POLL: Should teachers be allowed to use force

[BlueBird]

I think teachers lack much of the authority they need to create and maintain an effective learning environment in the classroom. I do not agree with teachers degrading students and I certainly would never advocate spanking (in the classroom), although I do think spanking has a time and a place at home.

I do however advocate teachers defending themselves if placed in harm’s way. I advocate disruptive students being placed in time-outs if age appropriate and effective. I also advocate teachers being able to grab a student who is running around and not listening when told to stop. This is especially true if the child is taking away from what would be a positive learning experience for other students. I also believe that parents should not be required to be notified for every little thing that happens at school, but advocate schools who decide to do so. What say you SOMD?

Voters may choose more than one option.

 

[ZARA]

I am an over protective, over bearing, controlling parent. I am easy going in a lot of ways but there are twice as many that I broker no tolerance.

1. NO ONE has the right to touch my child. EVER. Disciplining is my job and mine alone.
2. All of my son’s teachers have met me and I have laid the ground rules down on day one. If there is ANY issue with my son, I am to be notified immediately. This is not a judgment call on the teacher’s part, if there is any kind of an issue it is MY judgment call on how to handle it and to what degree it needs to be handled.

In the same step my son is a very well behaved, well mannered, studious young man. If kids are interrupting the teacher, my son has no problem in telling them to shut up. My son is this way because of the way he was raised. If a teacher belittles him, he will stand up for himself. We have had an issue once with a teacher in another school. That teacher did not like dealing with me and was reprimanded for their actions. My son is more scared of disappointing me and making me angry than anything else on earth and I have never spanked him.

Teachers have every right to defend themselves from assault and they should send a kid into timeout if the student is misbehaving and disrupting class, but they do not have the right to lay hands on a kid unless it is to prevent that kid from causing physical harm to themselves or someone else.

Once the responsibility of physical discipline is given freely to a stranger, anything can happen. Think about how many teachers have sexually assaulted a student…now add giving teachers permission to physically discipline a student…what would prevent teachers from using physical discipline to perform more sexual assaults via intimidation? In some ways they do not have enough power to make student behave but in other ways giving them too much power could make things worse.

That’s why parents should always be aware of everything that happens at all times. As parents, it is OUR responsibility to provide oversight concerning our children.

 

[kwillia]

I support arming teachers with tasers.

 

[slotpuppy]

I had my arse beat with a paddle in school. I dont see a problem with them bringing it back.

 

[Misfit]

I had my arse beat with a paddle in school. I dont see a problem with them bringing it back.

Ping pong during gym?

 

[slotpuppy]

Ping pong during gym?

The gym teacher did it with the tennis racket in the locker room.


He did take me out for icecream after though.

 

[ZARA]

I had my arse beat with a paddle in school. I dont see a problem with them bringing it back.

I just had one seriously Fupped childhood.

When I was in first or second grade I was accused of something I didn't do, I got sent to principles office, got hit with a big ass wood paddle. I already had black and blue bruises on me from my loving parents and that just made me hurt worse.
What did I learn?
I learned people will always cause me pain.
I learned to never trust anyone.
I learned that if you don't want to get hurt you have to be ten times meaner than the person next to you.

I still don't trust people and I am still capable of going from sweet to vicious in a nano-second. I'm not mean. I'm not a bitch. But if someone messes with me I become a vicious "C."

For those of you that did not endure abuse, you honestly have no idea the kind of psychological long term affects it has on a person. I spent more days black and blue, and I don’t mean a few welts on my butt, I mean from my neck to the soles of my feet were BLACK because of the extensive bruising. I spent weeks in pain and more often than not the bruises didn’t get to heal before new ones were added. Yes, I lived an extreme case. But I am NOT the only person that has endured this and you want to allow some stranger to hit the kids too?

Not only that but what if this stranger that you are trusting your child's physical well being to, hits your kid too hard..breaks some bones...what then? Sue the school? Do you realize how easy it is to break a child's bones? Dislocate a hip, fracture a spine? How many of you have been rough housing with your SO or kids and accidentally hurt them because you didn't realize how much strength you used? And you are willing to trust a stranger to hit your kid?

I can guarantee you the kids that do not behave in school are the SAME kids being abused at home. Abuse comes in many forms, it’s not only physical. So now you are going to add more physical trauma to an already emotionally abused kid…this is one of the agents that leads to violence in schools.

Because of my life and my experiences, I will always be a firm believer that violence teaches nothing but violence. Violence begets fear, distrust, and anger. And nothing good can come from our children fearing us more than they respect us. If you beat an animal enough, it will bare it’s fangs and bite back. Just ask my mother.

(Slot, tangent is not directed AT YOU, just the idea of your comment.) Sorry, but some things I feel extremely passionate over and protecting children is #1.

 

[withrespect]

No one is allowed to spank my child except my husband and I.

If the teacher is having THAT big of an issue, call me and I will come beat the chit out of my kid... you will not touch him.

 

[GW8345]

Bring back corporal punishment.

Calling the parents is not always going to solve the issue, I have seen incidents of where the parent was a bigger part of the problem because they refused to discipline their child and thought their child could do no wrong. Give the teachers the ability to control their classrooms and handle their students, we trust them with the ability (and expect them) to judge a child’s learning needs, to keep them safe, to look after their welfare and to help them grow into mature adults, why not let them judge a child’s disciplinary needs, after all, discipline is major tool needed to raising young children into mature adults, why not give teachers that tool.


When I went to school the principal was allowed to spank your arse and the teachers were allowed to smack your hand with a wooden ruler. They also called my parents so when I got home I got my arse beat again. I also remember having to write a thousand times “I will not disrupt the class or disrespect the teacher” because I could not control my mouth. The point, I think I turned out okay and my self esteem and ego didn’t suffer for it, in fact, it made me a better person and looking back I’m glad that those principals, teachers and my parents beat my arse into shape and didn’t let me became a worthless human being.

What I see children of today lacking, discipline, there’s no discipline. Parents are trying to be their child’s BFF’s and don’t want to be the bad guy. Newsflash to those parents, you’re a parent, you are suppose to be the bad guy. Letting your little four year old scream no in your face may seem cute but when they are doing it when they are eight I bet you will no longer going to find it cute, and it’s too late to correct it.

As for my kids, I’ve told their teachers that if they if my kids gave them any troubles, they had my permissions to smack them and then to give me a call and I will take it from there. Both my kids know that Dad doesn’t take any crap and if they want to act like an imbecile, they can do it on the privacy of our own house and nowhere else.

BTW, you trust those “strangers” to keep your child’s life be ensuring the child safe and secure during their time at school but you won’t trust those same “strangers” with knowing when your child needs a little “attitude adjustment”, ironic.

 

[withrespect]

Bring back corporal punishment.

Calling the parents is not always going to solve the issue, I have seen incidents of where the parent was a bigger part of the problem because they refused to discipline their child and thought their child could do no wrong. Give the teachers the ability to control their classrooms and handle their students, we trust them with the ability (and expect them) to judge a child’s learning needs, to keep them safe, to look after their welfare and to help them grow into mature adults, why not let them judge a child’s disciplinary needs, after all, discipline is major tool needed to raising young children into mature adults, why not give teachers that tool.


When I went to school the principle was allowed to spank your arse and the teachers were allowed to smack your hand with a wooden ruler. They also called my parents so when I got home I got my arse beat again. I also remember having to write a thousand times “I will not disrupt the class or disrespect the teacher” because I could not control my mouth. The point, I think I turned out okay and my self esteem and ego didn’t suffer for it, in fact, it made me a better person and looking back I’m glad that those principles, teachers and my parents beat my arse into shape and didn’t let me became a worthless human being.

What I see children of today lacking, discipline, there’s no discipline. Parents are trying to be their child’s BFF’s and don’t want to be the bad guy. Newsflash to those parents, you’re a parent, you are suppose to be the bad guy. Letting your little four year old scream no in your face may seem cute but when they are doing it when they are eight I bet you will no longer going to find it cute, and it’s too late to correct it.

As for my kids, I’ve told their teachers that if they if my kids gave them any troubles, they had my permissions to smack them and then to give me a call and I will take it from there. Both my kids know that Dad doesn’t take any crap and if they want to act like an imbecile, they can do it on the privacy of our own house and nowhere else.

BTW, you trust those “strangers” to keep your child’s life be ensuring the child safe and secure during their time at school but you won’t trust those same “strangers” with knowing when your child needs a little “attitude adjustment”, ironic.

I trust no one.

Touch my child and you will see how crazy I really am.

 

[aps45819]

1. NO ONE has the right to touch my child. EVER. Disciplining is my job and mine alone.

Then you need to be present 24/7 to keep an eye on him.

 

[GW8345]

I trust no one.

Touch my child and you will see how crazy I really am.

Teach your child not to give the teacher a reason to touch them and you will never have to worry about the issue.

As far as seeing how crazy you really are, if you want to resort to physical violence that’s your choice, be advised though, that you would just as sooner want to sand paper a Bobcat’s arse in a phone booth then to get violent with me.

 

[terbear1225]

I trust no one.

I am NOT advocating corporal punishment but this is a major part of why teaching is becoming more difficult. There is NO trust for the teacher to do their job. parents more and more believe the student over the teacher, or never bother to discuss with the teacher, just taking the word of the student.

we see what your child is like in the classroom, it is NOT always the same as what they are like with the parent

 

[GW8345]

I trust no one.

Unless you are home schooling your child you are trusting someone, in fact, you are trusting a whole bunch of people…..the bus driver, the teacher, the lunch lady, the PE teacher, etc.

You are trusting them to teach your child and to ensure your child is safe and well take care of but yet you will not trust them to discipline your child when the needs arise, ironic.

Funny how we will trust someone for something so important but won’t trust them for something different but equally important, like trusting a brain surgeon to remove a blood clot from your brain but won’t trust him to stitch up a cut on your arm.

 

[withrespect]

Teach your child not to give the teacher a reason to touch them and you will never have to worry about the issue.

As far as seeing how crazy you really are, if you want to resort to physical violence that’s your choice, be advised though, that you would just as sooner want to sand paper a Bobcat’s arse in a phone booth then to get violent with me.

Unless you are home schooling your child you are trusting someone, in fact, you are trusting a whole bunch of people…..the bus driver, the teacher, the lunch lady, the PE teacher, etc.

You are trusting them to teach your child and to ensure your child is safe and well take care of but yet you will not trust them to discipline your child when the needs arise, ironic.

Funny how we will trust someone for something so important but won’t trust them for something different but equally important, like trusting a brain surgeon to remove a blood clot from your brain but won’t trust him to stitch up a cut on your arm.

k ...

 

[sockgirl77]

The gym teacher did it with the tennis racket in the locker room.


He did take me out for icecream after though.

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[Kris10]

Teach your child not to give the teacher a reason to touch them and you will never have to worry about the issue.

As far as seeing how crazy you really are, if you want to resort to physical violence that’s your choice, be advised though, that you would just as sooner want to sand paper a Bobcat’s arse in a phone booth then to get violent with me.

 

[withrespect]

I know!

 

[NorthBeachPerso]

I'm trying to figure out where this is coming from.

Corporal punishment in MD public schools has been disallowed for 20 years (private schools are another matter).

Teachers are allowed to use reasonable force to protect themselves, others or the student himself.

Times are different from when many of us were in school 30 or 40 years ago. Students have no qualms challenging teachers, Principals or even the school Security staff and Community Resource Officers assigned to the schools. Many times parents encourage and condone the student's challenge.

 

[Beta]

As far as seeing how crazy you really are, if you want to resort to physical violence that’s your choice, be advised though, that you would just as sooner want to sand paper a Bobcat’s arse in a phone booth then to get violent with me.

WOAH! LOOK AT THIS GUY!! HIS INTERNET MUSKLEZ MUST BE AS BIG AS WARNUTS REAL ONES!



You all need to STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!