Pentagon discussing how they can commit treason

[vraiblonde]

I see court martials in their future.....

And anyway, illegal immigration is, you know, illegal so Trump having the military repel this foreign invasion isn't abuse of power - that's their freaking job. The Dembots can cry and say it is, but it still isn't.

 

[BOP]

 

[BOP]

Pentagon Discussing How to Disobey If Trump Deploys Troops Domestically

twitchy.com

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...



Pretty sure there is, for decades been, a highly classified patriotic special operations unit/team/group that is, has been, created and tasked, with putting down such skulduggery should any President have a need to, and so chooses to, squash any rogue insubordination at such high levels to ensure any such individuals are removed post haste, should such actions come into play. Not by killing, unless absolutely necessary given no choice, but with the highest level show of force as to send an extremely loud public message. (Should the regular removal process not be sufficient.) Also, pretty sure such suborning anti-American behavior/actions against a sitting President in high military ranks would fall under acts of treason and be prosecuted as such, after removal.

Short of all this, I'm placing my money on Trump court-martialing, firing, or forcing the retirement of many a high level military personnel. I also see a complete turn over of the entire Joints Chiefs of Staff with non-woke true patriotic American Generals and Admirals, as well as loudly firing the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd J. Austin.

 

[Hijinx]

There is Posse Comitatus, but then there is also orders from the Commander in Chief.
A wise officer should obey his orders, and let the lawyers figure out the right or wrong of them.

It's weird that this discussion never took place before Donald Trump was disobeyed by Milley who colluded with the Chinese and told them he would let them know before any attack, and then he refused to let troops into Washinton to protect the Capitol. He got away with it because trump was on the way out, but he should have been court martialed. Either the President is commander in Chief or the military is running the country.
There is no way a round that.

 

[Ramp Guy]

For your consideration ...



Pretty sure there is, for decades been, a highly classified patriotic special operations unit/team/group that is, has been, created and tasked, with putting down such skulduggery should any President have a need to, and so chooses to, squash any rogue insubordination at such high levels to ensure any such individuals are removed post haste, should such actions come into play. Not by killing, unless absolutely necessary given no choice, but with the highest level show of force as to send an extremely loud public message. (Should the regular removal process not be sufficient.) Also, pretty sure such suborning anti-American behavior/actions against a sitting President in high military ranks would fall under acts of treason and be prosecuted as such, after removal.

Short of all this, I'm placing my money on Trump court-martialing, firing, or forcing the retirement of many a high level military personnel. I also see a complete turn over of the entire Joints Chiefs of Staff with non-woke true patriotic American Generals and Admirals, as well as loudly firing the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd J. Austin.

I remember being sworn into the Marines in 1966 for the 2nd time at Parris Island. This swearing in was the 2nd time as the first was held at the recruitment office at Fort Meade. The 2nd swearing in was done by a Lt. Colonel and the talk was this is the one that really counted. He stated and explained that we were required to follow only "Law full" orders and he spent time explaining the 2 types of orders.

If push comes to shove, regarding Trump and the Paragon military, it stands to reason that the "law full" order issue will be front and center as a defense of certain personal actions.

Who wins is going be a major story.

 

[vraiblonde]

Lloyd J. Austin

Well, he's definitely gone.

Oh, and bye to this guy:

Trump needs to beg Ric Grenell to come back to his DNI job.

 

[Grumpy]

Trump needs to beg Ric Grenell to come back to his DNI job.

^that

 

[vraiblonde]

Milley

That guy needs to be in a federal prison.

 

[Ramp Guy]

Well, he's definitely gone.

Oh, and bye to this guy:

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Trump needs to beg Ric Grenell to come back to his DNI job.

It will be great to see the "mayor" riding his bike out of DC... wondering if the bike will be seatless or not.

 

[glhs837]

I remember being sworn into the Marines in 1966 for the 2nd time at Parris Island. This swearing in was the 2nd time as the first was held at the recruitment office at Fort Meade. The 2nd swearing in was done by a Lt. Colonel and the talk was this is the one that really counted. He stated and explained that we were required to follow only "Law full" orders and he spent time explaining the 2 types of orders.

If push come to shove, regarding Trump and the Paragon military, it stands to reason that the "law full" order issue will be front and center as a defense of certain personal actions.

Who wins is going be a major story.

So this all comes down to the comments about deploying troops to contain unrest similar to the Summer of Love Part Deux in 2020. Of course, part of they reason they got so bad was that Governors refused to deploy the Guard.

So, in a similar situation in Jan or 2025, if say Minneapolis has rioting and the Gov refuses to deploy the Guard, can Trump legally send in regular troops to enforce order? Would such an order to deploy be lawful to protect citizens lives and livelihoods when its obvious that the state govt has abrogated their responsibility to do so? Seems that historically there have been such cases.

6 Times the Military Was Used for Riot Control in the US

When local law enforcement can't restore law and order, the US military gets the call.

www.military.com

Here's how it went last time...

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/02/867565338/governors-push-back-on-trumps-threat-to-deploy-federal-troops-to-quell-unrest

 

[BOP]

There is Posse Comitatus, but then there is also orders from the Commander in Chief.
A wise officer should obey his orders, and let the lawyers figure out the right or wrong of them.

It's weird that this discussion never took place before Donald Trump was disobeyed by Milley who colluded with the Chinese and told them he would let them know before any attack, and then he refused to let troops into Washinton to protect the Capitol. He got away with it because trump was on the way out, but he should have been court martialed. Either the President is commander in Chief or the military is running the country.
There is no way a round that.

Insurrection Act of 1807 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[gemma_rae]

I remember a dude named Lincoln who used the US Military to preserve the union.

 

[Monello]

As of September 2023, there were 2.95 million employees in the US federal workforce.

gov't workers

There is a lot of fat to trim from that workforce. Like abortion, education should be handled at the state level. Abolish the DOED.

 

[Hijinx]

I remember a dude named Lincoln who used the US Military to preserve the union.

That same dude locked up people and held them without trial.

 

[Clem72]

gov't workers

There is a lot of fat to trim from that workforce. Like abortion, education should be handled at the state level. Abolish the DOED.

Your link says there was 3.44M government workers in 1944 when the US population was 139m people, so 2.5% of the population were federal employees.

Today there are 2.95M government workers and a population of 346M people, so 0.8% of the population are federal employees. That's less than a third of what we had after WWII, and less than half of what we have had for the overwhelming majority of the existence of this country.

 

[Monello]

Your link says there was 3.44M government workers in 1944 when the US population was 139m people, so 2.5% of the population were federal employees.

Today there are 2.95M government workers and a population of 346M people, so 0.8% of the population are federal employees. That's less than a third of what we had after WWII, and less than half of what we have had for the overwhelming majority of the existence of this country.

In the early 1940s, the country was cranking out planes, tanks, ships, bullets, bombs & subs. The assembly lines demanded a huge work force. Plus back then, when compared to today, things weren't as automated.

We also have less farmers today. They feed more people now when compared to the olden days. Because 1940 farming isn't 2024 farming.

 

[3CATSAILOR]

I see court martials in their future.....

And anyway, illegal immigration is, you know, illegal so Trump having the military repel this foreign invasion isn't abuse of power - that's their freaking job. The Dembots can cry and say it is, but it still isn't.

All hearsay from those suffering from TDS.

 

[Gilligan]

That same dude locked up people and held them without trial.

Exactly. That POS ignored the Constitution like nobody before him.

 

[Gilligan]

Your link says there was 3.44M government workers in 1944 when the US population was 139m people, so 2.5% of the population were federal employees.

Today there are 2.95M government workers and a population of 346M people, so 0.8% of the population are federal employees. That's less than a third of what we had after WWII, and less than half of what we have had for the overwhelming majority of the existence of this country.

Far more than we need..or should have.