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vraiblonde

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Re: Our language...twisted

What caused the disease is the constant engaging in pathological, unsanitary sexual practices as well as the hedonistic, promiscuous lifestyle which is typical of most homosexuals.
:killingme I'm sorry, Hessian - I'm not buying it. I know too many gays that just don't fit that stereotype. And I know too many heterosexuals that are as sexually "unsanitary" as the day is long. :lol:
 

Hessian

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Fast reader!

Well Vrai...
although you may have some positive relationships with gays...

I also am familiar with two who contracted Aids and died..Walter & Richard...about 6 years apart. One was in the navy as a corpsman and the other...he liked figure skating...yup.

They were my cousins.

How about that as a reality show?
"Amazing embarrassment."
 
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vraiblonde

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Re: Fast reader!

Originally posted by Hessian
"Amazing embarrassment."
Why should that embarrass you? It has nothing to do with you. I have an uncle who's a drunk and makes an azz out of himself at every family function. Doesn't embarrass me, although my Aunt would like to kill him. I just avoid him.

My grandparents vote Democrat and my grandmother thinks Al Gore is sexy! *shudder* How's THAT for embarrassing?

Live and let live.
 

John Z

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Originally posted by Hessian
and the other...he liked figure skating...yup.

Now, THAT is embarrassing. A man who would like figure skating is a shameful thing. Let's stick to basketball and football and leave sissy figure skating to women, the way God intended. :rolleyes:
 

Surf City Baby

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Hessian, you missed one...

You missed this article, also applicable to our discussion, on WorldNetDaily: "the gay 'truth'"

I composed the following rebuttal and sent it to the author.

Dear Mr. McCullough:

Regarding your column entitled "The 'gay' truth" on WND:

Perhaps, sir, the reason that "increasing numbers of banner conservatives are going soft on truth that has been commonly understood for thousands of years" is that those conservatives are beginning to think about homosexuality rather than merely seeing it through the smoked glass of lifelong conditioning. It's that conditioning that has caused your "truth" to be "commonly understood for thousands of years."

The fact is, sir, that "homosexuality is behavior that is damaging to individuals, to families and to society" is no truth at all. The bases of that belief are misunderstanding, stereotyping, ignorance (passive or willful) and lies that have been passed around and around and accepted as fact -- without the slightest questioning by anyone already inclined to believe them -- for decades.

Your comment about "the 'alphas' in homosexual relationships" made me laugh -- what do you think we are, wolves? -- until I read "are many times recruiting younger partners." That's another lie, sir. It's a lie of the worst magnitude. The statement "the 'alphas' in heterosexual marriages are many times recruiting younger partners" is directly analogous to yours. Can you imagine the outrage you would feel if you or your wife were accused of trolling for "younger" -- and whether you intend it or not, your audience reads "adolescent" or "child" -- partners? That is the outrage you cause in the hearts of gay Americans by spreading these lies. It would appear that you have no conscience.

Please feel free to respond.

Perhaps he's on vacation; he hasn't responded yet.

I do appreciate your answering my query by posting your links. Unfortunately, information from a biased news source can't stand. Would you care to share any information from unbiased sources? Thanks.
 

Surf City Baby

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Originally posted by Kain99
If you want to get to the bottom of the whole Gay thing, take a look at the women's lib movement! Seriously!

Actually, I think the gay rights movement owes a lot to feminism. They developed the concept that people shouldn't live in servitude to particular gender roles. And what's wrong with that?
 
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Betty_Elms

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Originally posted by Surf City Baby
Actually, I think the gay rights movement owes a lot to feminism. They developed the concept that people shouldn't live in servitude to particular gender roles. And what's wrong with that?

Absolutely Nothing!:cheers:
 

Hessian

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A visit to a gay website...

PFlag produced a list...I have snipped the last couple points:

"12. Society is still not as accepting of homosexuality, as it should be, therefore making many gays feel living a closeted life is necessary.

13. Often times gays have to leave their home town because of ridicule, fear and ignorance

14. Often times young gays have to change schools because of being bashed or fear of, ridicule and ostracism.

The list can go on endlessly, .how can people believe this is a sexual preference would you choose this lifestyle, with so many adversities "


OK...so it comes back to an obvious question?
Why try to lure more to join this "lifestyle?" Why glamourize it? Wouldn't a diseased person who was under such oppression be screaming "Flee! Stop before its too late! Don't do what I have done!" (but then again we are not dealing with normal people so that logic does not apply) Why fight so hard to say you're satisfied with it? Why flaunt it when you know society will condemn you even more?

I say it is a love of victimhood. A cry for attention... A form of revenge against a family...a form of rebellion...an act of defiance toward God...

Thus it is hard to reform your life because it would involve saying...I was wrong, it was immoral...and I'm sorry for the pain I have caused both emotional & physical.

Its a lot easier to say I can't help myself...we are normal...you must accept us as we are. (Which I won't, along with millions of other Americans)
Which is why we reject the endorsement by Amazing Race because it hides a multitude of problems while trying to paint "I'm Happy!, I'm satisfied!, I'm normal!"

They aren't...and we know it...:hohum:
 

SmallTown

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Originally posted by Kain99
As Hessian points out we even glamourize it.


Most homosexuals don't go out of their way to draw attention to themselves. Just as we have straight couple who feel the need to show (excessive) affection in public, there are homosexuals who do the same. But overall, they are trying to go about their lives peacefully, yet ignorant people are always try to draw extra light to them. Why? Are they afraid of them? Afraid they will attack their children? Afraid they will rob them? Afraid they will tell you your shoes don't match your pants? What is it? I honestly want to know.
For me personally, when I look around at all the beautiful women in the world, I can't imagine why a guy would be gay. But that is just my opinion. Doesn't mean I will approach gay men with pictures of beautiful naked women and say "See! Wouldn't you rather have this??!!"
If seeing a gay couple of TV offends you, turn it off. TV is full of love and "affection" these days, but for the most part it corresponds to what you feel is "right" and thus don't make a big deal out of it.
But the same reactions happened when people saw the first black people on a basketball court, first blacks on TV, women playing a PGA event, etc. People don't handle change very well.
 

SmallTown

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Oh please, Kain, save me the sob story about the world falling apart. It is just different that what we are used to. Sure, we have issues, but homosexuality is pretty far down on my list! I can't imagine what we would do if we found out Bin Laden was gay. Sheesh, we would definately nuke the whole middle east to make sure we got him then!
 

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Originally posted by SmallTown
I can't imagine what we would do if we found out Bin Laden was gay. Sheesh, we would definately nuke the whole middle east to make sure we got him then!
That's the stupidest remark I've heard today.

Since it's still early...I'm sure you'll out do yourself later.
 

vraiblonde

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Kain

WHY DO YOU CARE!?!?!?!

Why is someone's sex life your business? Would you like it if there were people who were obsessed with YOUR sex life and wanted to tell you what you can and can't do with Biscuit in the privacy of your own bedroom? If they said you were sick or immoral because of something that they can't even see - only imagine and presume?

Check your history books. This country is sinking.
No, YOU check your history books - this country is a major superpower whose residents enjoy the highest standard of living in the world. Other countries' citizens are mad with jealousy - they want our movies, our fashions, our food, our wealth. (And, ST, before you show your ignorance and say "food?", let me remind you that there are more McDonald's in France than French restaurants in the US).

This country isn't sinking - this country is blossoming! We're not some damn fundamentalist third-world country, still living in the 12th century, with our government beating and killing anyone who dares to be different.

As far as bin Laden goes - if he wanted to bomb some gays, he could start right in his own home town. The US doesn't have a lock on gays - Arabs are notorious for "women are for breeding, men are for fun".

But you're right - Hollywood uses gays like circus freaks. Hell, they use EVERYONE like circus freaks.
 

SmallTown

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Re: Kain

Originally posted by vraiblonde

No, YOU check your history books - this country is a major superpower whose residents enjoy the highest standard of living in the world. Other countries' citizens are mad with jealousy - they want our movies, our fashions, our food, our wealth. (And, ST, before you show your ignorance and say "food?", let me remind you that there are more McDonald's in France than French restaurants in the US).


Hey little bunny, I'm on your side on this issue.

That being said, I don't see it as a good thing we have McDonald's anywhere, especially overseas :biggrin:
 

vraiblonde

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I don't see it as a good thing we have McDonald's anywhere, especially overseas
I see it as a good thing that you don't have any say-so over it.

You are no better than Kain, with your petty prejudices and bigotry. Kain hates gays - you hate Southern Marylanders. Both opinions are based on stereotypes that you all have manufactured in your mind, not fact or reality.

So don't you dare try and pretend you're more evolved than her.
 

SmallTown

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
I see it as a good thing that you don't have any say-so over it.

You are no better than Kain, with your petty prejudices and bigotry. Kain hates gays - you hate Southern Marylanders. Both opinions are based on stereotypes that you all have manufactured in your mind, not fact or reality.

So don't you dare try and pretend you're more evolved than her.

Completely different. I had a miserable experience in somd. If Kain has had a miserable experience with gays, then that is a different issue.
And I never said I hate southern marylanders. You people say I hate southern marylanders because some of them I met were REALLY bad. The people on this board put on the blanket clause, not me. I had very direct and specific issues, an accumulation of which made me decide to leave.
But this thread isn't about me, this was about gays until once again someone had to pop my name in there.
 

Surf City Baby

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Re: A visit to a gay website...

Originally posted by Hessian Why try to lure more to join this "lifestyle?" Why glamourize it? Wouldn't a diseased person who was under such oppression be screaming "Flee! Stop before its too late! Don't do what I have done!" (but then again we are not dealing with normal people so that logic does not apply)
What luring goes on, Hessian? You've bought into a sack of lies, and you're so deeply into it that you can't see anything else.

What glamour? My life is the most boring life I know of.

What disease? Physiological disease? We've already been over that. Psychological disease? Check what the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association have to say about that.

Originally posted by Hessian
Why fight so hard to say you're satisfied with it?
You really have to ask that question? It's because of folks like you, Hessian, who constantly tell us that we are not happy, well-adjusted, normal, decent human beings, when we know that we are. Call me slow; I am finally beginning to learn that the Hessians of the world will never accept some truths.

Originally posted by Hessian
Why flaunt it when you know society will condemn you even more?
Flaunt it?! Clearly you see only what you want to. Do you take the "Jacks" of television as perfectly accurate representations of every gay man on the planet? I can only suggest that you take a look around you at church this Sunday, and say to yourself, "Someone in this sanctuary is probably gay." You may be surprised at the feeling that evokes -- if you have the nerve to try it.

Failing that, and since you are into blanket generalizations, please tell me exactly how I "flaunt it."
Originally posted by Hessian
I say it is a love of victimhood. A cry for attention... A form of revenge against a family...a form of rebellion...an act of defiance toward God...
You say? ~chuckle~

Victimhood? BS. Revenge? You didn't read my post wherein I mentioned my family, did you?

Rebellion? Defiance? :rolleyes: Why would a follower of Christ -- and many of us are followers of Christ, or observant Jews, or otherwise faithful and devout believers -- need to defy God, who has no problem with us?

(In this vein, here's a web site I'd like to get your opinion on. I've mentioned Fred Phelps on these boards before; this is one of his sites. Please do comment.)

Originally posted by Hessian
Thus it is hard to reform your life because it would involve saying...I was wrong, it was immoral...and I'm sorry for the pain I have caused both emotional & physical.
There's no need for me to reform my life again. I did it years ago, when I was so f*$#&! up I couldn't function. I was wrong about a great many things, including my orientation. I only found peace after I accepted who I am. Furthermore, my orientation has not caused a single soul any harm, either physical or emotional. It's caused my dad some embarrassment, but that is his baggage, and it's due mainly to the fact that he thinks about the subject like you do.
Originally posted by Hessian "I'm Happy!, I'm satisfied!, I'm normal!" They aren't...and we know it...:hohum:
How freaking absurd can one get? Who is this "we" who defies the life experience of millions of gay folk?
 

SmallTown

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Re: Re: Re: A visit to a gay website...

Originally posted by Kain99
First, welcome to the forums. I'm glad that you are here.

In response to your flaunting question, I am curious why you have announced that you are gay?

It seems rather odd and in all honesty it looks like flaunting. You've been reading the forums for a while...who here is gay? (besides you?) Who is bi-sexual and who is completely hetero?

I don't recall specifically. Did this person announce they were gay in a random thread, or in a thread talking about homosexuals? If the latter, it could be used as a frame of reference to show the angle they are coming from, not unlike being in an argument about somd and saying "I am from somd, and I like it because..." Gives substance to the argument.

People announce things all the time... "I'm conservative", "I'm a liberal", "I'm an outdoors lover", "I'm an avid shooter", etc...
 
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