Prediction: Rome to be conquered by Islam

thatguy

New Member
Fair 'nuff. So what ya gonna do when you find yourself living under Shariah law by way of our system? Will you accept it?

first of all, it aint goign to happen in our life time if at all.

second, if it does, then our country will be by majority muslim. I doubt a majority muslim country would have any issue with living under islamic law.


and libby, the muslims had taken the holy land hundreds of years before, so if the christians were justified in wanting it back during the crusades, aren't the 'others' (insert and group who claims to have a claim to the holy land) just as justified in wanting it back for their religion?
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
first of all, it aint goign to happen in our life time if at all.

second, if it does, then our country will be by majority muslim. I doubt a majority muslim country would have any issue with living under islamic law.

Not likely but possible. What would YOU (personally) do if you find yourself living under Shariah law by way of our system? Would YOU accept it?
 

thatguy

New Member
Not likely but possible. What would YOU (personally) do if you find yourself living under Shariah law by way of our system? Would YOU accept it?

if you want to talk about ifs we will.

i wouldn't give two effs IF muslims took over rome.


I personally think the catholics are just as effed up as the muslims.

so IF catholics or muslims were to try to take power in the USA and force their religious rules on everyone (which by the way is strictly forbiden in our constitution) i would find either


since it ain't going to happen, i will not be a part of your hate, you can have it all, in the name of god of course:bigwhoop:
 
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Radiant1

Soul Probe
Wow, you show a tremendous potential for intellectual dialogue. :rolleyes:

if you want to talk about ifs we will.

i wouldn't give two effs IF muslims took over rome.

I personally think the catholics are just as effed up as the muslims.

so IF catholics or muslims were to try to take power in the USA and force their religious rules on everyone (which by the way is strictly forbiden in our constitution) i would find either

You would find either ... what? :confused:

since it ain't going to happen, i will not be a part of your hate, you can have it all, in the name of god of course:bigwhoop:

I hope you're right. Btw, I'm a propenent of separation of Church and State. And, this isn't a Christian versus Muslim issue, it's a freedom versus Islamic aggression issue. I think something is clouding your comprehension but I wouldn't be so bold as to call it hate. :wink:

You did good dodging! :clap:

Now waiting on Nuckle's response...
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
the muslims had taken the holy land hundreds of years before, so if the christians were justified in wanting it back during the crusades, aren't the 'others' (insert and group who claims to have a claim to the holy land) just as justified in wanting it back for their religion?
So, now they went from not being aggresive to being justifiably aggressive?

Please pick a story.
 

thatguy

New Member
Wow, you show a tremendous potential for intellectual dialogue. :rolleyes:



You would find either ... what? :confused:



I hope you're right. Btw, I'm a propenent of separation of Church and State. And, this isn't a Christian versus Muslim issue, it's a freedom versus Islamic aggression issue. I think something is clouding your comprehension but I wouldn't be so bold as to call it hate. :wink:

You did good dodging! :clap:



Now waiting on Nuckle's response...

i would fight it. sorry for the poor typing.


as for intellectual dialogue, playing the if game, and pretending the OP was doing anything other than muslim bashing is disengenuous.

neither the vatican nor the good ol USA are in any danger of being overrun by islam, in the form of lots of little allah loving babies or through the sword.
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
i would fight it. sorry for the poor typing.

as for intellectual dialogue, playing the if game, and pretending the OP was doing anything other than muslim bashing is disengenuous.

neither the vatican nor the good ol USA are in any danger of being overrun by islam, in the form of lots of little allah loving babies or through the sword.

That's all I wanted to hear. :huggy:

I don't think Starman or myself was Muslim bashing. In fact, on the contrary I think Hamas clerics are and if they weren't saying such things nobody would think "what if".

Islamic ideology doesn't allow for a separation of religion and state btw. You might be glad that Christianity does when all those Christian god loving Hispanic babies here in the USA grow up eh? :lol:

Once again why would you think our system of Government would allow it? It doesnt allow ItalianScallion to push his religion upon me either.

Because the constitution is left up to interpretation. I guess I don't think our system of checks and balances is indestructible. Heck I'm afraid IS's Christian right will get a majority in all three branches of gov't, even more so if it were Islamic. :ohwell:
 

thatguy

New Member
That's all I wanted to hear. :huggy:

I don't think Starman or myself was Muslim bashing. In fact, on the contrary I think Hamas clerics are and if they weren't saying such things nobody would think "what if".

Islamic ideology doesn't allow for a separation of religion and state btw. You might be glad that Christianity does when all those Christian god loving Hispanic babies here in the USA grow up eh? :lol:



Because the constitution is left up to interpretation. I guess I don't think our system of checks and balances is indestructible. Heck I'm afraid IS's Christian right will get a majority in all three branches of gov't, even more so if it were Islamic. :ohwell:

history has shown that christianity does not belive in this separation and has been just as guilty of imposing religious law when allowed to do so. In fact, its kind of what this country was founded in response to.......
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
history has shown that christianity does not belive in this separation and has been just as guilty of imposing religious law when allowed to do so. In fact, its kind of what this country was founded in response to.......

Yes thatguy, in the distant past there have been rulers who imposed their religion on their subjects (Spain and England for example) resulting in our separation of Church and state and appropriately so; however, that doesn't mean it's a tenet of Christianity to do so. Unlike Islam whose practitioners have an actual tenet to adhere to a theocratic political body and wish to impose that on you and me today.

This thread isn't about Christianity and it's not Muslim bashing, it's a query into our freedom and the "what if" possible loss there of by an entity that in this case happens to be Islamic (as opposed to Communism or Fascism for example). It's the classic clash of civilizations situation.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Once again why would you think our system of Government would allow it? It doesnt allow ItalianScallion to push his religion upon me either.
The fear is that "our system of government" would no longer be there to protect us.

I don't personally share that fear, but it's an understandable one.
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
I am going to kill that guys mother because thirty years ago he killed my mother - it makes it all okay because its ironic.
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
I am going to kill that guys mother because thirty years ago he killed my mother - it makes it all okay because its ironic.

Or ... The Christian West crusaded hundreds of years ago (for whatever reason) so it's okay if the the Muslim East does so now (for whatever reason) and we all should applaud it. Jiiiiiihaaaaad baby, woot woot! :sarcasm:

It would be funny if such thinking wasn't so dangerously stupid. :ohwell:
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Once again why would you think our system of Government would allow it? It doesnt allow ItalianScallion to push his religion upon me either.
And there's the difference that you should feel very fortunate about. I can tell you what God says you should do for the rest of your life but I'd never threaten your life if you didn't. THEY WOULD!
With our government going downhill daily, and with the likes of a Nazi Pelosi and a Muslim Hussein at the helm, I' really see the end coming at us full speed.
Heck I'm afraid IS's Christian right will get a majority in all three branches of gov't, even more so if it were Islamic. :ohwell:
IF and again I'll say IF, you're truly a Christian :confused: why would you fear "my Christian right"? YOU'RE denomination is mentioned in Revelation so YOU should really be concerned about what Starman posted here.
Revelation 13, 14 & 17 should be studied with a passionate intensity by anyone calling themselves Catholic. Don't just read it, use a study Bible to find out it's true meaning.
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
IF and again I'll say IF, you're truly a Christian :confused: why would you fear "my Christian right"? YOU'RE denomination is mentioned in Revelation so YOU should really be concerned about what Starman posted here.
Revelation 13, 14 & 17 should be studied with a passionate intensity by anyone calling themselves Catholic. Don't just read it, use a study Bible to find out it's true meaning.

Because I don't want you cramming your biblical interpretations down my throat.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Heck I'm afraid IS's Christian right will get a majority in all three branches of gov't, even more so if it were Islamic. :ohwell:
Because I don't want you cramming your biblical interpretations down my throat.
In quoting your first statement, I'm not the government so how would I do that? It would be up to the government and we should live so long as to have them teach Christianity.
And, as before, :banghead: you have issues with God. ANYONE (Catholic or whatever) who goes against the Bible goes against God.
I'm done. Poof, gone, bye bye :howdy:
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
In quoting your first statement, I'm not the government so how would I do that? It would be up to the government and we should live so long as to have them teach Christianity.
And, as before, :banghead: you have issues with God. ANYONE (Catholic or whatever) who goes against the Bible goes against God.
I'm done. Poof, gone, bye bye :howdy:

Let me rephrase - A christian right, not you personally but those who tend to think like you do and intepret the bible like you do. The bolded part being a good example. What makes you think I'm going against the bible? You see, if persons such as yourself were to have complete control the Catholic Mass would be outlawed. :ohwell:

CYA!
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Let me rephrase - A christian right, not you personally but those who tend to think like you do and intepret the bible like you do. The bolded part being a good example. What makes you think I'm going against the bible? You see, if persons such as yourself were to have complete control the Catholic Mass would be outlawed. :ohwell:

CYA!
We've been through the reasons before so you'll have to go back and look at them in other threads if you really want to.
I'm just commenting on the part of this thread that applies to what the OP said.
FYI: I would not outlaw the Catholic mass. You're free to practice it because yours is not the religion of death like radical Islam is. As long as people practice theirs peacefully, all I can do is tell them the truth and they can do with it what they will. I didn't plan on posting in here but someone mentioned my name. You jumped topics here little lady.:howdy:
 
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