"Oh, the roof was sloped...."

SamSpade

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Found OTHER sites, but CNN has no reason to help Trump by supporting a conspiracy theory. It's looking weirder.
The kid has these accounts, presumably - evidently no knowledge of how to build a bomb or use a remote to detonate them - nor does there seem to be a trail of how he got them. He bought the ladder himself - other sources suggest he hid the gun onsite, which is incredible, since the SS is supposed to cover and scour for that. His computer and phone don't suggest he ever looked up how to make anything.

In fact, the only thing they noticed was a proclivity to games and coding.

Conjecture ? Loner boy was recruited through games and offered money. And he was either radicalized or stupid enough to think he was going to survive the attack.
 
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GURPS

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Conjecture ? Loner boy was recruited through games and offered money. And he was either radicalized or stupid enough to think he was going to survive the attack.

OMG I hope not .. some Gov drone was going on some months about how the Gov need to ' observe ' on line shooters like Battlefield and Call of Duty as well as platforms like Discord ... white supremacists and Islamist's were recruiting disaffected Youth

but then again with all the Terrorist attacks spurned on by the FBI, yeah I could see the Feds using this .... it certainly IS NOT The Proud Boys
 

glhs837

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My bad - it might have been replayed today on one of the morning talk shows, but it was Thursday night on Jesse's show.

EDIT: Fox updates their feed and the stories disappear, so I'm adding the actual video from the Jesse Watters' show Rep Waltz (and Rep Scalize) were on.



This one has the transcript (but you have to scroll down to find it)


So I will note that this only refers to three encrypted accounts. The word bank is not used. Still interesting though
 
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vraiblonde

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Somebody has to get the axe.

Literally.

I don't believe for one second that kid acted alone. If a 20 year old dipshit can outsmart not only local cops but the Secret Service as well, what does that say about those agencies?

Am I supposed to believe that this kid set up within full view of the whole rally, audience members were yelling and pointing him out for several minutes, and he *still* got off shots because all the security somehow missed it?

I don't believe that. It's too ridiculous to even consider, and frankly it insults me that anyone would try to peddle such a lame lie. At the very least this Cheatle person could give it some thought and come up with a better lie, not just sneer and whine about sloped roofs.

There is no way - NO way - that kid acted alone.
 

Kyle

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Progressives are that stupid, thereby they think EVERYONE else is
Which makes it so entertaining when they tout how "Intelligent, Educated and Informed" they all are! :roflmao:

They should change the Party mascot from a Jackass to Kamala Driving a Short Bus.
 

GURPS

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Which makes it so entertaining when they tout how "Intelligent, Educated and Informed" they all are! :roflmao:

They should change the Party mascot from a Jackass to Kamala Driving a Short Bus.

College Graduates


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Kyle

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BOP

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Literally.

I don't believe for one second that kid acted alone. If a 20 year old dipshit can outsmart not only local cops but the Secret Service as well, what does that say about those agencies?

Am I supposed to believe that this kid set up within full view of the whole rally, audience members were yelling and pointing him out for several minutes, and he *still* got off shots because all the security somehow missed it?

I don't believe that. It's too ridiculous to even consider, and frankly it insults me that anyone would try to peddle such a lame lie. At the very least this Cheatle person could give it some thought and come up with a better lie, not just sneer and whine about sloped roofs.

There is no way - NO way - that kid acted alone.
There's an old saying that applies to cops: "You can tell a cop anything. They won't listen, because you're not a cop and you wouldn't understand cop things. So bugger off, puke dog civilian."
 

Bann

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So I will note that this only refers to three encrypted accounts. The word bank is not used. Still interesting though
The more I heard it explained by Waltz, those encrypted acct could be Gaming accts ir Accts used for some kind of messaging that would not be picked up on here (?). I'm not altogether clear on it.
 

LightRoasted

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For your consideration ...

Literally.

I don't believe for one second that kid acted alone. If a 20 year old dipshit can outsmart not only local cops but the Secret Service as well, what does that say about those agencies?

Am I supposed to believe that this kid set up within full view of the whole rally, audience members were yelling and pointing him out for several minutes, and he *still* got off shots because all the security somehow missed it?

I don't believe that. It's too ridiculous to even consider, and frankly it insults me that anyone would try to peddle such a lame lie. At the very least this Cheatle person could give it some thought and come up with a better lie, not just sneer and whine about sloped roofs.

There is no way - NO way - that kid acted alone.

Even a broken clock is right two times a day. Once if a military 24 hour clock. We will never know the absolute truth, and if they tell us, it'll be wrapped up in such word speak that no one will be able to figure it out.

There is a chance that the kid just got lucky because of the ineptitude of the Secret Service Agency as a whole itself, perhaps not by the onsite agents, (except for those inept women agents). In addition to having non-agency assets on site as well, that, in their minds, do not have it in them to always be on point, in complete defensive protect mode, with absolute situational awareness at all times, as a well trained Secret Service Agent would be.

Or, they, that day's security team/detail, just became complacent? Dunno.
 

GURPS

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those encrypted acct could be Gaming accts ir Accts used for some kind of messaging that would not be picked up on here (?).

I heard some congress critter ? or some news reporter discovered Discord ?

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Discord has been around at least 10 yrs now .... but I guess if you are not a gamer [ Fortnight / Call of Duty or Dungeons and Dragons or other Table Top Game ] or some other Gen Z'er or younger .... Discord has moved beyond gamers

Even the NYT published an article on how Discord has become a social hub for teh newest generation

I will say, NOTHING about Discord is encrypted .... so maybe Telegram, Signal and What's App .... those are mobile phone apps, but if they have the shooters phone the feds have access to those accounts


THE FEDS ARE COMING FOR “EXTREMIST” GAMERS

The Department of Homeland Security and FBI are in dialog with Roblox, Discord, Reddit, and others.

We'll get into the weeds of what the government thinks such content may include, but the report offers some examples. "Researchers have identified user-generated re-creations of mass shootings on the gaming platform Roblox, such as the 2019 shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the 2022 shooting in Buffalo, New York. Roblox officials told us their moderation team reviewed their content moderation tools and adjusted them to block these games and prevent content glorifying violent incidents from appearing on the platform."

Recreations of real world mass shootings (and on a platform with a huge young audience) are one thing, but what may worry some is how vague and potentially over-reaching the US government is about what may constitute domestic violent extremism. Since 2019 it has defined five types of domestic terrorism threat: racially motivated extremism, anti-government and anti-authority extremism, animal rights and environmental extremism, abortion-related extremism, then the catch-all of any other domestic terror threats.

These categories are so broad that people may rightly wonder where the line is between responsible intervention (such as with the Roblox examples) and the potential for Big Brother overreach when someone is having a normal one online about how much they hate the government or the repeal of Roe vs. Wade. To give the report its due, it does acknowledge the big unanswered questions about the friction between the above and Americans' free speech rights, but it's not like the FBI is known for its nuanced approach towards potential extremists: in recent decades it's been behind some shocking lapses and botched schemes, and been accused of entrapment of suspects multiple times.

Nevertheless, this is not going away: the GAO was asked to investigate domestic violent extremists' use of games, gaming-related platforms and social media by the House Homeland Security Committee, and it follows Congressional pressure being applied to various major gaming publishers early last year.
 

Bann

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No idea - I was just commenting on what Rep Waltz (FL) was reporting.
 

PrchJrkr

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What would be funny would be Agent Porkchop trying to reach the shooter's position. This is what happens when you try to diversify for the sake of diversity. You end up not getting the best and brightest. Hell, you very rarely get "adequate". This isn't DEI and democracy, it's shear lunacy.
 

Clem72

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My bad - it might have been replayed today on one of the morning talk shows, but it was Thursday night on Jesse's show.

EDIT: Fox updates their feed and the stories disappear, so I'm adding the actual video from the Jesse Watters' show Rep Waltz (and Rep Scalize) were on.



This one has the transcript (but you have to scroll down to find it)
What's an encrypted account? That's not how you refer to a bank account. Sounds like the kid might have invested in some crypto currencies, most of which is done via services outside the US to avoid regulation. That doesn't point to anything nefarious, it does put another notch on the "he's just an idiot" bedpost.
 
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