Scooter Libby
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forestal
I'm the Boss of Me
Yep, prosecutor said he was unable to find out how high up this treason went because Libby lied.
So, does pardoning a traitor make Bush a traitor?
How many people will Bush ruin to keep his deceit hidden?
Inquiring minds want to know.
This is actually great news. It's better to have this done before the next elections take place. Now we can link all Republicans to Bush and tar and feather them all.
So, does pardoning a traitor make Bush a traitor?
How many people will Bush ruin to keep his deceit hidden?
Inquiring minds want to know.
This is actually great news. It's better to have this done before the next elections take place. Now we can link all Republicans to Bush and tar and feather them all.
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Inkpen
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The possibility of a pardon was discussed when all this began and i believe several here predicted a pardon...
Well, your predictions came true.
From MSNBC, " Bush left intact a $250,000 fine and two years probation for Libby, and Bush said his action still “leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby.” "
For Scooter, a 1/4mill fine is HARSH?? To 99.9% of us here, that IS harsh..but for Scooter?
Probation for only 24 months? How hard is that?
Bush goes on to say, " “The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged,” Bush said. “His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant and private citizen will be long-lasting.”"
I wonder how much people will pay for him to come and speak at events, etc.
Ya know,,,that "Speaker $$$ Fee"?
He is not going to hurt by this...he can retire, write a book, get a make over and travel. Pretty good outcome for a man who covered up for the President.
He took the bullet and survived...and will come out smelling like a rose...
Too bad another top White House Aid ( Press Secetary) James Brady can't comment on this with his old wit and sharp comments..
....oh..ya..he DID take a bullet....for Ronald Reagan...
Well, your predictions came true.
From MSNBC, " Bush left intact a $250,000 fine and two years probation for Libby, and Bush said his action still “leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby.” "
For Scooter, a 1/4mill fine is HARSH?? To 99.9% of us here, that IS harsh..but for Scooter?
Probation for only 24 months? How hard is that?
Bush goes on to say, " “The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged,” Bush said. “His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant and private citizen will be long-lasting.”"
I wonder how much people will pay for him to come and speak at events, etc.
Ya know,,,that "Speaker $$$ Fee"?
He is not going to hurt by this...he can retire, write a book, get a make over and travel. Pretty good outcome for a man who covered up for the President.
He took the bullet and survived...and will come out smelling like a rose...
Too bad another top White House Aid ( Press Secetary) James Brady can't comment on this with his old wit and sharp comments..
....oh..ya..he DID take a bullet....for Ronald Reagan...
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Inkpen
Guest
Found it:
Idiot called it right...
http://forums.somd.com/showthread.php?t=96349&highlight=Scooter+Libby
Idiot called it right...
http://forums.somd.com/showthread.php?t=96349&highlight=Scooter+Libby
That's horsecrap. The "lie" was that Libby first heard about Valerie Plame from Tim Russert, when apparently he first heard it from Dick Cheney. So Fits knew exactly what the truth was and "how high it went".forestal said:
However, the whole brouhaha was about whether Scooter Libby outed a covert CIA agent. Turns out that the "traitor" was Richard Armitage, yet Fitzgerald declined to pursue charges agains tArmitage.
Why do you supposed that might be?
Dunno. Does pardoning a terrorist make Clinton a terrorist?
Anyway, glad Scooter has been pardoned. That whole thing was a Democrat witch-hunt to begin with.
Yeah, that master criminal Scooter Libbyforestal said:
Pete
Repete
Scooter Libby was not pardoned! I say again he was not pardoned.
Bush commuted his sentence, he is still convicted, he still has a fine, he still has a criminal record. All Bush did was say he did not have to go to prison for 30 months for lying about a non-crime the conviction and all the other penalties are still in affect.
Bush commuted his sentence, he is still convicted, he still has a fine, he still has a criminal record. All Bush did was say he did not have to go to prison for 30 months for lying about a non-crime the conviction and all the other penalties are still in affect.
MMDad
Lem Putt
As long is the standard is applied evenly, that's a great idea. Let's start here with slick Willie the bank robber and more!forestal said:
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm
Coventry17
New Member
You mean exactly like Kenneth Starr and His Merry Band of Knuckletards did in the 90's?
Mikeinsmd
New Member
Gee, looky how Clinton operated..........These are just a FEW of his pardons.Kerad said:Once again, President Bush does what his critics expect him to do. Thanks for not letting us down, Dubya!
If anybody honestly thought Bush was going to let Scooter go to jail...well...I guess they haven't been paying attention to how this administration operates.
I had to keep shortening the list BC the board only allows 10,000 characters. The entire list was over 50,000!!!
NAME DISTRICT SENTENCED OFFENSE
David Phillip Aronsohn D. Minn. 1961 Failure to pay special occupational tax on wagering, 26 U.S.C. § 7203
Wanda Kaye Bain-Prentice D. Ariz. 1982 Mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. § 1341
Antonio Barucco U. S. Army general court-martial 1945 Desertion in violation of the 58th Article of War
Kristine Margo Beck D. Idaho 1981 Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656
David Christopher Billmaier D. New Mex. 1980 Possession with intent to distribute amphetamines, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1)
Terry Lee Brown E. D. Ky. 1962 Interstate transportation of a stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312
Joe Carl Bruton N. D. Tex. 1979 Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Nolan Lynn DeMarce W. D. Wis. 1983 Making false statements to obtain bank loans, 18 U.S.C. § 1014
Jimmy C. Dick N. D. Calif. 1976 Conspiracy to manufacture counterfeit Federal Reserve Notes, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Edward Eugene Dishman W. D. Okla. 1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Oklahoma counties, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Brenda Kay Engle S. D. Ind. 1983 Conspiracy to commit theft from interstate shipment, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Mary Theresa Fajer D. Oregon 1980 Conspiracy to commit bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 371
Albert James Forte D. Dist. Col. 1973 Making and subscribing false and fraudulent income tax return, 26 U.S.C. § 7206(1)
Fendley Lee Frazier S. D. Ala. 1965 Interstate transportation of a stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312
Robert Linward Freeland, Jr. N. D. Ind. 1983 Forcible rescue of seized property, 26 U.S.C. § 7212(b)
Ralph Leon Furst S. D. Calif. 1966 Embezzlement of United States mail (U.S. Code section not cited)
Barbara Ann Gericke W. D. Wis. 1984 Conspiracy to introduce contraband into federal prison, 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 1791
Billy Joe Gilmore N. D. Tex. 1982 Mail fraud and aiding and abetting, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1341 and 2
Loreto Joseph Iafrate N. D. W. Va. 1976 Failure to record receipt of firearms, 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(m) and 924(a)
Carl Bruce Jones W. D. Mo. 1983 Distribution of marijuana and use of telephone to facilitate marijuana distribution, 18 U.S.C. § 2 and 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and 843(b)
Candace Deon Leverenz N. D. Calif. 1972 Unlawful distribution of LSD, 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1) and (b)(1)(B)
George William Lindgren S. D. N. Y. 1975 Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656
Brian George Meierkord C. D. Ill. 1983 Making false statement to bank, 18 U.S.C. § 1014
Jackie Lee Miller N. D. Okla. 1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Joseph Patrick Naulty E. D. Pa. 1980 Carrying away goods moving as part of foreign shipment, 18 U.S.C. § 659
Theodore Roosevelt Noel N. D. Ala. 1972 Selling whiskey in unstamped containers and making false statement in the acquisition of firearms from licensed dealer, 26 U.S.C. § 5604(a)(1) and 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(a)(6) and 924(a)
Mary Louise Oaks M. D. La. 1979 Conspiracy to defraud the government with respect to claims, 18 U.S.C. § 286
Robert Paul Padelsky D. Utah 1980 Misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656
Elizabeth Amy Peterson D. Nev. 1985 Conspiracy to make false statements to bank, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Susan Lauranne Prather W. D. Ark. 1975 Causing marijuana to be transported through the mail, 21 U.S.C. § 843(b)
Gary Lynn Quammen W. D. Wis. 1976 Misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656
Robert Ronal Raymond D. Conn. 1972 Conspiracy to manufacture, receive, possess, and sell firearms silencers, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Elizabeth Hogg Rushing N. D. Ga. 1978 Misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656
Marc Alan Schaffer S. D. N. Y. 1968 Submission of false statements to Selective Service System Local Board, 50 U.S.C. Appendix § 462(a)
Roy Aaron Smith E. D. Tex. 1982 Misprision of a felony, 18 U.S.C. § 4
Diane Dorothea Smunk D. So. Dak. 1984 Embezzlement by government employee, 18 U.S.C. § 641
Thomas Peter Stathakis D. So. Car. 1976 Selling and delivering firearms to out-of-state resident and falsifying firearms records, 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(b)(3), 922(m), and 924(a)
Kathleen Vacanti C. D. Calif. 1979 Conspiracy to defraud the United States by obtaining payment of false claims, presenting false claims to the United States, forging a writing, and aiding and abetting, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2, 286, 287, and 495
Pupi White W. D. Mo. 1985 Making false statement on United States passport application, 18 U.S.C. § 911
Charles Coleman Wicker E. D. Mo. 1975 Conspiracy to conduct illegal gambling business, 18 U.S.C. § 371
Roderick Douglas Woods S. D. Miss. 1982 Misappropriation of bank funds and aiding and abetting, 18 U.S.C. §§ 656 and 2
April 17, 1995
NAME DISTRICT SENTENCED OFFENSE
Bradley Vaughn Barisic N. D. Calif. 1980 Making false statement to National Labor Relations Board, 18 U.S.C. § 1001
Herschel L. Brantley U. S. Air Force general court-martial 1951 Larceny in violation of 93rd Article of War
Linda Bailey Byars D. So. Car. 1975 Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656
Patricia Ann Chapin W. D. Mo. 1986 Falsifying prescription for controlled substance, 21 U.S.C. § 843(a)(4)(A) and 18 U.S.C. § 2
Ronald Jacobs E. D. Pa. 1967 Theft from interstate shipment, 18 U.S.C. § 659
Margaret Mary Marks N. D. Ohio 1984 Willful misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 657
John Richard Martin S. D. Calif. 1956 Embezzlement of funds from savings and loan association, 18 U.S.C. § 657
Earl Thomas McKinney 1. U. S. Air Force summary court-martial 1. 1951 1. Absent without leave
Ironic that Libby was convicted of the same thing as Clinton, isn't it?Coventry17 said:
