Phase I, reopening ?

[BernieP]

Anyone catch Heather & T-Bone this morning. Had a guy on who started the protest over the 3-2 vote in Charles.
All the "experts" that testified said it was good to go, the 3 who voted against opening cited only one reason, to stand with our brothers and sisters in PG county.

While no evidence exists, not even the Sheriff can find it, they still accused the group that voiced their displeasure with the vote of being racist and making threats. The local version of Al Sharpton apparently comes out the winner. Once again, you can only be critical of what a straight white man does, otherwise you should be arrested.

Add this to the 101 reasons to keep out of Chuckles County and take my business else where.

Charles County Sheriff's Office Announcement about the protest

Notice the "threats" were reported but not confirmed.
Red Flag type reaction, no proof, just crackdown on the offenders.

 

[mitzi]

I'm not trying to bust on you - really, I'm not

I don't think you are. We wear our seat belts to try and avoid serious injuries if in an accident. I say "try", because if someone slams me head on or t-bones me, I'm not going to make it. I could avoid cancer if I stopped smoking, but I don't. But now I can't smoke or even vape outside in the open air at a park even if I stay away others. That's another topic to argue about.
I don't like a lot of these laws and they're all for votes. I don't agree with shutting everything down for this. For 3 weeks, we didn't have to wear masks in the stores that were open. Then suddenly, we do. It made no sense. I honestly probably wouldn't wear one, depending on where I was going into. Now people are freaking out because "they" say you catch it in your eyes. People are flipping out. I guess they don't know you catch any virus if you touch your eye. It's common sense and I've seen a big lack of that.
I'll still lean to believing people I know in health care who are treating patients and someone who had it before what I read online. I'll do what I can to avoid catching it. That's just me.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

I'm more concerned about the filthy, germ infested gas pump handle and was long before this corona started. I always kept wipes in the car to wipe my hands off. The handle makes my hand stink. Why wear a mask at the gas pump. Mine gets pulled off as soon as I get out of the store. Why have it on in the parking lot. I try to get in and out of the store as fast as I possibly can because I can't stand wearing it. I know I argue on here about the seriousness of the virus but I'm not Ms. Paranoid putting a mask on before I leave the house.

It’s not about your health.
When the State tells you it’s safe to go to Home Depot or Lowes to buy a sponge but dangerous to go and buy a flower, it’s not about your health.
When the State shuts down millions of private businesses but doesn’t lay off a single government employee, it’s not about your health.
When the State bans dentists because its unsafe, but deems an abortion visit is safe, it’s not about your health.
When the State prevents you from buying cucumber seeds because it’s dangerous, but allows personal lottery ticket sales, it’s not about your health.
When the State tells you it’s dangerous to go golf alone, fish alone or be in a motor boat alone, but Governors can get their stage make-up done & hair done for 5 TV appearances a week, it’s not about your health.
When the state puts you IN a jail cell for walking in a park with your child because it’s too dangerous but lets criminals OUT of jail cells for their health – it’s not about your health.
When the state tells you it’s too dangerous to get treated by a doctor for chiropractic or physical therapy treatments yet deems a liquor store essential – it’s not about your health.
When the State lets you go to the grocery store or hardware store but is demanding mail-in voting – it is definitely not, about your health.
WAKE UP PEOPLE… If you think any of this BS is about your health, you’re a fool!! Please open your eyes & stop being lead like blind sheep to slaughter.

 

[PrchJrkr]

We had a man pick up dog food last week and he had flip flops on. His toenails were painted blue.
Alrighty then! A first for all of us!

I have a slight fungus problem, but I was told by the doc to let them breathe.

you sure that was polish and not fungus

Thank you! You get it!

 

[PrchJrkr]

I'm more concerned about the filthy, germ infested gas pump handle and was long before this corona started. I always kept wipes in the car to wipe my hands off. The handle makes my hand stink. Why wear a mask at the gas pump. Mine gets pulled off as soon as I get out of the store. Why have it on in the parking lot. I try to get in and out of the store as fast as I possibly can because I can't stand wearing it. I know I argue on here about the seriousness of the virus but I'm not Ms. Paranoid putting a mask on before I leave the house.

I really need to be more aware. I never even think before I grab the nozzle, except when getting diesel. I'm used to gasoline smell, but hate to get diesel on my hands. I never even think about what the last person may have left behind on the handle.

 

[mitzi]

I really need to be more aware. I never even think before I grab the nozzle, except when getting diesel. I'm used to gasoline smell, but hate to get diesel on my hands. I never even think about what the last person may have left behind on the handle.

I think I got like this from where I've worked. In hospitals, nursing homes and in food service. Always wash those hands!

 

[mitzi]

I'm a hand washer - after I eat, after I smoke, after I go bafroom, when I cook, when it's hot and sweaty.....sanitizer can suck it, but I love a good wash up with nice soap.

 

[mitzi]

the easiest way to sanitize the handle is to use a lighter, run the flame over it a few times and it's sterile.

I'll be sure to remember that

 

[PrchJrkr]

I think I got like this from where I've worked. In hospitals, nursing homes and in food service. Always wash those hands!

I wear nytril gloves at work 90% of the time and wash my hands religiously. I even open business doors touching them where others are less likely to have touched, but when it comes to gas pumps...

 

[Bann]

Dr SCott Atlas is on Martha McCallum's show RIGHT NOW -

 

[Bann]

I gave them the best "**** you" look that I could muster.

 

[Bann]

It's interesting how different areas have different ways. In NB maybe 10% of people in the stores are wearing masks, and most of them are employees. Yesterday at Freiheit, nobody was wearing a mask. Saturday out on the river and in the Float House, nobody was wearing a mask, not even the employees.

Yet my understanding is that in SoMD, pretty much everyone is wearing their little mask and will give you the stink eye if you don't.

I have to at work when others are around. I haz rules.

And yeah, we have to wear them in the stores...or you can't enter.

 

[Bann]

Dr SCott Atlas is on Martha McCallum's show RIGHT NOW -

From his latest article:

Basic science underlying a viral pandemic is absolutely critical. But now is the time for the design of sound public policy — and that involves a far broader formulation than a single-minded focus on stopping COVID-19 at all costs.

Policymakers and the public have not received several key messages that are critical to alleviate fear and guide a safe reopening of society. That has led to a gross failure in policy at the state level:

• There has been a failure to remind everyone that the stated goal of the policy — total lockdown and whole-population isolation — has been accomplished in most of the United States, including the epicenter of New York. Specifically, two curves, hospitalizations per day and deaths per day, have flattened. The goal was to prevent hospital overcrowding and, aside from a few in the New York area, hospitals were not overcrowded. Today, most hospitals stand under-filled, necessitating layoffs of personnel. More importantly, it was never a policy goal to eliminate all cases of COVID-19. That is impossible, unnecessary and illogical, when 99 percent of infected people have no significant illness from it.

Adding to Dr. Fauci’s diagnosis: The critical case for ending our shutdown

The total lockdown may have been justified at the start of this pandemic, but it must now end — smartly, without irrational requirements contrary to medical science, common sense and logic.

thehill.com

 

[Bann]

More from the article

There has been a failure to reassure everyone that we fully anticipate more cases will occur, whether we test or not, with continuing relaxation of today’s isolation. Since millions of people have the highly contagious infection, and half are entirely asymptomatic, that spread is fully expected. Even though we will see headlines sensationalizing the next projection, the models are already set to adjust upward for less strict isolation. We also know those same models will project more deaths, because they extrapolate from what happened in the past. Governors rushed to confine everyone in low-risk groups, yet failed to protect nursing homes, the one group needing strict isolation and testing from day one. Due to that inexplicable error, nursing home residents constitute most of the deaths in many states and more than a third nationwide. The coming projection uptick is not a cause for fear or panic. It only reinforces the need for new policies targeted to specifically protect that clearly defined high-risk group.

Adding to Dr. Fauci’s diagnosis: The critical case for ending our shutdown

The total lockdown may have been justified at the start of this pandemic, but it must now end — smartly, without irrational requirements contrary to medical science, common sense and logic.

thehill.com

 

[Bann]

A few more points:

There has been a failure to educate the public that the overall fatality rate is not only far lower than previously thought but is extremely low in almost everyone other than the elderly.

There has been a failure to clarify to parents the truth about the extremely low risk to children, and that has accompanied a gross failure to offer a rational medical perspective regarding schools reopening.

Americans must try to accept what all doctors know: Exceptions exist with virtually every infection, but those do not outweigh the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Exceptions exist in this infection, some even tragic, including reports of an extremely rare disorder similar to the rare Kawasaki disease that occurs every year in about 2,000 to 4,000 children in the U.S. Public statements by scientists and the media that sensationalize these extremely rare instances are particularly harmful, because they instill undue fear and provoke extraordinarily harmful, misguided policies from people who lack a medical perspective.

 

[Bann]

And finally, this:

We must not forget that total lockdown — not the virus — is generating catastrophic harms. Restricting other medical care and instilling fear in the public is creating a massive health disaster, in addition to severe economic harms that could generate a world poverty crisis.

 

[mitzi]

If I may ...


It’s not about your health.
When the State tells you it’s safe to go to Home Depot or Lowes to buy a sponge but dangerous to go and buy a flower, it’s not about your health.
When the State shuts down millions of private businesses but doesn’t lay off a single government employee, it’s not about your health.
When the State bans dentists because its unsafe, but deems an abortion visit is safe, it’s not about your health.
When the State prevents you from buying cucumber seeds because it’s dangerous, but allows personal lottery ticket sales, it’s not about your health.
When the State tells you it’s dangerous to go golf alone, fish alone or be in a motor boat alone, but Governors can get their stage make-up done & hair done for 5 TV appearances a week, it’s not about your health.
When the state puts you IN a jail cell for walking in a park with your child because it’s too dangerous but lets criminals OUT of jail cells for their health – it’s not about your health.
When the state tells you it’s too dangerous to get treated by a doctor for chiropractic or physical therapy treatments yet deems a liquor store essential – it’s not about your health.
When the State lets you go to the grocery store or hardware store but is demanding mail-in voting – it is definitely not, about your health.
WAKE UP PEOPLE… If you think any of this BS is about your health, you’re a fool!! Please open your eyes & stop being lead like blind sheep to slaughter.

I have never once said I supported the lock down. A lot of the rules don't make sense. I have argued that it's not like the regular seasonal flu.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have to at work when others are around. I haz rules.

And yeah, we have to wear them in the stores...or you can't enter.

I have my super cute boho bandeau collection and I usually wear one as a necklace in case I need an emergency hair tie. They'd also make a good face cover should some place require one, but so far none have.

 

[Bann]

I have my super cute boho bandeau collection and I usually wear one as a necklace in case I need an emergency hair tie. They'd also make a good face cover should some place require one, but so far none have.

Good idear!

 

[Bann]

I have my super cute boho bandeau collection and I usually wear one as a necklace in case I need an emergency hair tie. They'd also make a good face cover should some place require one, but so far none have.

BTW, your governor was just on Hannnity and was talking about how well Texas' re-opening was going.