Pete
Repete
Same here when I saw Hootie from Hootie and the Blow fish's infamous burger King commercial the first time.
Plane Crash Survivor: Heaven/Hell Experience
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Same here when I saw Hootie from Hootie and the Blow fish's infamous burger King commercial the first time.
Xaquin44
New Member
Are you kidding?
lol
Obviously they are completely different.
One guy is dead the other is alive.
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
Radiant1
Soul Probe
I almost wish I could see things in black and white like you do, it would make life easier.
There's permanently dead and there's clinically dead. Some who are declared clinically dead remain that way and some who don't are alive to tell about it. :shrug:
How long does one have to be "dead" to be dead?
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
How long does one have to be "dead" to be dead?
I think the skeptic's argument is that if you end up alive, you were never dead in the first place, by the very definition of the word "dead".
Xaquin44
New Member
I almost wish I could see things in black and white like you do, it would make life easier.
There is no grey line here.
You have two options.
Dead and Alive.
This is not a dificult concept unless maybe you are Kevin Bacon.
maybe.
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
Toxick
Splat
I'm not talking about the end result. Believe it or not, I am cognizent of the fact that if you are alive, you are not dead.
Cut me some ####ing slack.
I was referring to that 5-10 minute window between flat-line and resuscitation. During that small interval where their experiences are similar, is the cancer patient any deader than the accident victim?
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
Yes.
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
But the answer to his question is "yes", the cancer patient is "deader" than the accident victim
Xaquin44
New Member
But the answer to his question is "yes", the cancer patient is "deader" than the accident victim
I forgot who died and who lived and didn't feel like scrolling back hehe.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
I almost wish I could see things in black and white like you do, it would make life easier.
There's permanently dead and there's clinically dead. Some who are declared clinically dead remain that way and some who don't are alive to tell about it. :shrug:
How long does one have to be "dead" to be dead?
Depends on your location, who your doctor is, who your rescue squad team is, and whether you have DNR, or other contributing factors. The standard rule of thumb is a non-beating heart for two or more minutes or completely ceased brain activity. The medical thought is that they can revive your heart even after a longer period of time, but doubt they can revive your brain activity. So you may be legally pronounced dead, even though doctors still work on you, and may even bring your heartbeat back but your brain activity may still cease or be damaged.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
Actually, I think my concept is difficult for you to grasp. Actually, I think it's difficult for most to grasp. I honestly believe I died, was dead, and was sent back to continue my life for reasons beyond my own, and am now alive and thankful. Therefore, I see more options than you. I am not disrespecting anyone who has passed away. I know I will too cease to exist in this life. And that is perfectly okay with me. I also know that the reasons people pass away are varied and many, and the answer as to why they pass on while others live, well, I can give my opinions. Strong opinions, but nobody ever seems to really want to listen. However, I know more now than I ever knew before and I say things on death and the afterlife that I truly and sincerely believe in the fiber of my being. Things I never believed or even thought about before. I was dead, now I am alive, and I mean that on so many different levels. Yes I had a "near-death experience" but to me it was a real intense thing that will never leave me and using the words in quotes makes it seems like a trivial thing, when it totally changed who I am today from who I was before. I was reborn for lack of a better vocabulary to describe it all. So, to you attackers and nay-sayers, I can only say, until you die, you just will have no clue. And I hope you to get the opportunity to come back after death. It opens your heart in such profound ways.
