Pediatricians dealing with ADHD?

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Kain99

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I watched an amazing show on Discovery on Saturday. More than 80% of all children diagnosed with ADHD have been misdiagnosed. They have a sleep disorder and removing thier tonsils works amazing wonders!

People say, that within one week all negative behaviors completely disappear.

Check it out! Might be something you want to look into.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Are there any St. Mary's pediatricians who will prescribe meds for ADHD? I see Dr. Miller, who will not. The child psychiatrists in the area have been--let's just say NOT SO GREAT.

I hear maybe Sheth or Dillon. Cannot find Dillon in my phonebook though-is he still around?

Thanks!
He's still around. Switching from Dr. Dhillon was the greatest thing that I ever did for my son.
Maybe the reason that your childs dr. won't prescribe mind numbing meds to your child is because he/she doesn't think your child has ADHD

Is there a reason that you are trying to medicate your child?
Maybe she's lazy and does not want to deal with her kid. She could be like the 2 friends that I have that have kids with ADHD and pawn her kid off on someone else.
Have you tried all of the alternatives to medication, such as changing his/her diet?
:yeahthat: My brother has ADHD and my parents took him off the meds and took him to a nutritionist. He's soooo much calmer with the new diet.
It's Dhillion in leonardtown but I don't care him as a peditrician for my child we moved.

Couldn't you just switch doctors. Damn, I've never hated a doctor enough to move.
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
I wish people would stop treating ADD/ADHD as some sort of disease that needs fixing. When you drug these kids you are inhibiting who they are and what they have to contribute. Has anyone ever considered that these kids have a lot going on in their heads that is beneficial? Sure they can be exhausting. But if you bother to really pay attention to them, rather than being distracted by their constant energy, you might learn that they tend to be incredibly intelligent. They have a million things going on in their heads all at once, they're constantly thinking. Why inhibit that?

I have had ADD all my life. When I was young they called it a disruptive child. Well that was true but back then we just had to learn to deal with it, coping skills were somewhat easier to come by back then, not as much distraction perhaps as these days. Nonetheless, as an adult I finally ended up on Adderall and it does help. If a child truly has ADD or ADHD, the meds don't effect them the same as if given to someone who really doesn't have it. I believe in medication as a last resort, diets and other methods should be tried first but don't not give medication is it is going to help when all else fails.
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
My girlfriend has two young sons. One son was diagnosed with ADHD. Rather than put him on medications, she switched him to a gluten-free diet.

It's been about a month and the boy is doing terrific!

That's terrific and only goes to prove how the diet is so important especially with the little ones.
 

Jen

New Member
Are there any St. Mary's pediatricians who will prescribe meds for ADHD? I see Dr. Miller, who will not. The child psychiatrists in the area have been--let's just say NOT SO GREAT.

I hear maybe Sheth or Dillon. Cannot find Dillon in my phonebook though-is he still around?

Thanks!

My son has Dr. Miller/Dr. Reed. He was diagnosed with ADHD and is now medicated after 2 years of Diet changes, 2nd Opionions, extensive testing Etc.
Dr. Valentine is wonderful, he is a Pediatric Behavioral Specialist in Calvert. He is who I did the second Opinion with.
I would recommend you ask for the tests/survey's and have every member in your family, daycare, teachers, guidence Counselor's fill one out and take them back to the Dr. to have them scored. The answers may surprise you.
I was one of those parents that were strictly against medication and felt that I had to do more than just be quick to medicate.
My son has attention deficit disorder, not necessarily the hyperness. I medicated him after I saw the results of the tests and him failing the 1st grade. Since being on medication he is at the top of his class and not a Zombie!!!
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
That's terrific and only goes to prove how the diet is so important especially with the little ones.

Did you know that caffeine works differently with these kids? It shocked the hell out of me when I saw my brother drinking coffee. I about smacked my mom. But no, it mellowed him out. :jet:
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
I watched an amazing show on Discovery on Saturday. More than 80% of all children diagnosed with ADHD have been misdiagnosed. They have a sleep disorder and removing thier tonsils works amazing wonders!

People say, that within one week all negative behaviors completely disappear.

Check it out! Might be something you want to look into.

I agree, but in my case, mine were removed at 4 or 5 and I was still a PITA!!:lmao:
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
My son has Dr. Miller/Dr. Reed. He was diagnosed with ADHD and is now medicated after 2 years of Diet changes, 2nd Opionions, extensive testing Etc.
Dr. Valentine is wonderful, he is a Pediatric Behavioral Specialist in Calvert. He is who I did the second Opinion with.
I would recommend you ask for the tests/survey's and have every member in your family, daycare, teachers, guidence Counselor's fill one out and take them back to the Dr. to have them scored. The answers may surprise you.
I was one of those parents that were strictly against medication and felt that I had to do more than just be quick to medicate.
My son has attention deficit disorder, not necessarily the hyperness. I medicated him after I saw the results of the tests and him failing the 1st grade. Since being on medication he is at the top of his class and not a Zombie!!!

How old was he when he was diagnosed?
 

Jen

New Member
How old was he when he was diagnosed?

7 years. I've had Dr.'s trying to push medicine on me when he was only 4 years old!! I refused and tried all other options. Now that I see how far he has come since being on meds. I feel bad for not doing it sooner. Having said that I do see how alot of Dr's and parents jump way to fast to diagnose ADHD. Like I said, I would recommend extensive testing before medication.
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
Maybe she's lazy and does not want to deal with her kid. She could be like the 2 friends that I have that have kids with ADHD and pawn her kid off on someone else.

Maybe she's just being inundated from all sides to get her son medicated. I know I was highly pressured by the school system to get my son evaluated, with the stong hints of him needing meds to keep him from fidgeting. That may be the only advice she is getting. :shrug:
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
Did you know that caffeine works differently with these kids? It shocked the hell out of me when I saw my brother drinking coffee. I about smacked my mom. But no, it mellowed him out. :jet:

That's the case. If my hubby took one of my pills he would be zoom-zoom-zoom all over the place. Me, it just helps me to concentrate and to be able to take a task to completion.
 

stangbst

New Member
Way To Go Dr. Miller!!!!

This only makes me appreciate Dr. Miller more!! I have brought my children to his practice for over 18 yrs. I LOVE Dr. Miller for the attitude he has with his practice. Feedback I have heard from people is that they either love him or hate him, and that is ok. But a major reason (IMHO) I feel many people don't like him is because he's not a Dr. that rights an Rx every time you walk into the office. BUT I do also know that he WILL write Rx's when he feels the other options haven't or won't work. He VERY much believes in looking at all reasons for the problem & options to fix it BEFORE he picks up his Rx pad. This philosophy doesn't sit well in an age of "fix the problem now because I want immediate result with the least amount of hassle".

My question is to KRB is "What did Dr. Miller suggest for handling you child's issues?" And talking from experience with Dr. Miller I KNOW he does suggest looking at things (looking at diet, environmently, sleeping habits, exercise, etc) and changing certain things BEFORE writing an Rx. Did you seriously sit down & take into accounting of the things in your childs life that could be contributing to ADHD like symptoms?

Please think about it people...ADHD/ADD, when did this labeling system come about? Why I ask this is because (as my Mother likes to put it) I would have been "labeled" as a child if they did it back then. Instead of the option of medicating me to a zombie state (which I sure would have prevented my Mother from living in a state of total exhaustion until I reached my late teenage years!) my Mom had to come up with ways for me to learn to be a productive functioning part of this world. And PLEASE understand I AM, to this date, the true definition of hyperactive. :starcat: Only now I like to tell people that "I must use my powers for good, not evil" when people comment on how I manage my crazy/hectic life.

See I have to focus now...my Mom's solutions...

1. Consistency - this allowed them to always know what to expect and what what was expected of them.

2. Discipline - (whatever form you choose), and understand that one form may NOT work for all kids, so use what form works for your child. Don't threaten, follow thru. Remember consistency. My parents saying was "you earn your disipline and you earn your rewards". And once a child UNDERSTANDS (they doen't need to speak) whatever language you speak then they are old enough to start understanding discipline. Even "Supernany" teaches this!

3. Every Child is Different - so be willing to individualize PARTS of your ideas to make it easier for your child to learn how to learn to control their lack of concentration or bouncing off the walls issues. DO NOT change your life to accommodate them, teach them lessons that enable them work productively. The point is it that your trying to make them understand that they need to learn to work with others, not that the world revolves around them and has to learn to deal with them.

4. Diet - Cut out the junk of sweets/processed food. We all know that our bodies function better without the all the sugar, caffeine, etc.

5. EXERCISE!!!- We all wish that our kids could sit and do something clamly for several hours a day, and there are a couple out there somewhere (I hope). But realistically kids NEED to burn off the energy. Even newborns sometimes cry nonstop for a couple hours in the evening. And Drs. now say thats how they burn off energy (remember someday they will be able to run it off). As a child my Mom would make me run up and down the block 5 times after getting off the schoolbus. I thought it was a game. Later I found out that when I got home, I was "bouncing off the walls, talking 100 miles an hour" so bad, that she realized that she was running around the house following me trying to hear how my day was. By burning off some energy before coming in the house I could slow down enough for her to understand me. Also she put me in gymnastics by 5 yrs old. This is a great sport to learn concentration, self discipline, self reliablity, and burn a ton of energy. Figure out SOMETHING to help your high energy kid burn it off!

6.There is a time & place for everything - Even Supernany teaches the concept. You don't have a problem with your kid running in a park, but don't want them running thru the grocery store. Allow them to act like kids, understanding that they will goof off, tease, and be messy. But teach them you don't do these things all the time. We are humans, not animals. That even animals instinctively or can be taught to control parts of their behavior.


Remember children are not born into this world knowing how to be self-suffient. Just look at their hyproactive, lack of concentration issues like you would potty training. Some kids pick it up in a week, some take years. As the adult it is our job to "figure" a different way to get them to learn the lesson. Would you ask your Dr for an Rx to help potty train your child? No that's crazy. But if your 6 yr old still had issues with "accidents" your Dr could help you look into the reasons for them. It could be a medical issue, but that would be more likely a reason to look at AFTER you have stopped letting them have 10 sodas before bed.

All I'm saying is don't bash the Dr for not going for the "quick fix". It's our parental responsibility to try everything we can to fix the issues before we run to Rx our kids. Dr's are taught to offer advice before meds. If Rx's are needed after ALL other options haven't worked then my heart goes out to you. I am thankful that I didn't live in the age where my parents were offered (or forced, and lets be honest sometimes it's demanded that a child is put on Rx's) this option. The only thing they were "forced" to do was come up with a solution to keep their own sanity. They didn't call it "having to deal with a difficult child", they called it responsible parenting.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
7 years. I've had Dr.'s trying to push medicine on me when he was only 4 years old!! I refused and tried all other options. Now that I see how far he has come since being on meds. I feel bad for not doing it sooner. Having said that I do see how alot of Dr's and parents jump way to fast to diagnose ADHD. Like I said, I would recommend extensive testing before medication.

Doctors should be smacked for trying to medicate a 4 year old. Chances are that the child was just getting too much sugar.
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
This only makes me appreciate Dr. Miller more!! I have brought my children to his practice for over 18 yrs. I LOVE Dr. Miller for the attitude he has with his practice. Feedback I have heard from people is that they either love him or hate him, and that is ok. But a major reason (IMHO) I feel many people don't like him is because he's not a Dr. that rights an Rx every time you walk into the office. BUT I do also know that he WILL write Rx's when he feels the other options haven't or won't work. He VERY much believes in looking at all reasons for the problem & options to fix it BEFORE he picks up his Rx pad. This philosophy doesn't sit well in an age of "fix the problem now because I want immediate result with the least amount of hassle".

My question is to KRB is "What did Dr. Miller suggest for handling you child's issues?" And talking from experience with Dr. Miller I KNOW he does suggest looking at things (looking at diet, environmently, sleeping habits, exercise, etc) and changing certain things BEFORE writing an Rx. Did you seriously sit down & take into accounting of the things in your childs life that could be contributing to ADHD like symptoms?

Please think about it people...ADHD/ADD, when did this labeling system come about? Why I ask this is because (as my Mother likes to put it) I would have been "labeled" as a child if they did it back then. Instead of the option of medicating me to a zombie state (which I sure would have prevented my Mother from living in a state of total exhaustion until I reached my late teenage years!) my Mom had to come up with ways for me to learn to be a productive functioning part of this world. And PLEASE understand I AM, to this date, the true definition of hyperactive. :starcat: Only now I like to tell people that "I must use my powers for good, not evil" when people comment on how I manage my crazy/hectic life.

See I have to focus now...my Mom's solutions...

1. Consistency - this allowed them to always know what to expect and what what was expected of them.

2. Discipline - (whatever form you choose), and understand that one form may NOT work for all kids, so use what form works for your child. Don't threaten, follow thru. Remember consistency. My parents saying was "you earn your disipline and you earn your rewards". And once a child UNDERSTANDS (they doen't need to speak) whatever language you speak then they are old enough to start understanding discipline. Even "Supernany" teaches this!

3. Every Child is Different - so be willing to individualize PARTS of your ideas to make it easier for your child to learn how to learn to control their lack of concentration or bouncing off the walls issues. DO NOT change your life to accommodate them, teach them lessons that enable them work productively. The point is it that your trying to make them understand that they need to learn to work with others, not that the world revolves around them and has to learn to deal with them.

4. Diet - Cut out the junk of sweets/processed food. We all know that our bodies function better without the all the sugar, caffeine, etc.

5. EXERCISE!!!- We all wish that our kids could sit and do something clamly for several hours a day, and there are a couple out there somewhere (I hope). But realistically kids NEED to burn off the energy. Even newborns sometimes cry nonstop for a couple hours in the evening. And Drs. now say thats how they burn off energy (remember someday they will be able to run it off). As a child my Mom would make me run up and down the block 5 times after getting off the schoolbus. I thought it was a game. Later I found out that when I got home, I was "bouncing off the walls, talking 100 miles an hour" so bad, that she realized that she was running around the house following me trying to hear how my day was. By burning off some energy before coming in the house I could slow down enough for her to understand me. Also she put me in gymnastics by 5 yrs old. This is a great sport to learn concentration, self discipline, self reliablity, and burn a ton of energy. Figure out SOMETHING to help your high energy kid burn it off!

6.There is a time & place for everything - Even Supernany teaches the concept. You don't have a problem with your kid running in a park, but don't want them running thru the grocery store. Allow them to act like kids, understanding that they will goof off, tease, and be messy. But teach them you don't do these things all the time. We are humans, not animals. That even animals instinctively or can be taught to control parts of their behavior.


Remember children are not born into this world knowing how to be self-suffient. Just look at their hyproactive, lack of concentration issues like you would potty training. Some kids pick it up in a week, some take years. As the adult it is our job to "figure" a different way to get them to learn the lesson. Would you ask your Dr for an Rx to help potty train your child? No that's crazy. But if your 6 yr old still had issues with "accidents" your Dr could help you look into the reasons for them. It could be a medical issue, but that would be more likely a reason to look at AFTER you have stopped letting them have 10 sodas before bed.

All I'm saying is don't bash the Dr for not going for the "quick fix". It's our parental responsibility to try everything we can to fix the issues before we run to Rx our kids. Dr's are taught to offer advice before meds. If Rx's are needed after ALL other options haven't worked then my heart goes out to you. I am thankful that I didn't live in the age where my parents were offered (or forced, and lets be honest sometimes it's demanded that a child is put on Rx's) this option. The only thing they were "forced" to do was come up with a solution to keep their own sanity. They didn't call it "having to deal with a difficult child", they called it responsible parenting.

That's a very good post but it has a label now, although overly misdiagnosed, because they have a better understanding of it and realize it is not a chosen behavior. Prescribe as a last option only. All that you mention are the coping skills that helped me as well growing up.
 

stangbst

New Member
Did you know that caffeine works differently with these kids? It shocked the hell out of me when I saw my brother drinking coffee. I about smacked my mom. But no, it mellowed him out. :jet:


Dr told my parents to give me caffeine to mellow me out too (because it works opposite). And it worked. Did you know that the same holds true with some meds too! This is why there is such a prob with drugs and kids. Not all are tested to determine if it will do the opposite on kids & end up harming more then helping.
 

stangbst

New Member
I watched an amazing show on Discovery on Saturday. More than 80% of all children diagnosed with ADHD have been misdiagnosed. They have a sleep disorder and removing thier tonsils works amazing wonders!

People say, that within one week all negative behaviors completely disappear.

Check it out! Might be something you want to look into.

Also agree with the misdiagnosed issue. Sometime people (parents, teachers, etc) selfdiagnose kids as having ADHD because they don't want to admit the real problem is lack of discipline. If you look at the commercials of Supernanny at least half the kids could be misdiagnosed as ADHD. But after a discipline is set down the behavior disappears. Many parents don't want to admit that their kids ADHD problems are really lack of discipline.
 
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dm4462

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i have an 8 year old who was just put on meds for adhd we are not happy about it but nothing esle worked we have changed his diet more then once and caffinee makes him worst he has an IQ of 114 and in second grade but he is at a PK level at school. he has been on the meds for 1 week and his teacher has already seen a change in his school work. and he looks alot happier now to. sometime we have to do thing we dont care for to help are children out. and just learn to deal with
 

onebdzee

off the shelf
i have an 8 year old who was just put on meds for adhd we are not happy about it but nothing esle worked we have changed his diet more then once and caffinee makes him worst he has an IQ of 114 and in second grade but he is at a PK level at school. he has been on the meds for 1 week and his teacher has already seen a change in his school work. and he looks alot happier now to. sometime we have to do thing we dont care for to help are children out. and just learn to deal with

Does your child snore? Does he have sleep apnea? Maybe both?

Do you know the long term side effects of the medication that you have your son on?

Did you ever think that maybe you should have him evaluated for a learning disability instead of opting for the "easy way out" and put him on what is equivilant to Cocaine in adults?
 
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dm4462

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Does your child snore? Does he have sleep apnea? Maybe both?

Do you know the long term side effects of the medication that you have your son on?

Did you ever think that maybe you should have him evaluated for a learning disability instead of opting for the "easy way out" and put him on what is equivilant to Cocaine in adults?




my child doesnt snore or have sleep apnea we have already had that check and he doesnt have a problem sleeping is when he is awake and at school he is fine at home. yes we do know the long term side effects of the medication i did my reseach and he has been evaluated by 7 different doctors. i am doing what is best for my kid.
 
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onebdzee

off the shelf
my child doesnt snore or have sleep apnea we have already had that check and yes we do know the long term side effects of the medication i did my reseach and he has been evaluated by 7 different doctors. i am doing what is best for my kid.

Did one of those 7 different doctors happen to be a psychiastrist or where they all primary care/pediatricians?
 
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