Police Militarization

itsrequired

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You chastise someone for using quotes of the students to back their claims, and you use quotes from the officers to back yours?

The other poster stated as fact what the students said happened. I gave you facts as to how the cops felt! I'm pretty sure the cops know how they felt.
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member
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The other poster stated as fact what the students said happened. I gave you facts as to how the cops felt! I'm pretty sure the cops know how they felt.

the cops were not surrounded. Video clearly shows that from looking from BEHIND the line of kneeling protesters that there is a wide opening with nothing there but cops and the cop car on the "street" as you called it but actually a walkway on the Quad. They had their rear covered and opened when Bubba took over with his pepper spray. Read that entire link I posted, along with all the highlighted areas that lead to more indepth facets of the incident.

The fact that Bubba was terminated from the force eight months later is a pretty good indication that he screwed up, and if that was the former Lt's best judgement, it's a good thing he is gone.
 

itsrequired

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the cops were not surrounded. Video clearly shows that from looking from BEHIND the line of kneeling protesters that there is a wide opening with nothing there but cops and the cop car on the "street" as you called it but actually a walkway on the Quad. They had their rear covered and opened when Bubba took over with his pepper spray. Read that entire link I posted, along with all the highlighted areas that lead to more indepth facets of the incident.

The fact that Bubba was terminated from the force eight months later is a pretty good indication that he screwed up, and if that was the former Lt's best judgement, it's a good thing he is gone.

You still haven't answered how you would have gotten them to move so you could get your prisoner out of there?
 

itsrequired

New Member
The cop stepped over them to spray them. Drag the person through the line.

Or maybe go around? The "sit in" line was only so wide....

I didn't realize you had an MPD! Although, those kids were moving where ever the cops were going. That's evidenced by the video. So you would rather have the cops "drag" a prisoner through the line. Do you think these protesters would allow that?
 

itsrequired

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the cops were not surrounded. Video clearly shows that from looking from BEHIND the line of kneeling protesters that there is a wide opening with nothing there but cops and the cop car on the "street" as you called it but actually a walkway on the Quad.

You need to look at the video again! There are protesters all around the cops. Try watching the entire video. Look at 303 in this video and tell me if the police are surrounded or not. There are other parts I could point out but I think I'm likely wasting my time. Your mind is made up and your opinion is the cops are wrong. They can't as cop hating Chris suggested drag the prisoners through the line. Taking the prisoners out of the car creates a substantial risk to their well being if a scuffle between the protesters and police occurs. They can't drive around them because the protesters have demonstrated they will sit down where ever the police try to move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
I didn't realize you had an MPD! Although, those kids were moving where ever the cops were going. That's evidenced by the video. So you would rather have the cops "drag" a prisoner through the line. Do you think these protesters would allow that?

I don't know what A MPD is, but if you're inciuating that I have more than one account on here, you're about as right as you were with your friend that shoots with me.

If they're in the way, and if you're using that as justification to pepper spray non-combative protestors, why can't I? If the cop easily stepped OVER the people sitting down, have the "prisoner" do the same.

Why is it so god damn difficult for you to realize there could simply be other, non-violent ways to treat a bunch of kids sitting in a line on a college campus?

It's simple, and if you watch the video, instead of telling everyone else too, you'd see this line of students was only so long. Walk the #### around. It really is that simple, but instead, he had to flex his muscle and show those little punks who's the boss, right?
 

itsrequired

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I don't know what A MPD is, but if you're inciuating that I have more than one account on here, you're about as right as you were with your friend that shoots with me.

If they're in the way, and if you're using that as justification to pepper spray non-combative protestors, why can't I? If the cop easily stepped OVER the people sitting down, have the "prisoner" do the same.

Why is it so god damn difficult for you to realize there could simply be other, non-violent ways to treat a bunch of kids sitting in a line on a college campus?

It's simple, and if you watch the video, instead of telling everyone else too, you'd see this line of students was only so long. Walk the #### around. It really is that simple, but instead, he had to flex his muscle and show those little punks who's the boss, right?

When you take that person under arrest out of that vehicle, you are liable for that person. They came out of the vehicle, against your policy, by your hand. Not only would your organization been liable, but you personally could have been liable. These so called peacefull demonstrators didn't act that way. They prevented the police from doing their job.

At least you can admit these protesters were punks. Glad to see you have an ounce of intelligence.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
When you take that person under arrest out of that vehicle, you are liable for that person. They came out of the vehicle, against your policy, by your hand. Not only would your organization been liable, but you personally could have been liable. These so called peacefull demonstrators didn't act that way. They prevented the police from doing their job.

At least you can admit these protesters were punks. Glad to see you have an ounce of intelligence.

Just for reference, here's the whole thing on video.







It should come as no surprise that you, and the police chief back the officers, citing safety. "There was no way out of that circle . . . They were cutting the officers off from their support. It's a very volatile situation." Video proves that wrong.

You'll notice that throughout this ordeal, police were arresting and taking away protestors without incident.

The reality is, all this information is right there in the link provided pages ago. Continue to ignore it if you wish.
 

itsrequired

New Member
Just for reference, here's the whole thing on video.

The reality is, all this information is right there in the link provided pages ago. Continue to ignore it if you wish.

You're choosing to ignore the information that is there. If this incident occured anywhere other than some liberal college campus, nobody would have been fired and no award would have been settled with these criminals. You keep hoping that's the way things will be, anarchy. Too bad. It's not that way. Keep trolling the cop hating sites and posting. None of your ramblings change anything.
 

TheLibertonian

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Part of getting an education is challenging the ideas you believe to be true on faith. Yet the statement is not incorrect, because many students are now demanding their world views not be challenged. However, the idea that college should be purely for future profit ventures is also as dangerous.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

San Francisco Police Department asks to use KILLER ROBOTS: Cops want to equip their 12 bomb disposal bots with live ammunition - after Dallas force used one to killed active shooter

  • The new policy proposal will be debated next week by the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Rules Committee
  • The board will define how the SFPD is allowed to use its military-style weapons
  • Already, the draft policy has been scrutinized by supervisor's Aaron Peskin, Rafael Mandelman and Connie Chan, who make up the committee
  • The policy states that they will use robots as a deadly force option 'when risk of loss of life to members of the public or officers are imminent'
  • In 2016, the Dallas police force strapped plastic explosives to a robot and used it to blow up a shooter who had killed five officers - the first instance in US history




 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
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San Francisco Police Department asks to use KILLER ROBOTS: Cops want to equip their 12 bomb disposal bots with live ammunition - after Dallas force used one to killed active shooter

  • The new policy proposal will be debated next week by the San Francisco Board of Supervisors Rules Committee
  • The board will define how the SFPD is allowed to use its military-style weapons
  • Already, the draft policy has been scrutinized by supervisor's Aaron Peskin, Rafael Mandelman and Connie Chan, who make up the committee
  • The policy states that they will use robots as a deadly force option 'when risk of loss of life to members of the public or officers are imminent'
  • In 2016, the Dallas police force strapped plastic explosives to a robot and used it to blow up a shooter who had killed five officers - the first instance in US history
I am not morally opposed to doing this, it’s not as bad as sending in a drone and missile.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
There have been several movies made where robots eventually took over from humans.

They are pretty far fetched-----------------aren't they?

Anyway why get some cop killed by a person who doesn't care about their own life or anybody else's. Difficult when hostages are around , but if they are holed up on their own send in the robot. The person authorizing the robot should be able to defend the decision or face the consequences.
 
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