Hank
my war
What? A Gurps/New York Post story is bs? Say it isn't so!
When I lived in NYC I used to wipe my ass with that rag!
Obama wants Marines to wear ‘girly’ hats
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What? A Gurps/New York Post story is bs? Say it isn't so!
When I lived in NYC I used to wipe my ass with that rag!
What? A Gurps/New York Post story is bs? Say it isn't so!
Still I can't wait for the day the Curious George and Moochelle are out of the White House.
Then I can say for the first time in my life, I'm proud to b.e.. a... n... Oh. Never mind. That wasn't me.
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mamatutu
mama to two
Still I can't wait for the day the Curious George and Moochelle are out of the White House.
Then I can say for the first time in my life, I'm proud to b.e.. a... n... Oh. Never mind. That wasn't me.
I was talking to my husband (former Marine) about this tonight. I told him that I worry about even though there will probably be resounding feedback from Marines not to change the cover, they will be told tough poopoo, we are going to change it, anyway. Just like Obamacare got forced down our throats. And, why is it even being considered to change the cover, right now, when our country is in dire straights, financially?
Bay_Kat
Tropical
He's already said several times it's his military, so I guess he can do what he wants. I can't wait to see that man go, unfortunately the next one in will just keep whatever he's got going....going. Hilary. Ugh.
You really can't wait to see the big o go? I say, where will he go?
To another term in the WH?
It is up to the military leaders to stand up to the piece of crap in the WH, or the people will have to.
Obama just doesn't care about the Constitution at all - just whatever he has to plug down his working toilet for his personal constitution.
mamatutu
mama to two
Well, technically, Obama is Commander-in-Chief to the US military under the Constitution. As in, he is the start of the chain of command in times of conflict. But, Obama doesn't understand that it does not make the military HIS military; which is a big distinction. But, why are we surprised that he interprets the Constitution differently?
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
My apologies in advance, Dixie.
My "cover" after the return of the more traditional Navy uniform was the "Dixie Cup."
No offense meant, just couldn't resist the irony.
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
I agree!!
But, but, but he is a Constitutional Scholar! Whose Constitution, I don't know, but that and $3 will get you 2 sausage, egg, and cheese muffins at McDonalds this week!
BOP
Well-Known Member
Do you have any idea of the amount of money the Marine Corps is contemplating spending on mere covers? As of yesterday, a budget still hasn't been passed for FY14, and even when it does, it'll only go through Jan 15th, and it'll be a CRA. In the broader scope, the amount of money they're fixin' to spend on covers isn't a lot of money, even though it is, but it's the idea that a lot of things aren't getting paid for, and they're looking at new covers.
Yes, I read the article, and heard enough talk about it Tuesday and Wednesday. To say that the current occupant of the WH and his administration at top levels had "nothing to do with it" is akin to saying that they had nothing to do with the current deficit and $17+ trillion national debt we currently enjoy as well, which is just another reason why it is incredibly stupid to make unnecessary uniform changes that will cost millions and millions of dollars that are not available.
I'm sure the Marines made this PC decision all on their own to make their branch as gender-neutral as possible, with no insight or head nodding of approval from the WH at all.
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MMM_donuts
New Member
Apparently some of you are unaware of how frequent these uniform changes occur. The Board comes out with recommendations like every year. Marines get to vote on them and then the boar decides what's worthwhile and what isn't. So this isn't a spontaneous thing, it's just in the news because it is being sensationalized.
They've tried blood stripes on the skirts, they've recently been messing with the all-weather coat, and they just redid all the cammies and pt gear within the last decade.
Furthermore, unisex is much easier for supply to maintain.
What's the actual issue here? Are you mad because you think the president has something to do with this? Because guys have to wear something "girly"? Or because you are perceiving this to be a PC issue?
They've tried blood stripes on the skirts, they've recently been messing with the all-weather coat, and they just redid all the cammies and pt gear within the last decade.
Furthermore, unisex is much easier for supply to maintain.
What's the actual issue here? Are you mad because you think the president has something to do with this? Because guys have to wear something "girly"? Or because you are perceiving this to be a PC issue?
BOP
Well-Known Member
I'm irritated because of the cavalier attitude toward spending millions on an unnecessary uniform change.
I'm suspicious that a company that's been in business with the government since 1974 is suddenly going out of business. Either they've suddenly become very inept at management, or Obamacare is forcing them out of the market.
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The new hats are ridiculous for men while looking god for the girls, making men look like French police like Inspector Clouseau of the Pink Panther fame.
I say it is a combination of both - the desire to have a gender neutral military arising from PC. I went through five or six major uni changes during my 25+ years of Navy, active and reserve. Some of them made sense from a safety standpoint, especially fire-retardant and shipboard use.
Ain't nothing wrong with unisex for regular, everyday working uniforms outside of office work, but let male hats look like male hats.
I personally am for a general, standard service-wide cammie working uniform, with differences for combat units that make duty sense. Each branch should be able to keep their traditional rank and name badges and insignias. The services are so intertwined now with all kinds of joint commands and ops where the only real difference should be in the dress uniforms of each branch.
Too many changes were/are just for the simple reason to change things up, and they are all approved by the CinC.
MMM_donuts
New Member
If this were a PC thing by direction of the president, wouldn't ALL often services have to be considering this change?
Yes, the money spending is aggravating and unnecessary but this is what they do. How often are these uniform changes actually NEEDED?
If the maker is going out of business, why don't they just let the females wear the male cover? Does it not fit? I never tried one on. The female covers aren't particularly conducive to buns, I can tell you that. They are also very expensive and only one piece where the you can disassemble the male covers and replace individual parts. It seems to me that would be the cheapest route and would add to the appearance of uniformity.
Although, in my most honest personal opinion, I think the current male cover looks ridiculous on most men.
Yes, the money spending is aggravating and unnecessary but this is what they do. How often are these uniform changes actually NEEDED?
If the maker is going out of business, why don't they just let the females wear the male cover? Does it not fit? I never tried one on. The female covers aren't particularly conducive to buns, I can tell you that. They are also very expensive and only one piece where the you can disassemble the male covers and replace individual parts. It seems to me that would be the cheapest route and would add to the appearance of uniformity.
Although, in my most honest personal opinion, I think the current male cover looks ridiculous on most men.
BOP
Well-Known Member
I'd just like to point out that chicks aren't the only ones who dig a member of the opposite sex in uniform.
http://www.miliwoman.com/USA/
BOP
Well-Known Member
Could be punishment for people having the audacity to criticize his majesty for using a Marine as an umbrella holder.