Racism

[Larry Gude]

Probably not, but ethnicity is not a valid criteria.

Why not? You don't think a black kid or a an Hispanic kid or a woman, who earns their way into a shot into the National Security apparatus brings anything to do the job that yet another white kid from yet another rich family with yet another leg up from Yale brings to the table?

 

[Wishbone]

Why not? You don't think a black kid or a an Hispanic kid or a woman, who earns their way into a shot into the National Security apparatus brings anything to do the job that yet another white kid from yet another rich family with yet another leg up from Yale brings to the table?

Whether they do or not should have NOTHING to do with their melanin level or ancestral background.

 

[This_person]

Why not? You don't think a black kid or a an Hispanic kid or a woman, who earns their way into a shot into the National Security apparatus brings anything to do the job that yet another white kid from yet another rich family with yet another leg up from Yale brings to the table?

I think a black kid from a rich family who went to Yale is likely to have the same thought process as the same white kid. The poor white kid who had to work his/her way up, earning every step, is likely to have the same thought process as the black kid who did the same.

Diversity of thought, not color.

 

[Larry Gude]

I think a black kid from a rich family who went to Yale is likely to have the same thought process as the same white kid. The poor white kid who had to work his/her way up, earning every step, is likely to have the same thought process as the black kid who did the same.

Diversity of thought, not color.

So, that's a round about way of agreeing with her point.

 

[This_person]

So, that's a round about way of agreeing with her point.

It MAY be agreeing with "Yale", but certainly not with "white" or "male". One out of three is a failing grade.

 

[Larry Gude]

I think a black kid from a rich family who went to Yale is likely to have the same thought process as the same white kid. The poor white kid who had to work his/her way up, earning every step, is likely to have the same thought process as the black kid who did the same.

Diversity of thought, not color.

So, that's a round about way of agreeing with her point.

 

[Wishbone]

Do all these intellectual contortions cause you pain?

 

[Larry Gude]

Do all these intellectual contortions cause you pain?

Not at all. You?

Diversity is a natural benefit be it bio diversity, thought or back ground. Simple stuff.

 

[Wishbone]

I'm not the one doing somersaults to agree with Susan Rice.

She is profoundly clear in that she thinks having minority fill is more important that having qualifications.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'm not the one doing somersaults to agree with Susan Rice.

She is profoundly clear in that she thinks having minority fill is more important that having qualifications.

She names three variables. That simple math is tripping you up isn't my problem.

 

[Wishbone]

She names three variables. That simple math is tripping you up isn't my problem.

Not tripped up at all.... I see nothing wrong with white or male.

If she said that the overwhelmingly vapid perspectives of the college educated twits that those institutions produce these days was a problem, and we should be looking to more educationally or vocationally diverse backgrounds... I can completely agree with that statement.

That's not what she said, and it's not what she's pushing.

 

[Larry Gude]

Not tripped up at all.... I see nothing wrong with white or male. .

Me neither. Her neither. What she said, that TP so politely posted, was this;

Originally Posted by Susan Rice, FIU 2016 Commencement
I’m privileged to work with brilliant and dedicated professionals across our government. But we must acknowledge that our national security agencies have not yet drawn fully on the strengths of our great nation. Minorities still make up less than 20 percent of our senior diplomats. Less than 15 percent of senior military officers and senior intelligence officials. Too often, our national security workforce has been what former Florida Senator Bob Graham called “white, male, and Yale.” In the halls of power, in the faces of our national security leaders, America is still not fully reflected.

Now, I'm just a humble product of public schools but 'white, male and yale' is 3 variables.

 

[Larry Gude]

That's not what she said, and it's not what she's pushing.

Ok, so, can you not read TP's post of her actual quote? Does it not show up on your monitor? Maybe there is some sort of technical problem where you can't see or read what TP shared with the class?

 

[GURPS]

If she said that the overwhelmingly vapid perspectives of the college educated twits that those institutions produce these days was a problem, and we should be looking to more educationally or vocationally diverse backgrounds... I can completely agree with that statement.

That's not what she said, and it's not what she's pushing.

I had no problem seeing white males [Yale Educated] were the problem ..... otherwise why would a person of color [female at that] mention the white part

 

[This_person]

'white, male and yale' is 3 variables.

Yes, and of those three variables, one makes sense and two do not.

 

[Wishbone]

This is Larry being Larry.

I'm done.

 

[Larry Gude]

Yes, and of those three variables, one makes sense and two do not.

Right but she did NOT say 'white males' as Wishbone is stuck on. She said, and was merely repeating what white Harvard boy Bob Graham was saying; WHITE MALE YALE

 

[Larry Gude]

This is Larry being Larry.

I'm done.

Given I'm arguing the plain facts and you're arguing your incomplete opinion, I'll take the W.

 

[This_person]

Right but she did NOT say 'white males' as Wishbone is stuck on. She said, and was merely repeating what white Harvard boy Bob Graham was saying; WHITE MALE YALE

Ah, but she did say white, male, and Yale. Three variables. Two of those three are White and Male. The only reason those would have been included in the list is to suggest a problem with all three, not just one of the three. Not just two of the three. No, the problem was with all three combined.

If the problem wasn't white, as in there was a plethora of colors, but they were all male and from Yale, she would have just said "male and Yale". But, she didn't. There's no way to see that but that she has a problem with them being white, being male, and being from Yale. All three variables are each an individual issue for her.

 

[Wishbone]

Given I'm arguing the plain facts and you're arguing your incomplete opinion, I'll take the W.

Larry, stop drinking the Flint tap water and seek treatment.

You were more sensible, succinct and sane in years past.