Seperaqtion of Chirch and State huh ?

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RadioPatrol

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This_person

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RadioPatrol said:
as long as its Christianity that is separate ......... http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/...-pay-for-foot-washing-stations-at-university/ :whistle:
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There is no Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. There's a prohibition on the state establishing a religion. This is no different than a Christmas tree or Christmas decorations paid for and lighted by your tax dollars. THIS is what tolerance and diversity is all about; allowing all to participate without feeling discriminated against.
 
Dork

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This_person said:
There is no Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. There's a prohibition on the state establishing a religion. This is no different than a Christmas tree or Christmas decorations paid for and lighted by your tax dollars. THIS is what tolerance and diversity is all about; allowing all to participate without feeling discriminated against.
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Try putting up a statue of Mother Mary in a university. See what happens. Go ahead. Post the 10 commandments or hang a picture of Jesus. Oh, and it's no longer called a Christmas tree, it's a holiday tree. Why anyone would accomodate the Muslim religion in today's world is beyond me. Especially at a college at taxpayer's expense. They are walking the fence of acceptance in this country. Have them talk some sense into their radical Muslim cousins who want to kill us and make them stop and I'll build them a foot bath but until then, I don't think we should be giving Muslims any special treatment.
 
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virgovictoria

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I thought that by the way the thread title was misspelled, you were drunk posting into a Sunday as an act of civil disobedience. :coffee:
 
Midnightrider

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Dork said:
Try putting up a statue of Mother Mary in a university. See what happens. Go ahead. Post the 10 commandments or hang a picture of Jesus. Oh, and it's no longer called a Christmas tree, it's a holiday tree. Why anyone would accomodate the Muslim religion in today's world is beyond me. Especially at a college at taxpayer's expense. They are walking the fence of acceptance in this country. Have them talk some sense into their radical Muslim cousins who want to kill us and make them stop and I'll build them a foot bath but until then, I don't think we should be giving Muslims any special treatment.
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WTF are you talking about? plenty of colleges and universities have churches on campus
 
PsyOps

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Midnightrider said:
WTF are you talking about? plenty of colleges and universities have churches on campus
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And, I could be wrong, those "Churches" provided services for other faiths, not just Christian.. I know this is the case on military installations as well.
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
And, I could be wrong, those "Churches" provided services for other faiths, not just Christian.. I know this is the case on military installations as well.
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while that may or may not be the case, i dont know, his point that you wouldn't be allowed to put up christian symbols on a college campus is just not accurate.
http://www.canterbury.org.vt.edu/Student/Student.php

an episcopal church, while 2ndA may question their christianity (hahahaha) certianly has plenty of christian symbols.
 
PsyOps

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Remember the William and Mary controversy? One of the college administrators proposed removing the cross from the Wren Chapel. And it was removed. The administrator’s rationale was “to make the chapel 'less of a faith-specific space.'" “Less faith specific”! In a Christian church on a Christian campus.

Now if anyone knows anything about William and Mary, it is the second oldest college in the country. It was founded on Christian principles:

W&M Hisotrical Facts

1690.
The clergy of the Church of England in Virginia adopted at a convention "Several Propositions" for founding a college to consist of three schools: grammar, philosophy and divinity. On July 25, 1690, Lieutenant Governor Francis Nicholson authorized several gentlemen to take subscriptions in Virginia for the proposed college, and on the same day the clergy issued an appeal for financial support to merchants in England who were trading in Virginia.

1691, May.
The Reverend James Blair, commissary or representative in Virginia of the Bishop of London, was issued instructions by the General Assembly for the founding of a college, and was sent to England to present a request to the King and Queen to grant a charter for a college.

1693, February 8.
King William III and Queen Mary II granted a charter to establish The College of William and Mary in Virginia. The King provided £1,985 14s l0d from quitrents in Virginia, a penny tax on every pound of tobacco exported from Maryland and Virginia to countries other than England, the "Profits" from the surveyor-general's office and 10,000 acres each in the Pamunkey Neck and on Blackwater Swamp. The Reverend James Blair was named president of the College and served until his death in 1743.
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Yet, we have secularists attempting to quash tradition and Christian expression. The president of W&M reversed the decision and placed the cross back in the chapel, with conditions of course.

Point of this is, if we can’t even place a cross in a Christian church in a Christian-established college then you may get the picture of how we have a group of secularists that are only aimed at removing Christianity from our public square in any way possible.
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
Remember the William and Mary controversy? One of the college administrators proposed removing the cross from the Wren Chapel. And it was removed. The administrator’s rationale was “to make the chapel 'less of a faith-specific space.'" “Less faith specific”! In a Christian church on a Christian campus.

Now if anyone knows anything about William and Mary, it is the second oldest college in the country. It was founded on Christian principles:

W&M Hisotrical Facts



Yet, we have secularists attempting to quash tradition and Christian expression. The president of W&M reversed the decision and placed the cross back in the chapel, with conditions of course.

Point of this is, if we can’t even place a cross in a Christian church in a Christian-established college then you may get the picture of how we have a group of secularists that are only aimed at removing Christianity from our public square in any way possible.
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But other than that short period, there always was and is a cross there, right?

And numerous campuses acroos the country have a christian church on site. What is more symbolic of the christian faith than a church?
When i was going to college, one day people were giving away pocket sized bibles to everyone going into the dinning hall, our campus had a christian church at its center, and the school was orignally a very religious establishment.
I guess i am missing the part where christianity is under attack.
 
Geek

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MMDad said:
On TV and in movies, but there was no bible any of the times that I testified.
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Maybe they didn't offer you one because they saw your horns :shrug:
 
MMDad

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Geek said:
Maybe they didn't offer you one because they saw your horns :shrug:
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I was wearing a Mickey Mouse hat, and they know that Disney is Satan. Mickey ears are actually worse than horns.
 
brendar buhl

brendar buhl

Doesn't seem Christian
Geek said:
Don't we swear in with a Bible in court
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2ndAmendment said:
Not any more. And we wonder why this country is on the road to hell.
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The Bible tells us not to swear by heaven or Earth. Placing your hand on the Bible and swearing is not a "Christian practice", it is an "American tradition". American traditions like having the ten commandments in a court room or having "In God We Trust" on our money make us "feel" like a Christian nation while in our hearts we worship ourselves and our money.
 
PsyOps

PsyOps

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Midnightrider said:
But other than that short period, there always was and is a cross there, right?

And numerous campuses acroos the country have a christian church on site. What is more symbolic of the christian faith than a church?
When i was going to college, one day people were giving away pocket sized bibles to everyone going into the dinning hall, our campus had a christian church at its center, and the school was orignally a very religious establishment.
I guess i am missing the part where christianity is under attack.
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When I went to college this guy came up to me and started on this rant about zen, transcendental meditation, mind-over-body, etc… I wasn’t into all that eastern philosophy stuff but I listened to him anyway. He was an interesting guy and we became good friends through my time at that school. He knew I was a Christian and neither of us was threatened or offended by the other. We got in some pretty heated religious and philosophical debates. Looking back on it I realized how much more I learned in those discussions than in the actual classroom.

Did that guy take the bible and pound upside your head forcing your to read it? Do the churches see you walk by and get about 10 of them and pick you up and force you into the church? Were you threatened by this person that handed you that bible?

I supposed since you are not Christian (or am I assuming this incorrectly?) you wouldn’t see the anti-Christian movement in this country. I think the issue has been beat to death. I guess unless it affects you personally you wont feel the effects of it.
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
When I went to college this guy came up to me and started on this rant about zen, transcendental meditation, mind-over-body, etc… I wasn’t into all that eastern philosophy stuff but I listened to him anyway. He was an interesting guy and we became good friends through my time at that school. He knew I was a Christian and neither of us was threatened or offended by the other. We got in some pretty heated religious and philosophical debates. Looking back on it I realized how much more I learned in those discussions than in the actual classroom.
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good, good, religious freedom is good, see

psyops said:
Did that guy take the bible and pound upside your head forcing your to read it? Do the churches see you walk by and get about 10 of them and pick you up and force you into the church? Were you threatened by this person that handed you that bible?
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where did that come from, i thought this was about the perception of christianity being attacked, not doing the attacking. I was just relaying my own experience at a state funded college.
psyops said:
I supposed since you are not Christian (or am I assuming this incorrectly?) you wouldn’t see the anti-Christian movement in this country. I think the issue has been beat to death. I guess unless it affects you personally you wont feel the effects of it.
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Thats a victims mentality. Nobody is attacking your way of life, they just want to be free to practice their own.....
 
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