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hitchicken

Active Member
Yes, Wunsent, Mirna Valerio's story is truly inspiring. In the lengthy article, she has overcome incredible obstacles to become a healthy obese marathon runner. My 'wait a minute' moment came with a brief mention of her belief that dieting habits of 1500 calories a day was not realistic. Well, it is. Yeah, and so are 1700, 1800 or 1900 calories a day. If you maintain that kind of calorie intake, you will lose weight.

If your objective in life to is be a healthy obese marathon runner, than Mirna is your role model. But you or her are not going to lose weight no matter how much you exercise if you keep eating too much.
 

BlueBird

Well-Known Member
I misunderstood. I thought BB was implying she wasn't doing 4.5 MPH when, in fact, she was... whether it was walking, jogging, running or crawling. It's just math. Incidentally, you don't need your doctor's permission to put less calories in your mouth. You can achieve healthy numbers with weight loss by dieting as well.

Bluebird is a he and not a she. I sure would be one ugly woman at 6'2 300 pounds! 4.5 miles per hour is faster than most folks can walk with out starting to jog was my point. I can't walk 4.5 MPH but I can jog it.
 

BlueBird

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I'm with you..

Our son swims two or three times a week and last fall I got tired of sitting at the side of the pool watching him go back and forth, back and forth.. I started walking.. First was maybe a slow couple of miles.. then I upped it to 4 miles.. then 6...

Now I have it in my head that I can make it to 10.. Drop him off at 6 pick him up at 7:45 and get in 10 miles. My goal is 10 minutes a mile for 10 miles.

I have been walking/jogging/running at the college campus 2 or 3 times a week, and going out on weekend walks with the family as much as time allows. During the winter I'm stuck on a track due to the dark, but that's worked to my advantage as far as pace and distance goes. I started jogging a lap, walking a lap.. then walking a little faster, jogging a little faster.

Now I walk 1/2 a lap and run 1.5 or 2 laps.. when I want I can run 2 or 3 miles straight (getting ready for the 5k season) but generally can do the walk/run sets for the 1.75 hours and still get in 8 miles.

I think I can maintain 10 minute miles for extended periods but want to get to sub 9 minute or 8 minute miles for the 5Ks..

I retired from the Army in 2000, and haven't ran more than 10 feet since then.. when I was walking I just asked myself.. "Wonder what would happen if I tried to run??" I ran maybe 100 yards that first night and I didn't die..

Weight loss?? All of this running I haven't lost an ounce.. actually put on a couple of pounds. Had a lot of luck with the Atkins Low Carb approach in the past so may go back to that. I really need to take off 20 pounds to see how it effects my times/pace.

Thanks for chiming in, you're an inspiration! Seriously it really comes down to will and simply getting out and putting one foot in front of the other. I hope I get to be where you're at soon enough. I know I can stay moving for 3 miles. Granted it's not the fastest 3 miles but at least I have a good starting point improve upon. My goal is to get my time down to less than 30 minutes for 3 miles. I want to be able to run for a good 45 minutes to an hour with out stopping. I know when my weight drops things will only get easier. I love food and love to eat so eating less is an even bigger challenge than getting out and running. The calorie deficit is essential to losing weight. I'll get there soon enough. Thanks again for the motivation.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Good luck, BB!!

I like spin class for the cardio, as I am not a fan of running. If a person is a runner for many years, then that's a different story. I feel it's too much on my joints at this point in my life. Cardio is a great way to burn calories. Brisk walking is also very good for you. If you are going to jog or even do the brisk walking - VERY good shoes with good arch support is a must. :yay:
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
The responses here are great. My hub would love it! Just wanted to say that once you start running and exercising that you will build up muscle that throws off your wanting to lose weight, and watching the scale. Some have said here to not do that. That is good advice. My hub went through that at the beginning. But, muscle is a good thing. Happy running, BB. You are an inspiration to couch potatoes like me. I was very active when I was young. Cheerleader, gymnastics, etc., but now I just watch, and post on this forum. :lol:

I am active during the day with house chores and errands out and about, but not the same. I should be running with my hub. I am very proud of him, and envy his dedication. He got our daughter and son running, now. Just not my thing. :stupid:
 
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BlueBird

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Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I was pretty sore when I got up this morning but I had lots to do today. I did some work out in the yard for a few hours and then I went for a run. That's two runs, two days in a row. I only ran for 1.5 miles but my time was better. My legs felt heavy and i was winded most of the run. My plan for tomorrow is to take it easy and allow my body to recover a bit. Perhaps I'll go for a brisk walk and then try and jog on Friday? I'm at that point where it's not enjoyable and it would be very easy to quit. Time to muster up all the motivation I can and keep going. I know as I get in better shape the runs will get easier and more rewarding. When you're out of shape as I clearly am running is actually a full body work out, or so I've read. I think next week I'll introduce some P90X in to my routine. I have it on DVD and never even used it! I'm retired so I have decided my new job is me.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I was pretty sore when I got up this morning but I had lots to do today. I did some work out in the yard for a few hours and then I went for a run. That's two runs, two days in a row. I only ran for 1.5 miles but my time was better. My legs felt heavy and i was winded most of the run. My plan for tomorrow is to take it easy and allow my body to recover a bit. Perhaps I'll go for a brisk walk and then try and jog on Friday? I'm at that point where it's not enjoyable and it would be very easy to quit. Time to muster up all the motivation I can and keep going. I know as I get in better shape the runs will get easier and more rewarding. When you're out of shape as I clearly am running is actually a full body work out, or so I've read. I think next week I'll introduce some P90X in to my routine. I have it on DVD and never even used it! I'm retired so I have decided my new job is me.

Well, you know the saying. If you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of anyone else, or something like that. Yeah, don't over do it. Hub had a sciatica prob at first, and has flat feet, and has dealt with numerous awful blisters, and a knee injury from long ago. No need to rush it. Ease into it, and you will love it. My hub is obsessed with running, now, but it is a good a good obsession. He is running his second 100 miler in April. :jet::faint:
 
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Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I was pretty sore when I got up this morning but I had lots to do today. I did some work out in the yard for a few hours and then I went for a run. That's two runs, two days in a row. I only ran for 1.5 miles but my time was better. My legs felt heavy and i was winded most of the run. My plan for tomorrow is to take it easy and allow my body to recover a bit. Perhaps I'll go for a brisk walk and then try and jog on Friday? I'm at that point where it's not enjoyable and it would be very easy to quit. Time to muster up all the motivation I can and keep going. I know as I get in better shape the runs will get easier and more rewarding. When you're out of shape as I clearly am running is actually a full body work out, or so I've read. I think next week I'll introduce some P90X in to my routine. I have it on DVD and never even used it! I'm retired so I have decided my new job is me.

Since I don't run, I can't really offer any suggestions or help about it. The main thing I could say would be make sure your shoes are the best you can afford and then some, because when people are out of shape, it's easier to get an injury which could sideline you for a long time. That, and to take it slow. Resting in between runs might be the best thing, so you don't overdo it. As you said, maybe a brisk walk every other day to keep moving.

There are others here whoo can comment on the P90X - I've never done that program or Cross Fit. I just don't want the intensity of those types of workouts anymore. I tried the "Body Combat" Or Bootcamp type workouts and I don't wanna workout that hard anymore. :lol: But! I will be 57 in May, and I've done some form of aerobic dance & cardio exercise for the last 40 years. I also rode a "real" bike up to 10 miles a day when I was a stay at home mom - but I had time to do that. Now, I don't. I always found something I liked to do and just kept doing it to keep active.

I joined the gym here in PF when I moved up to Maryland, and have been doing spin classes since then and I also did cardio weight lifting class ("Body Pump") for about 5 years. I was having problems with "tennis elbow" and some issues with my shoulder when I took up golf, so I had to stop the Body Pump a little over a year ago, (and golf, too) because everything aggravated that arm. I took up Yoga and 7 months later - I have virtually lost the pain in those two locations.

I guess my point is - if you find the jogging to be too much in whatever way - just change over to doing something else. Walking briskly may not be the same as jogging, but you can burn a lot of calories and get a lot of cardio benefits from doing it. Or even a spin class. (after you get used to that seat - you've got it down - and you will get cardio benefits!)

Whatever you do, don't quit! :yay:
 

BlueBird

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Since I don't run, I can't really offer any suggestions or help about it. The main thing I could say would be make sure your shoes are the best you can afford and then some, because when people are out of shape, it's easier to get an injury which could sideline you for a long time. That, and to take it slow. Resting in between runs might be the best thing, so you don't overdo it. As you said, maybe a brisk walk every other day to keep moving.

There are others here whoo can comment on the P90X - I've never done that program or Cross Fit. I just don't want the intensity of those types of workouts anymore. I tried the "Body Combat" Or Bootcamp type workouts and I don't wanna workout that hard anymore. :lol: But! I will be 57 in May, and I've done some form of aerobic dance & cardio exercise for the last 40 years. I also rode a "real" bike up to 10 miles a day when I was a stay at home mom - but I had time to do that. Now, I don't. I always found something I liked to do and just kept doing it to keep active.

I joined the gym here in PF when I moved up to Maryland, and have been doing spin classes since then and I also did cardio weight lifting class ("Body Pump") for about 5 years. I was having problems with "tennis elbow" and some issues with my shoulder when I took up golf, so I had to stop the Body Pump a little over a year ago, (and golf, too) because everything aggravated that arm. I took up Yoga and 7 months later - I have virtually lost the pain in those two locations.

I guess my point is - if you find the jogging to be too much in whatever way - just change over to doing something else. Walking briskly may not be the same as jogging, but you can burn a lot of calories and get a lot of cardio benefits from doing it. Or even a spin class. (after you get used to that seat - you've got it down - and you will get cardio benefits!)

Whatever you do, don't quit! :yay:

There are a lot of options and all are better than being a couch potato. I like running because there's no skill involved. You simply put one foot in front of the other and go. Almost like we humans were meant to be doing it! I have to tell you though that today I am sore all over so a nice leisurely walk was in order. I'm watching my calorie in take very closely because I know I have to maintain that deficit to lose weight. I cheated yesterday a little though. We had an old friend over for dinner and my lovely wife did a whole chicken in the rotisserie, mashed potato, carrots, giblet gravy and for desert a home made fudge cake with chocolate fudge frosting and chocolate morsels, my favorite! I ate a small portion of potato a chicken quarter and two wings. I was good I didn't touch the gravy. The came desert I had a slice of that delicious cake. Shame on me. Yesterday was probably a wash in the calorie deficit department but I live another day to watch what I eat again.

I won't be adding P90X until next week. I really need to get my cardio down and get over the everything hurts phase. Thank you for the inspiration. This guy isn't going to quit!
 

BlueBird

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http://www.active.com/running/articles/why-most-runners-don-t-lose-weight

Some good info, but take it with a grain of salt, not a Twinkie!!

Lucky for me a nice slow pace puts my heart right at the top of the fat burn zone. I'm trying to get to a point where I can keep it there for at least 45 minutes. I get winded fast. I built a diet plan where I'll be consuming 1500 calories per day and no more than 160 grams of carbs per day. As per my gastro doc I'm working on increasing my fiber intake as well. I felt a little hungry when I went to be last night but it was manageable as I wasn't starving. Woke up this morning feeling sore but good and not that hungry.

My breakfast this morning:

.5 cup quaker quick oats
4oz of fresh strawberries diced. (I have a digital postal scale which I used to weigh with)
1 small sweet red pepper
8 oz of fresh brewed black coffee.
 

BlueBird

Well-Known Member
Forgot to add that I am borderline type II diabetic so my doc suggested that eat 40 grams of carbs per meal and a 20 gram carb snack between meals. I can skip one of the snacks between breakfast and lunch and eat it about an hour or two before bed to keep my liver from producing sugar while I sleep and lower my morning glucose levels. I am not yet int he range of being diabetic but I'm way to close for comfort. The exercise should help with this as well.

How many calories does a couch potato burn each day?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Lucky for me a nice slow pace puts my heart right at the top of the fat burn zone. I'm trying to get to a point where I can keep it there for at least 45 minutes. I get winded fast. I built a diet plan where I'll be consuming 1500 calories per day and no more than 160 grams of carbs per day. As per my gastro doc I'm working on increasing my fiber intake as well. I felt a little hungry when I went to be last night but it was manageable as I wasn't starving. Woke up this morning feeling sore but good and not that hungry.

My breakfast this morning:

.5 cup quaker quick oats
4oz of fresh strawberries diced. (I have a digital postal scale which I used to weigh with)
1 small sweet red pepper
8 oz of fresh brewed black coffee.

Thats not an awful lot for breakfast.. but I'm not a doctor.. WELL I am, but not THAT kind of doctor.

Low carbing worked for me as starving and being hungry NEVER worked for me. Its not hard to eat 4 or 5 meals a day and still keep my carbs down between 20 - 30 a day. BUT AGAIN your doctor knows what's best for you.

Good luck.. hope to see you at some of the 5Ks this Spring!
 

BlueBird

Well-Known Member
Thats not an awful lot for breakfast.. but I'm not a doctor.. WELL I am, but not THAT kind of doctor.

Low carbing worked for me as starving and being hungry NEVER worked for me. Its not hard to eat 4 or 5 meals a day and still keep my carbs down between 20 - 30 a day. BUT AGAIN your doctor knows what's best for you.

Good luck.. hope to see you at some of the 5Ks this Spring!

It doesn't sound like a lot but it was satisfying.

225 calories
36 grams of carbs
7 grams of protein
3 grams of fat
7 grams of fiber
Low sodium

How many grams of carbs are you eating per day? I looked up how much is average based on a 2,000 calorie diet and I am way, way under. I'm finding it difficult to get my calorie intake where I want it with out exceeding my carb goals. The only way to make it up is with protein because I need to keep my fat intake low.

If I can get down to lets say a 8-9 minute mile I'll run some 5 and maybe even 10K races.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
BB and Bob - Find the right shoe for you here > http://www.runnersworld.com/shoeadvisor
myfitnesspal.com is a great website and app for your phone
mapmyrun.com

I try to eat 5 or 6 times a day, no processed foods, very low carb intake, no sodas, beer, fast food etc. I work out 30 minutes a day 7 days a week and I'm down 17# after 50 days. The initial movement on the scale may take time to appear but you have to stick with it and one day you are going to step out of the shower and say, "Hey, I remember you from about X years ago."
 
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