johnycarcinogen
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you shut up
Sheriff driving off-duty
- Thread starter Major Bawls
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you shut up
There is nothing to prohibit a police officer from taking police action if he/she has riders in their vehicle.
Major Bawls
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Really?
educate me...a high speed chase maybe. I thought there might be some rules of conduct, guide whatever...
Interesting
educate me...a high speed chase maybe. I thought there might be some rules of conduct, guide whatever...
Interesting
I don't understand your question? What line of work are you in?
Major Bawls
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Well you stated "There is nothing to prohibit a police officer from taking police action if he/she has riders in their vehicle."
I asked if that included a high speed chase, followed by a general comment on operating principles i.e. "Are riders/passengers (non LEO) permitted to occupy seating in a law enforcement vehicle during that period of time said LEO is engaged in pursuit?"
I asked if that included a high speed chase, followed by a general comment on operating principles i.e. "Are riders/passengers (non LEO) permitted to occupy seating in a law enforcement vehicle during that period of time said LEO is engaged in pursuit?"
Dork
Highlander's MPD
What's the matter? Did they turn your application down? Did they lock you up for something you did? What do you do for a living? Give us a chance to judge what you are getting for pay/benefits
Major Bawls
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Personal attacks
I would kindly appreciate sticking to the issue...not personally attacking another forum member. If your lack of intellectual capacity prohibits you from staying on subject, ingest your ridulin and promptly locate an attention deficit disorder forum. Thanks!
noclue4me is a solid person. Works many hours every day for their employer and has made significant improvement to Federal, State and local governments. Just a clue 4 U
I would kindly appreciate sticking to the issue...not personally attacking another forum member. If your lack of intellectual capacity prohibits you from staying on subject, ingest your ridulin and promptly locate an attention deficit disorder forum. Thanks!
noclue4me is a solid person. Works many hours every day for their employer and has made significant improvement to Federal, State and local governments. Just a clue 4 U
Dork
Highlander's MPD
That's funny. When have you ever seen anyone stick to the issue on this forum? I do not take ridulin, do not have add and think you are an idiot, Major Bowels. If you don't like what I say here, too bad! How do you know noclue so well? Are you one and the same or do you two sleep together?
Major Bawls
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I agree...that is funny...Major Bowels, Holy S**T I'm exhausted from the laughter. And of course I like what you say. Rest assured I took no offense...I am not the same as noclue4me. They had their say...you had yours and I had mine. Even steven and all that unless of course you would like to up the ante'
Pursuit policies vary. Most indicate if you are going to engage in an activity which one could reasonably assume there is a heightened risk then you are to drop your rider at the nearest safe place.
Hope that answers your question. Could you answer mine? What type of work do you do?
Major Bawls
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Always on duty
Washington Post May 15...True professionalism
"You know, law enforcement is a profession that is very unique," said St. Mary's County Commissioner Daniel H. Raley (D-Great Mills). "They're on duty 24-7 to keep us safe."
I disagree with the very unique line. Our folks in military uniforms bear this same burden and in many cases are under extreme duress.
Washington Post May 15...True professionalism
"You know, law enforcement is a profession that is very unique," said St. Mary's County Commissioner Daniel H. Raley (D-Great Mills). "They're on duty 24-7 to keep us safe."
I disagree with the very unique line. Our folks in military uniforms bear this same burden and in many cases are under extreme duress.
foodcritic
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Hey johnycancer
Great line....if your corny user name is any indication of your personality you don't have long.......
Great line....if your corny user name is any indication of your personality you don't have long.......
Dork
Highlander's MPD
OK, even steven.
I still don't understand why anyone would have a problem with officers driving their cars off duty. In the long run, taxpayers would be forced to hire another body or two or twenty to pick up the slack if there were no off duty officers driving around.
Alot of jobs have their perks. The military, for example. You go into the military with no wife and kids. You decide to have a wife and a few kids. The military gives you $ and a place to stay and extra $$ for every kid you have. Police officers don't get paid any extra for having wives and kids and have to buy their own houses. I don't have a problem with military folks getting housing and money I'm just throwing in some food for thought.
Also, look at Federal Law Enforcement agencies like the FBI. These agents get nice new Chargers and SUVs to drive around in, to and from work, not providing any real deterrant to the taxpayers but you don't see anyone complaining about that. I'm not complainint. I think they should have cars.
There are a lot of people out there who get to drive a gov't issued or company car home but you don't see many people complaining about them. Police get bashed too often for stupid stuff. This car thing is just another one.
If you work for the airlines, you get free flights. If you work as a car dealer, you get a free car to drive home. If you work at Blockbuster, you get free movies.
Leave the Police alone. Try to see the benefit you get out of having that car moving around the county. Nuff said.
I have asked you this a couple of times. I don't know if you choose not to answer or haven't seen this. What type of work do you do?
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toppick08
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bdh802
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Come on Major. Should we assume you are a major in the army? Tell us what you do.
Major Bawls
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Geez
Gimme a break here...I do have a life and usually don't bother with the forums over the weekend.
What do I do? I work for the government but not in a capacity one would expect. Most persons are surprised. I will tell you that I have quite a few associates low and high level in three letter agencies. Most friends...I'll have to leave it at that.
Now...to put this thread in perspective, other counties are considering charging LEOs for using "official" vehicles whilst that LEO os engaged in part-time (can be read as off duty) employment.
Gimme a break here...I do have a life and usually don't bother with the forums over the weekend.
What do I do? I work for the government but not in a capacity one would expect. Most persons are surprised. I will tell you that I have quite a few associates low and high level in three letter agencies. Most friends...I'll have to leave it at that.
Now...to put this thread in perspective, other counties are considering charging LEOs for using "official" vehicles whilst that LEO os engaged in part-time (can be read as off duty) employment.
ImnoMensa
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I have no objection to Police Officers taking their cars home at night, I dont even care if they use them to go to the store or shopping, but lets not deny that it is a major perk.
When you think of the savings in not having to buy and insure a second car,not having to fill it with gas or provide maintenance for it, being able to park it most anywhere you like, not having the expense of driving back and forth to work, yeah, its a major perk.
Its a perk that most big city officers dont have, as they change shifts by getting in the car the off-duty shift just got out of. Then they have to clean out the trash the other shift left in it.
Also Police Officers are paid a pretty good salary, they arent in the poverty level of employment and with overtime and part-time money they make out pretty good. Better than many St. Mary's County residents.
To get back to the subject of a police officer driving a police vehicle while intoxicated, it should be a zero tolerance infraction. There is no excuse for it. Not any more than a Volunteer Firefighter coming to a call after leaving a bar. You wouldnt want him operating a piece of Fire Apparatus or even sitting in the seat next to the driver.
Use common sense when drinking ,stay off the road, skip that call.
When you think of the savings in not having to buy and insure a second car,not having to fill it with gas or provide maintenance for it, being able to park it most anywhere you like, not having the expense of driving back and forth to work, yeah, its a major perk.
Its a perk that most big city officers dont have, as they change shifts by getting in the car the off-duty shift just got out of. Then they have to clean out the trash the other shift left in it.
Also Police Officers are paid a pretty good salary, they arent in the poverty level of employment and with overtime and part-time money they make out pretty good. Better than many St. Mary's County residents.
To get back to the subject of a police officer driving a police vehicle while intoxicated, it should be a zero tolerance infraction. There is no excuse for it. Not any more than a Volunteer Firefighter coming to a call after leaving a bar. You wouldnt want him operating a piece of Fire Apparatus or even sitting in the seat next to the driver.
Use common sense when drinking ,stay off the road, skip that call.
Well, I guess since it's just an inquiry and not bashing, I have a couple of questions myself. When you were serving your brethren for twenty one years, did you complain when you had a command cookout and they served you food at the taxpayer’s expense even though you received extra money for rations? Did you ever complain when your brethren were flying standby on military hops for little or no money when commercial flights would have cost much more?
Now, are you also going to question YOUR waste of taxpayer dollars by posting things on the internet while your salary is being paid by the tax payer?
Just so you know, I approve of the things in the first paragraph provided to our service members and other perks at tax payer's expense, but just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of your post. Do as I say, not as I do attitude.
foodcritic
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I have to disagree with you there. Have you seen the starting salary for these deputies? You have to remember they are putting their lives on the line everytime they go to work - most St. Mary County residents can't say the same and I think most forget that. Most of the deputies that work overtime or part-time do it to make ends meet and take care of their families not because they want to work all the time and have nothing better to do. I think the residents in St. Mary's County don't know what a wonderful sheriffs department they have and how hard the deputies work for the little pay they get. Remember alot of these deputies have families they are not all single. Having a car is a huge perk but I know for a fact that if you work in NJ you don't get a take home car but the pay is alot better and can live reasonably close to the town they work in. But the taxes are incredible high there also. Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. People aren't willing to see their taxes go up to support a deputies salary. The least they can do is give them a car.