Secret prison?

FromTexas

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Larry Gude said:
...gotta love a joke that takes on its own life!

hehehehheehhe.....

A joke about a dead guy that took on life? There is some hidden irony there. After reading that, do you know what he would be doing today?
















































Scratching on the lid of his coffin.
 

FromTexas

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Spoiled said:
because all terrorists, much like osama come from poor families and are abused by their government :duh:

Yes. The ones that blow themselves are 90% from that type environment. Its one of the key reasons they do it. The ones with money just tell the others to do it. You think Osama is hiding because he knows he is going to be a martyr or because he knows he is dead on site?
 

MMDad

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ajhkmr97 said:
As much as I am empathetic with your feeling of wanting revenge I would like to point out a couple of things.

1) The US is the only country that does not torture its detainees/prisoners. Or we are not supposed to that is. I know it happens but not because the government condones torture (gray area there I know). What gets me about all this torture stuff is that no other country publicizes its methods of punishment / interrogation.

2) I am a Christian - proud of that fact. The Quran is just as precious to the Muslim faith as the Hold Bible is to Christianity. Neither texts condone violence and both have the underlying principal of "do unto others".. in other words - they both preach peace and tolerance - not violence. All those individuals who claim to be Christian or Muslim and conduct terrorist acts - they are a farce to the religion that they claim. I just don’t think it is right for us to "make fun of their silly Quran". Anger begets anger.... by us deciding to mock Muslims - we only help to keep the fire burning and not to help put it out.

I know....I've probably taken this all too seriously..... but I also know there is some jack-a-lope out there who will take your statement seriously and will want to act on that hate. No offence meant....

As for as the secret prisions - i'm happy of their existance - I just dont want to hear of the tactics used to get the info we need..... that is all I care about

1. There are a lot of countries who don't use torture. They just are not usually involved in wars.

2. Both the Bible and the Quran condone violence, depending on which verse you read. Likewise they both advocate violence, depending on which verse you read.

What is the difference? Both religions went through an extremely violent purging time. Look at when the crusades happened vs. the beginning of Christianity, as well as the current terrorism vs. the beginnings of Islam. Not exact, but close enough.

The bottom line: Most of the world has learned from their mistakes and don't practice hatred any more. The rest will eventually get there. Until then, kill 'em all, and let God sort them out.
 

Spoiled

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FromTexas said:
Yes. The ones that blow themselves are 90% from that type environment. Its one of the key reasons they do it. The ones with money just tell the others to do it. You think Osama is hiding because he knows he is going to be a martyr or because he knows he is dead on site?
I maybe mistaken, but werent the majority of the 9-11 terrorists pretty well off and pretty well educated?
 

Pete

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I am torn.

On one hand I would like to go and weild the steel rod myself. If torture garners information that saves a bunch of people I am all for it. Of course with sodium pentathol they can get a bunch of information without inflicting pain.

Yet on the other hand I know deep down that civility is what separates us from them.

I suppose all things considered, if they had credible evidence that pertinate info were available, getting it however brutal the method is worth it and I wouldn't have a problem cracking a bone for 10 to get it.

The sticky wicket is that A. If they are enemy combatants they are covered by the Geneva Convention and thus are protected from abuse.

If they are citizens of the US they are protected by our laws. I have a real problem with US citizens, no matter how scummy being detained forever without due process. If they were captured assisting or participating in terror, try them and slam the door on their cage and be done with it.
 

vraiblonde

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Spoiled said:
I maybe mistaken, but werent the majority of the 9-11 terrorists pretty well off and pretty well educated?
They couldn't have been too well educated, now could they? Or else they wouldn't have thought virgins were waiting for them after they blew themselves up.
 

Spoiled

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vraiblonde said:
They couldn't have been too well educated, now could they? Or else they wouldn't have thought virgins were waiting for them after they blew themselves up.
that is a religion thing... the right wing religion people here still think creationism>evolution
 

vraiblonde

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Spoiled said:
that is a religion thing... the right wing religion people here still think creationism>evolution
Pssst.....so do Muslims. But guess what? Christians don't blow themselves and others up just to get laid.
 

Spoiled

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we have lost more american lives to domestic terrorism, done by christians... than to americans lost to muslims
 

vraiblonde

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Spoiled said:
we have lost more american lives to domestic terrorism, done by christians... than to americans lost to muslims
I know this is futile to ask but where did you get that information? I am completely unaware of Christians blowing up 3,000 folks in one whack and I'm SURE it would have been on the news.
 

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Actually, the most American lives lost are at the hands of abortion doctors, certainly very few of whom are Christian.
 

BuddyLee

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vraiblonde said:
Actually, the most American lives lost are at the hands of abortion doctors, certainly very few of whom are Christian.
That would be an interesting study, abortion doctors and every aspect about them. Hmmm...
 

vraiblonde

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BuddyLee said:
That would be an interesting study, abortion doctors and every aspect about them. Hmmm...
It would be interesting to interview the guy who invented the partial-birth abortion and find out what the hell he was thinking. He's probably in a padded room somewhere.
 

BuddyLee

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vraiblonde said:
It would be interesting to interview the guy who invented the partial-birth abortion and find out what the hell he was thinking. He's probably in a padded room somewhere.
I thought he was in Congress, same padded room?
 

Larry Gude

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FromTexas said:
A joke about a dead guy that took on life? There is some hidden irony there. After reading that, do you know what he would be doing today?

Scratching on the lid of his coffin.

First off, how would one tell the difference between that and his guitar playing? :badumpah:

Second, did they find his body?
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
We say that but...

Yet on the other hand I know deep down that civility is what separates us from them.

...the day to day violence in our culture far exceeds that of Islamic countries.

I think what separates us is we never stop evolving and changing in order to adapt to the mixing bowl we still are.

Islam is stuck, not technologically, but physcologically, in the year 1100.

They modernize but they won't westernize and for all our flaws, westernization is why we're better.
 

ylexot

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Spoiled said:
we have lost more american lives to domestic terrorism, done by christians... than to americans lost to muslims
Haven't you learned by now that you need to provide references for such claims?
 

dustin

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Spoiled said:
we have lost more american lives to domestic terrorism, done by christians... than to americans lost to muslims
If your definition of domestic terrorism is drunk drivers. Then I agree.
 
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