Kinnakeet
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I agree with some of this statement especially the part when Whitey first got here.
Over Crabbed, Over Fished and Over Hunted
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LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
The lack of menhaden is so bad, that for years now Buzz's Marina doesn't sell them anymore, either by the whole, or ground up for chumming. They were the place to go if one wanted/needed a bunch of menhaden for bait. Though not sure if that is the actual reason. Could be Buzz's got tired of dealing with them, but maybe someone here knows the real reason? Maybe @TPD knows as he lives in Ridge? I don't even know where to get a good quantity of fresh menhaden for bait around these parts anymore.
But ..... since the new restrictions for rockfish have come about, most likely don't need menhaden anymore until the rockfish population recovers. Seeing as targeting of striped bass has been off-limits in the Chesapeake Bay since April 1. In an effort to protect the striped bass fishery on the East Coast.
Striped bass season in the main stem of the Chesapeake Bay will be open May 16; the remainder of Bay waters, including its tidal tributaries will open June 1 through July 15. All areas of the Bay will be closed to any targeting of striped bass from July 16 through July 31, and will reopen August 1 through December 10. Anglers may keep one striped bass per person, per day, with a minimum length of 19 inches and a maximum length of 24 inches. Though the smaller can be tastier, who's gonna wanna spend time and boat money to fish for only one small rockfish per day?
Omega Protein is the problem here. Without a large enough feed stock, I think, even if DNR goes back to a total ban on catching rockfish as they did in the 1980's, the rockfish population will not recover.
The lack of menhaden is so bad, that for years now Buzz's Marina doesn't sell them anymore, either by the whole, or ground up for chumming. They were the place to go if one wanted/needed a bunch of menhaden for bait. Though not sure if that is the actual reason. Could be Buzz's got tired of dealing with them, but maybe someone here knows the real reason? Maybe @TPD knows as he lives in Ridge? I don't even know where to get a good quantity of fresh menhaden for bait around these parts anymore.
But ..... since the new restrictions for rockfish have come about, most likely don't need menhaden anymore until the rockfish population recovers. Seeing as targeting of striped bass has been off-limits in the Chesapeake Bay since April 1. In an effort to protect the striped bass fishery on the East Coast.
Striped bass season in the main stem of the Chesapeake Bay will be open May 16; the remainder of Bay waters, including its tidal tributaries will open June 1 through July 15. All areas of the Bay will be closed to any targeting of striped bass from July 16 through July 31, and will reopen August 1 through December 10. Anglers may keep one striped bass per person, per day, with a minimum length of 19 inches and a maximum length of 24 inches. Though the smaller can be tastier, who's gonna wanna spend time and boat money to fish for only one small rockfish per day?
Omega Protein is the problem here. Without a large enough feed stock, I think, even if DNR goes back to a total ban on catching rockfish as they did in the 1980's, the rockfish population will not recover.
Bare-ya-cuda
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You have no room to talk
You have no proof they do have licenses or are following regulations. I however have a relative that works for DNR.
I am pretty informed. You however make it up as you go.
Just because it’s printed in their language doesn’t mean they read it or abide by it.
The charter boats are slaying the rockfish!...reporting that they are hitting their take limits within a very short time after putting the lines out.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
While they may, overall, not being over fished, they sure are decimating the stock that try to enter the Chesapeake. Even with the 2016 numbers in the article, Virginia's menhaden landings were 323,146,229 pounds. Averaging a weight of about a pound at adulthood, that at a minimum, is a taking of over 323,146,229 individual menhaden. Smaller weighted menhaden would increase those individual numbers.
While they may, overall, not being over fished, they sure are decimating the stock that try to enter the Chesapeake. Even with the 2016 numbers in the article, Virginia's menhaden landings were 323,146,229 pounds. Averaging a weight of about a pound at adulthood, that at a minimum, is a taking of over 323,146,229 individual menhaden. Smaller weighted menhaden would increase those individual numbers.
ASMFC does not seem to be concerned.
Kinnakeet
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waste of money for 15 minutes of fishing for 1 fish if you ask me.
I don't think the fish I catch with these will ever come remotely close to offsetting expenses...
I don't think the fish I catch with these will ever come remotely close to offsetting expenses...
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Me neither.
Never has!I don't think the fish I catch with these will ever come remotely close to offsetting expenses...
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Me neither.
..your economic prospects for break-even far exceed mine!3CATSAILOR
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That's a good point.
NorthBeachPerso
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Eating brunch at Tall Timbers Sunday morning, saw six charter boats were back in with their limits reached by 0930 (!!). Worked out great for TT...they had a bunch more brunch customers from off the boats. ;-)
3CATSAILOR
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Nice boat.I don't think the fish I catch with these will ever come remotely close to offsetting expenses...
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