to use that server in the first place? It's impossible that no one at State didn't know that.
2. She deleted 30,000 - about half - of the emails because they were personal in nature. Two things come to mind -

a. Who here working for the government wouldn't get their butt kicked if half of their work email was "personal" and
b. What in God's name is she doing at her job if half her email is "personal".

It's possible I am misunderstanding the use of the word "personal" with the Clintons - it may be she merely meant, it's inconsequential,
like "see you for lunch". But I have to wonder what anyone is doing if they have 30,000 emails of a personal nature over a four year period.
I don't have that many over the last twenty.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
1. Who on earth allowed her to use that server in the first place? It's impossible that no one at State didn't know that.


she is a Clinton - they do what they want

you have the JOB at State ... you gonna tell the boss no, or drop a dime ?

People have a way of dying around the Clinton's
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
It's not just Granny that needs to go to jail.....


Over two years ago, the department claimed that “no records responsive to your request were located”—a baffling assertion, given Reines’ well-documented correspondence with journalists. Late last week, however, the State Department came up with a very different answer: It had located an estimated 17,000 emails responsive to Gawker’s request.


http://gawker.com/state-department-finds-thousands-of-philippe-reines-ema-1724560491?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
 
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