okay, I'll eat my words in shame....

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This reminds me of that sound bite where Maher spars with Lemon, who is for AOC to lead the party.
Fact is, this shows that the Left really IS all about optics and none of substance ----

MAHER: They're not asking for AOC.

LEMON: Yes, they are.

MAHER: The people you party with are.
 

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“Wes Moore is the Captain America of Democratic politics,” said Jamal Simmons, a prominent party strategist who worked for former Vice President Kamala Harris. “He’s a veteran, an athlete and a Rhodes Scholar who still connects with everyday people.

Maybe having people who think this way as your strategists is part of the reason Dems live in the Outer Dark...... Hell, Moore can even keep a overwhelming Dem majority state happy.

Accusing conservatives of being Russian puppets didn't work last time, idiot. Don't be Hydras Captain America.
 

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This reminds me of that sound bite where Maher spars with Lemon, who is for AOC to lead the party.
Fact is, this shows that the Left really IS all about optics and none of substance ----

MAHER: They're not asking for AOC.

LEMON: Yes, they are.

MAHER: The people you party with are.

See, and this blows me away. Jasmine Crockett as the new leadership, same. How do they not see that those idiots are the problem, not the solution? I can't tell if they're really that damn indoctrinated and insulated or if they're just selling. Don Lemon isn't the only Democrat I've heard say this stupid sht, and AOC is talking about challenging Schumer for NY Senate. <--which honestly she'd probably win because NY is more than half retarded.
 

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See, and this blows me away. Jasmine Crockett as the new leadership, same. How do they not see that those idiots are the problem, not the solution? I can't tell if they're really that damn indoctrinated and insulated or if they're just selling.

Because they're convinced that one, optics are all that matter. Get a woman, an HIspanic, a gay man, put SOMEONE on the ticket that represents some group - and the Dem voters will line up for them. I think - I hope - those days are over, when even the Dem voters say "ENOUGH! Next you'll run a WINO and a dead cat, just to be 'stylish' ". (<-- Bloom County reference).

But second and probably most important - they think Trump's populism hinges on him being a blow-hard who says outrageous things. They think if they just get a Democrat version of Trump mouthing off they have a winner.

Newsflash - Trump's bragging, insulting and mouthing off is probably the last thing I care about. I care about RESULTS and he delivers them. I don't care if he's a bad sport and laughs at the losers - I care that he does what he says and doesn't blame the other pary because he didn't do sht, which is standard Democrat boilerplate.

If the head coach of my favorite team mocks the opposition and moons them on the field, I don't give a crap. Earl Weaver used to get in the face of umpires and kick dirt on them. But he WON GAMES. And that's why he was there.
 

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Newsflash - Trump's bragging, insulting and mouthing off is probably the last thing I care about.

See, and I care about that. I've been waiting my whole adult life for someone to call things what they are and tell the Commies to sit down and STFU. Half the battle is not taking a bunch of crap from your opponent. When they hit you, you knock them the eff out. That's the only way some people learn.

You'll note that the pantywaists cry big tears when Trump "insults" someone, but they don't say a damn word about the mob that insults Trump, OR when they threaten him and his family with violence. Their outraged decorum is so selective it's just fussy toddler stuff.
 
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See, and I care about that. I've been waiting my whole adult life for someone to call things what they are and tell the Commies to sit down and STFU.
But you wouldn't vote for him if he'd shown he was just talk.

Like I said, if the head coach uses foul language and taunts the opposing team - well that's fun to watch - but kick his ass out if he just loses games.
 

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But you wouldn't vote for him if he'd shown he was just talk.

I might. Punching back is very popular with me, whereas taking a bunch of crap isn't. I admire courage, especially in the face of a mindless mob. Trump stood for the most part alone his first term and very few of his so-called party members dared stand with him against the Democrat attackers. Tells me he'll also stand up against China and Iran and NK and Russia.

You see it as taunting and insulting just for the sake of it, but I see it as a much larger indicator of strong character. You will note that Trump doesn't go after anyone who didn't come for him first. He's that classic "I won't start the fight, but I WILL finish it" guy.
 

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See, and this blows me away. Jasmine Crockett as the new leadership, same. How do they not see that those idiots are the problem, not the solution? I can't tell if they're really that damn indoctrinated and insulated or if they're just selling. Don Lemon isn't the only Democrat I've heard say this stupid sht, and AOC is talking about challenging Schumer for NY Senate. <--which honestly she'd probably win because NY is more than half retarded.
The democratic socialist (Bernie) wing is taking over of the Democrat Party, and the MSM is aiding & abetting.
 
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I might. Punching back is very popular with me, whereas taking a bunch of crap isn't.
We're coming at this from different angles, though. You're seeing someone who doesn't hit back as being a spineless punching bag. Maybe I'm just inherently sneaky and Machiavellian. I'm reminded of that old joke where a trucker in a bar is being taunted by a group of bikers, spitting on his food and making jokes about his manhood. And the trucker pays his bill and quietly walks out. "He wasn't much of a man, was he?" "Well he's not much of a truck driver either - he just ran over all those motorcycles". If you're gonna punch back, hit them where it hurts. Mouthing off without a plan is what got my brother in a wheelchair. It got my sister's idiot boyfriend thrown through a plate glass door and gutted from sternum to groin (he survived).

I used to be a Democrat. A conservative one, mind you but I seriously got tired of blowhards like Jesse Jackson to Bernie Sanders, who just insulted and ran their mouth BUT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. I don't know if you're familiar with the Facebook "WalkAway" movement, but it's full of Democrat "walkaways" whose consistent reason is - they just talk and insult. They don't DO anything. Maybe they think they're bold and brave, but I don't give a crap. I don't care if you're brash - or silent. DELIVER the goods, or I will vote for someone who will.

I admire courage, especially in the face of a mindless mob. Trump stood for the most part alone his first term and very few of his so-called party members dared stand with him against the Democrat attackers.
When does Trump LITERALLY face a mindless mob? He does have the brass balls to have townhalls with people who disagree with him - but his rallies consist of people who love him. Sure he deals with vicious press. I don't think I've ever seen the like. Trump himself has said, success will be the best revenge.

You see it as taunting and insulting just for the sake of it, but I see it as a much larger indicator of strong character.
You're right, but it's a little more nuanced than that. If I can taunt and insult my enemy into doing exactly what I want him to do, that's fine with me - but you usually can't INTIMIDATE such people. You can manipulate such people, and play their ago against them - but they won't back down because you were mean to them. He may be tough with Putin and Jinping, but he doesn't call them sissy little nancy boys with small hands.
 

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It's pretty easy to be a all big and bad when you have the mob behind you. When it's in front of you only a person of courage and strong character can stand up to it.

Look at Chuck Schumer. He was all big and bad, shaking his fists and railing that Trump is Hitler, when he had his gang behind him. But he got on the wrong side of them and now he's on an apology tour, cowering like the craven coward he is. The clips of him being insulted and berated to his face are priceless, and he doesn't dare defend himself or clap back. And he is the SENATE MINORITY LEADER.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, really. I love to see assh0les get taken down by their own gang. I mean, I prefer it when they pick on the wrong person and get their ass kicked, but anything that takes them down is okay by me.
 

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It's pretty easy to be a all big and bad when you have the mob behind you. When it's in front of you only a person of courage and strong character can stand up to it.
And I like those kind of people, too. I like some of our right-wing intellectuals who ROUTINELY go into the lion's den, an audience FILLED with antagonists - like Ben Shapiro - and go toe to toe with them for hours, debating these folks.

Look at Chuck Schumer. He was all big and bad, shaking his fists and railing that Trump is Hitler, when he had his gang behind him. But he got on the wrong side of them and now he's on an apology tour, cowering like the craven coward he is. The clips of him being insulted and berated to his face are priceless, and he doesn't dare defend himself or clap back. And he is the SENATE MINORITY LEADER.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, really. I love to see assh0les get taken down by their own gang. I mean, I prefer it when they pick on the wrong person and get their ass kicked, but anything that takes them down is okay by me.
Just read about him on Wiki. 1600 on his SAT - valedictorian at his high school, Harvard magna cum laude, Harvard Law with honors - not stupid.

Here's what doesn't surprise me in the least - he never practiced LAW. STRAIGHT into politics.
In the House for 18 years and the Senate for 26 years - near as I can see, he has NEVER faced anything resembling serious opposition.

Like most lifelong politicians who suck up to everyone - their continued livelihood completely depends on being in the party's good graces.
They're a lot like the Hollywood they love so much - as long as the right people love you - you're golden. Lose their favor - you're toast.

And that is one of the reasons I DO like Trump - and Elon - and any number of persons in politics who just don't need to be there - they don't give a crap if the "right"people like them, their continued success has nothing to do with public adulation. If they were out of office tomorrow - they'd just go back to building hotels or rockets or running a law practice or seeing patients as a doctor. They don't need it.

People like Schumer - poor bastard - knows whose ass he needs to kiss. He has no power that isn't given to him by the party.
 

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Why shouldn't Moonbeam be gaining with the Democrats.
He is black, he spends like a drunken sailor, he is as left as they come, he may even be bi-sexual for all we know.
And besides: What else have they got?
 
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