Saw a Jetti TDi tonight...

itsbob

I bowl overhand
... with the tag FUPRIUS :lol:

Yep, he thought long and hard about that tag, and we were ALL Surprised when he got it.


That was a going competition here for awhile, who could get the best tag for their car(two diesel VW's).. I'm thinking he won..
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
This is one of the MANY things I don't get.

VW has been making a 50mpg car for what, 20 years now? It's affordable. Safe. Comfortable. And...it gets FIFTY MILES PER GALLON.

Has any president every mentioned we all might wanna look into this Wunderwagon before we bother with some new thing that costs more, does less?

Maybe Sturgis does make sense. Somehow.

:shrug:
 

Pushrod

Patriot
This is one of the MANY things I don't get.

VW has been making a 50mpg car for what, 20 years now? It's affordable. Safe. Comfortable. And...it gets FIFTY MILES PER GALLON. Has any president every mentioned we all might wanna look into this Wunderwagon before we bother with some new thing that costs more, does less?

Maybe Sturgis does make sense. Somehow.

:shrug:

You know Larry, that conundrum has been banging around in my mind for a long while now. If I think about it too hard I go into system shutdown. Many things in this country just don't make much sense.
 
This is one of the MANY things I don't get.

VW has been making a 50mpg car for what, 20 years now? It's affordable. Safe. Comfortable. And...it gets FIFTY MILES PER GALLON.

Has any president every mentioned we all might wanna look into this Wunderwagon before we bother with some new thing that costs more, does less?

Maybe Sturgis does make sense. Somehow.

:shrug:

You know Larry, that conundrum has been banging around in my mind for a long while now. If I think about it too hard I go into system shutdown. Many things in this country just don't make much sense.

Oil = bad
money in your pocket = bad
your money in my pocket or gov't pocket = good
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
This is one of the MANY things I don't get.

VW has been making a 50mpg car for what, 20 years now? It's affordable. Safe. Comfortable. And...it gets FIFTY MILES PER GALLON.

Has any president every mentioned we all might wanna look into this Wunderwagon before we bother with some new thing that costs more, does less?

It's a diesel
Everybody knows they're noisy, stinky and smoke pours out of the tail pipe.

.... just like everybody knows black people aren't qualified to get a job without help from the government.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
You know Larry, that conundrum has been banging around in my mind for a long while now. If I think about it too hard I go into system shutdown. Many things in this country just don't make much sense.

The problem is they do make sense once you dig into them.

The concerned parties, industry, labor, finance, don't want us making small, efficient diesel engines and cars. It is in ALL their interests that we produce SUV's and pick up trucks.

Think in terms of the enormity of our car/fuel/maintenance 'system'. Gas stations that have been modeled on gasoline, not diesel. Refining. Mechanics. We are not so much an oil economy as we are a gasoline one.

A friend is a union guy and we were sitting on our motorcycles watching a coal train go by and I comments to him 'all of that is going to be burned up to make electricity. Think of all the trains, tracks, mining, the exhaust, think of ALL that waste if only we'd just resolve that nuke is the way to go. Cheaper, safer, less of everything.'

He didn't miss a beat; "What about all the jobs we'd lose."


I think like a free market business person; how to do it better for less. Some people think in terms of; how to do it to maximize jobs. Some people think in terms of geopolitics; how to do 'it' so as to get this nation to do that.

One of the great problems in our economy these days is that we went from an income and expense economy, do this for X cost, get paid for it for X plus a little and you made a profit, to an asst and liability economy where money is made on the stock price which quite often has NOTHING to do with income and expense.

What gets me is that I do get this stuff and I attracts my wrath when some politician is standing there talking about saving energy when his ideas and policies are nothing of the sort. So, we never get around to having much in the way of honest conversation about issues because of all the machinations and motivations behind a given position. The oil production thread is a good case in point.

Is the goal increased US production or reduced oil cost? To me, the goal is increased US oil production TO USE as leverage to get cheaper oil. We should have the goal of $30-50 oil and then go about figuring out how to do that.

Same thing for MPG. It makes sense to get more MPG if the goal is to save money. You don't save money getting more MPG out of a hybrid or electric car that costs so much you'll never realize savings.

And so it goes. :buddies:
 
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