Planned Parenthood

[C6R_Mag]

nah your right. it's better these unfit parents keep pumping out children. That way they can raise them to do the same. Then when we have an overcrowded earth and food and resources are scarce and these 8th generation welfare family's are still begging you to help them we can all, with a smile, give them more hand-outs.

...better yet, have these kids raised by abusive parents that didn't want them. That way these kids can grow up abusers and are all twisted and messed up in the head...then they still don't contribute to society. If they are lucky enough to be truly f***ed up they will just kill a few people at a young age and spend their lives in jail....yet again living off of our tax money.

 

[This_person]

You can bet I have no use for this abortion mill.

They should change the name to Infanticide Inc.
Their Motto: You conceive, we relieve.

How do human beings work at an abortion mill? How do they look one minute with ultra sound, upon a perfectly growing little child in its mothers womb, and in a flash that child is murdered. Torn to shreds, its little hands and feet removed and tossed into a plastic trash bag for disposal like the entrails and scales of a cleaned fish, or perhaps sold to some stem cell researcher who thinks they can produce life on their own.

Many women have gone thru abortions and suffer mentally for the rest of their lives. Others go through it several times, and suffer no pangs whatsoever, they consider it merely another decision in their lives that makes it easier on themselves.

We prosecute a frightened child mother for tossing her child in a dumpster to die while calling another person who kills by the dozen a Doctor.

All that.

 

[This_person]

it's everyone's personal choice that they have to live with. Who are you to say what they can do with their body?

Most of us against abortion are not against what people do with their own body. It's the killing of the little human they chose to put inside their body, implying through that choice that they'd provide it with proper care, that we object to. Murder and all that.

 

[Radiant1]

1.not finding out....being raped and getting pregnant from it.

2. we are talking a difference of almost 30 years now. not a few weeks. having been done before i was born...would i be here to really know the difference?

Nope, you wouldn't exist any longer by no choice of your own, which is no different than having been murdered by a gun at the age of 30; alive is alive and dead is dead. You can't answer the question honestly and keep to your ideology can you?

Would you want your mother to be a rape victim AND a murderer?

Would your loved ones want someone who murdered you at age 30+ to pay for it with prison?

nah your right. it's better these unfit parents keep pumping out children. That way they can raise them to do the same. Then when we have an overcrowded earth and food and resources are scarce and these 8th generation welfare family's are still begging you to help them we can all, with a smile, give them more hand-outs.

...better yet, have these kids raised by abusive parents that didn't want them. That way these kids can grow up abusers and are all twisted and messed up in the head...then they still don't contribute to society. If they are lucky enough to be truly f***ed up they will just kill a few people at a young age and spend their lives in jail....yet again living off of our tax money.

You say that as if people can't/won't overcome their childhood/parenting. I know plenty of people who have, and some who haven't. I also know people who have become the "dregs of society" who had a perfectly happy/healthy childhood. :shrug:

So, do you think you deserved to live since your parents were perfect and you became a taxpayer? And who decides whether your parents are good enough? Someone like you? Someone like me? Margaret Sanger? Hitler? Think about it.

 

[C6R_Mag]

well im going to end here with agree to disagree. your either for it or your against it. there is a very, very thin line of in between.

i'm not agreeing with the ideals of the person in the article, im just saying im PRO-choice and you won't change what i believe. As you are pro-life and no one will change that either.


I just don't like the fact that people put their nose in business that has nothing to do with them.

 

[Radiant1]

I just don't like the fact that people put their nose in business that has nothing to do with them.

Some of us feel the need to take up for victims, especially those who are voiceless/helpless, but if you think it's putting our nose in someone else's business than I for one won't help or call the cops when someone tries to murder you, k?

 

[C6R_Mag]

Nope, you wouldn't exist any longer by no choice of your own, which is no different than having been murdered by a gun at the age of 30; alive is alive and dead is dead. You can't answer the question honestly and keep to your ideology can you?
Would you want your mother to be a rape victim AND a murderer?
Would your loved ones want someone who murdered you at age 30+ to pay for it with prison?
You say that as if people can't/won't overcome their childhood/parenting. I know plenty of people who have, and some who haven't. I also know people who have become the "dregs of society" who had a perfectly happy/healthy childhood. :shrug:
So, do you think you deserved to live since your parents were perfect and you became a taxpayer? And who decides whether your parents are good enough? Someone like you? Someone like me? Margaret Sanger? Hitler? Think about it.

If you found out your conception was due to rape would you off yourself?

to go back to what you said originally, you said off myself. suicide is different than murder. that is why i stated, how would i know the difference.

if i never lived what would i care what my mother is?

and i agree with you that if i was murdered it was not my choice and what difference would it make to me. I would be dead! i wouldn't care. im not scared to be dead... don't confuse this with being scared to die. i have no opinion when im dead, but being alive now, i don't want to leave behind loved ones.

 

[C6R_Mag]

Some of us feel the need to take up for victims, especially those who are voiceless/helpless, but if you think it's putting our nose in someone else's business than I for one won't help or call the cops when someone tries to murder you, k?

you will neither be there or care when i am murdered. don't act like you will. so it goes back to what business of yours will it be?

 

[This_person]

so are you for a 16 year old girl giving birth to a child that was conceived by a 50 year old rapist?

why should she have to deal with that?

Why do women have abortions?

REASONS FOR ABORTIONS: COMPILED ESTIMATES

• rape - 0.3 % (0.1-0.6 %)

• incest - 0.03 % (<0.1 %)

• physical life of mother - 0.2 % (0.1-0.3 %)

• physical health of mother - 1.0 % (0.1-3 %)

• fetal health - 0.5 % (0.1-1.0 %)

• mental health of mother - depends on definition

• 
  "personal choice" - 98% (78-99 %)

• too young/immature/not ready for responsibility - (32 %)

• economic - 25% (21-28 %)

• to avoid adjusting life - (16 %)

• mother single or in poor relationship - (12-13 %)

• enough children already - (4-8 %)

So, with a little knowledge that rape, incest, mother's health/life, and baby's health/life account for around 2% of the abortions performed, would you agree that around 98% of the abortions performed should be stopped if those of us who disagree with abortion allow for those less than 2%?

 

[This_person]

nah your right. it's better these unfit parents keep pumping out children. That way they can raise them to do the same. Then when we have an overcrowded earth and food and resources are scarce and these 8th generation welfare family's are still begging you to help them we can all, with a smile, give them more hand-outs.

...better yet, have these kids raised by abusive parents that didn't want them. That way these kids can grow up abusers and are all twisted and messed up in the head...then they still don't contribute to society. If they are lucky enough to be truly f***ed up they will just kill a few people at a young age and spend their lives in jail....yet again living off of our tax money.

At what age would you say bad parenting is okay to be ended by murder? First trimester? Second? Third? "Terrible two's"? Second grade? 17 years old?

Because, you're proving my point - people kill their children because they're (potentially) bad parents. That's not a reason to kill a child, just so you know.

 

[C6R_Mag]

personal choice" - 98% (78-99 %)
too young/immature/not ready for responsibility - (32 %)
economic - 25% (21-28 %)
to avoid adjusting life - (16 %)
mother single or in poor relationship - (12-13 %)
enough children already - (4-8 %)

these seem to fall under the none of your business category again.

 

[C6R_Mag]

At what age would you say bad parenting is okay to be ended by murder? First trimester? Second? Third? "Terrible two's"? Second grade? 17 years old?

Because, you're proving my point - people kill their children because they're (potentially) bad parents. That's not a reason to kill a child, just so you know.

ok your right, a homeless prostitute that is addicted to drugs can be a great mother.

 

[This_person]

personal choice" - 98% (78-99 %)
too young/immature/not ready for responsibility - (32 %)
economic - 25% (21-28 %)
to avoid adjusting life - (16 %)
mother single or in poor relationship - (12-13 %)
enough children already - (4-8 %)

these seem to fall under the none of your business category again.

You didn't answer my question.

However, what murders should be someone else's business? If I felt an economic impact due to all people who absorb more tax money than pay, should I be okay to kill them for "economic reasons"?

 

[This_person]

ok your right, a homeless prostitute that is addicted to drugs can be a great mother.

A middle aged, affluent housewife who's not addicted to anything can be a crappy mother. Her husband can be a crappy father. The drug addicted prostitute can be a great mother, or a crappy mother.

Parenting skills are not the question. The right of killing other people is the question.

You didn't answer the question in this post, either

At what age is the murder murder instead of a "choice"?

 

[Radiant1]

to go back to what you said originally, you said off myself. suicide is different than murder. that is why i stated, how would i know the difference.

if i never lived what would i care what my mother is?

The point was would you not be glad to be alive? Or, would you think you had deserved to die simply because your sperm donor was a rapist?

But since you are alive, would you want your mother to be a victim of rape AND a murderer?

You still can't/won't answer those questions eh?

you will neither be there or care when i am murdered. don't act like you will. so it goes back to what business of yours will it be?

I may or not be there if it were to happen, and if I were I would care, but oddly enough you wouldn't want me to because afterall it's none of my business.

 

[C6R_Mag]

You didn't answer my question.

However, what murders should be someone else's business? If I felt an economic impact due to all people who absorb more tax money than pay, should I be okay to kill them for "economic reasons"?

to answer your question..i wont agree with you.

you all can keep twisting what i'm saying to fit your needs. i don't care. We are not saying people are being told they can't have children. If you ask me, we should tell people they can't and there should be a limit to how many too!we are not going out on a manhunt to exterminate people.

maybe you havent felt the impact because people are allowed this option which has prevented an effect.

im not trying to argue that i am right your are wrong.

i'm saying it is CHOICE and you are no one to stop it.

 

[C6R_Mag]

The point was would you not be glad to be alive? Or, would you think you had deserved to die simply because your sperm donor was a rapist?

But since you are alive, would you want your mother to be a victim of rape AND a murderer?

You still can't/won't answer those questions eh?



I may or not be there if it were to happen, and if I were I would care, but oddly enough you wouldn't want me to because afterall it's none of my business.

being that i'm alive...my mother is neither. and if i were not...what would i care. this plainly answers your question.

 

[This_person]

to answer your question..i wont agree with you.

you all can keep twisting what i'm saying to fit your needs. i don't care. We are not saying people are being told they can't have children. If you ask me, we should tell people they can't and there should be a limit to how many too!we are not going out on a manhunt to exterminate people.

maybe you havent felt the impact because people are allowed this option which has prevented an effect.

im not trying to argue that i am right your are wrong.

i'm saying it is CHOICE and you are no one to stop it.

And, we're not saying people are being told they HAVE to have children. The choice comes at the time of intercourse, not once the rabbit dies. The choice is going to bed with someone. It is NOT okay to kill someone because they're an inconvinience. For the record, for those two percent (or less) of abortions that occur because they're from rape, incest, or for the life/health of the mother - I'll buy those might be reasonable as a compromise.

And, yes, I've been personally effected. I've had a baby of mine killed without my fore-knowledge or permission.

 

[Radiant1]

being that i'm alive...my mother is neither. and if i were not...what would i care. this plainly answers your question.

No you didn't, you're dodging ... but that's ok, you've agreed to disagree, heh.

 

[C6R_Mag]

The point was would you not be glad to be alive? Or, would you think you had deserved to die simply because your sperm donor was a rapist?

But since you are alive, would you want your mother to be a victim of rape AND a murderer?

You still can't/won't answer those questions eh?



I may or not be there if it were to happen, and if I were I would care, but oddly enough you wouldn't want me to because afterall it's none of my business.

blow it out of your a$$ with your stupid hypothetical questions.

when you read in the newspaper that someone has died or has been murdered, do you really care? no you don't. you may say"aww" or "thats sad". but you move on and don't give it a second thought. or have you sent flowers, cards, condolensenses to every person that has died in the newspaper or radio?

if your so uppity about life what have you done to support it besides throw around your opinions on here.

i hate the fact that someone will argue tooth and nail about something that they do not actively support at all. wait, maybe you have a pro-life bumper sticker...now you did your part.