So I think I know what's wrong with young people these days

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There are many vendors at the Chesapeake Marketplace that sell vinyl. As I am there often both as an employee and vendor, I see a lot of what sells and many "young" people buy 70's vintage music like the Eagles, Creedence, Aerosmith, Clapton,etc. Older folks buy classic rock as well and once in awhile Sinatra, old jazz and blues or soul music.
Albums are pretty expensive but they sell.
 
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Then again, some more recent bands are making Good Music. An example is one of my recent favorites, Sabaton. They are a Swedish metal band that has very literate lyrics about historic, especially military, topics.

Here's the one they did as a paean to Audie Murphy, and his battle with PTSD.
 

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Then again, some more recent bands are making Good Music. An example is one of my recent favorites, Sabaton. They are a Swedish metal band that has very literate lyrics about historic, especially military, topics.

Here's the one they did as a paean to Audie Murphy, and his battle with PTSD.

I got a dollar says T-Bone and Heather won't be playing this anytime soon!
 

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Their music sucks. It's either gibberish autotune garbage, rap nonsense, or emo whiner bullshit. Where's their GNR? Where's their AC/DC? Their Bon Jovi, for gods sake? No Def Leppard. No Metallica. No ZZ Top or Motley Crue. Nothing to rock out to. We even had cool rock chicks like Heart and Joan Jett - all they have are talentless whiners like Miley Cyrus.

Do you suppose "they" did it on purpose, put out trash music to pop culturize these kids into fetal position losers? Like emotional saltpeter? And that's what's making them all trans?

These kids are melodramatic messes, then they lash out like lunatics to compensate. I suppose all 60 year olds have always looked at all 20 year olds and thought they were mental cases, but my god - today's kids are just a wreck and they wallow in it. My generation was dramatic, but not like this. Maybe because we didn't have the internet to find other messes to validate our comeapart - we at some point had to get our sh*t together and act like we had some sense because there wasn't a lot of tolerance for it.

Am I just being an intolerant old person?

Agreed. I think every generation as they get older has a problem with the younger generation's music. I know my parents didn't understand Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper. In the 70's we grew up on bands like Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple. Then Kiss came along and changed stage shows forever. I saw Ted Nugent, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Van Halen, Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Metallica, and many others in the 80's. It was fun.

And then it ended almost overnight. The asteroid that hit the Earth and destroyed the dinosaurs hit metal music. Grunge Rock. Nirvana. The basic feel of music went from "Hey this a party, let's rock, let's get drunk, and lets have a great time" to "This world really sucks, I hate my parents and I hate everyone else." I can't say I didn't like a lot of that music from Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden....but it was all depressing music that people eventually had to get tired of. I always thought music was a release to have a good time, not to get depressed.

I hate Hip-hop music. I'm not even sure there are any musicians in any of it. It's all computer generated music with rap vocals sung through Autotune which is simply a software program meant to make your voice sound robotic. It is a software extension of the old voice box that Joe Walsh and Peter Frampton used to use.

You might be an intolerant old person, but if you are I am right there with you. The music talent today is not anywhere close to what it used to be. Rock and metal music was the type of music that once it got into your blood, there was no stopping it. I loved buying all of the albums as soon as they came out in the 70's, and all of the cd's in the 80's. I still have over a thousand rock cd's and over 500 albums. Every concert I went to I had a good time at. And in reality, isn't that what something called entertainment is supposed to be all about?
 

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I think the number one telling clue in all of this is just HOW MUCH of "our" music that young kids know - and listen to.

Remember that teenagers today were born since 2003. The stuff we listened to came out 20, 30 years before they were even born.
The equivalent is us singing songs that came out in the 30's and 40's - and rocking out to them. How many of you can say that?
 

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I think the number one telling clue in all of this is just HOW MUCH of "our" music that young kids know - and listen to.

Remember that teenagers today were born since 2003. The stuff we listened to came out 20, 30 years before they were even born.
The equivalent is us singing songs that came out in the 30's and 40's - and rocking out to them. How many of you can say that?
I grew up listening to the big bands with my dad on our long trips to SM from Takoma Park in the 60s, I had a couple of 8 track knock offs myself, my friends liked them and a few bought a few themselves. Good music is great from whatever era it came from, just got to keep an open mind.

My daughter born in 85 grew up with my music from 50s, 60s, 70, and 80s she loves it, she gets my collection when I check out, I KNOW they will be in good hands and she will still listen to them. Hell she still borrows them today.
 

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I grew up listening to the big bands with my dad on our long trips to SM from Takoma Park in the 60s, I had a couple of 8 track knock offs myself, my friends liked them and a few bought a few themselves. Good music is great from whatever era it came from, just got to keep an open mind.

My daughter born in 85 grew up with my music from 50s, 60s, 70, and 80s she loves it, she gets my collection when I check out, I KNOW they will be in good hands and she will still listen to them. Hell she still borrows them today.

And I had some of that too, especially in a household that had my mom. She had a truly outstanding voice - something that I didn't realize unitl I was in my TEENS but I thought ALL moms sang like Doris Day. It was not unusual for her to be singing loudly in the house as she went about her business.

Typically, they were show tunes, so I grew up with Oklahoma!, Guys and Dolls, The King and I, Carousel, Flower Drum Song and South Pacific among others. She also sang old standards like Someone to Watch Over Me, I enjoy Being a Girl and You Belong to Me. If I even got WIND of an old song from the radio, she could immediately sing all of it.

But - there's a small difference with my kids - and it especially goes against the irritating "oh that was before I was born" thing that pisses me off - the idea that being ignorant of something before you were born is excusable. I wish I had a nickel for every time I answered "Before you were born? Hell it was before *I* was born - before your grandma was born".

And that is that they CHOOSE to listen to it. OVER the stuff that is current. This is mostly my son, and my older daughter - my youngest is abhorrent over ANYTHING that is "old". If someone makes a modern pic in black and white, she will quickly turn it off because THAT means it's old and not worthy of her viewing.

My son surprises me the most - he likes metal and hard rock, so he does actually like old Rush, Zeppelin or AC/DC stuff. The other day "Billy Jean" popped up on the radio and as I flipped it, he stopped me. Daughter was the same way with Smells Like Teen Spirit. And old Journey songs. So who knows.
 

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The music in my collection ranges from modern performances of ancient Greek and Roman music to Death Metal.
Very little Disco, some early Hip Hop, no hard Rap. Otherwise most everything in between the spread in the 1st sentence.
 
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Grandkids like old music.

Maybe they spend too much time with me.

But, 14 yr old grdaughter likes Guns & Roses, they were never on my listen to list. She's introducing me.
A lot of video games use old music. For instance: the Fallout games use a lot of music from the '40s and '50s; mainly from the so-called American Songbook, but in Fallout: New Vegas, we saw classic old country as well.

You see that a lot in the comments of songs from the '40s, '50s, '60s, and even '70s "Such and such a game brought me here."
 

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Well, I hope the hell not, because the same topic came up a few weekends back with some friends. I'm not ready to embrace being old and intolerant.

I might be able to pick "MAYBE" 5 artists that has produced good music since the early 90's but they are few and far between. Often, a few songs, and they dissapear into the fog never to be heard of again. The fact is, many of the artist of our younger years had talent. They also didn't have a social media outlet to express every thought when it happens.

Vince Everett Ellison, author, brought up an interesting point. He has said that the rap music is all about violence and hypersexualization of our youth. He has felt that this has been a contributing cause of the deterioration of our youth today coupled with the over reaching government.
Yeah, well, as much as I like the music of the '60s and '70s, let's not kid ourselves: it was all about sex, drugs, and/or rock and roll. Although I do agree with Ellison about crap. I mean rap.
 

gemma_rae

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Agreed. I think every generation as they get older has a problem with the younger generation's music. I know my parents didn't understand Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper. In the 70's we grew up on bands like Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple. Then Kiss came along and changed stage shows forever.
Not directed particularly at you:

In the early 70's The Alice Cooper Group was the biggest band in the world. Zepplin and Sabbath, were close, but no cigar. Tell me a song more well known than "School's Out".

Kiss added pyrotechniques, but where was the stage show? Where were the electric chair, the gallows, and the guillotine?
 

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Not directed particularly at you:

In the early 70's The Alice Cooper Group was the biggest band in the world. Zepplin and Sabbath, were close, but no cigar. Tell me a song more well known than "School's Out".

Kiss added pyrotechniques, but where was the stage show? Where were the electric chair, the gallows, and the guillotine?
The first time I saw Blue Öyster Cult, they were the opener for Alice Cooper.
Both Buck Dharma and Eric Bloom say that is where they learned the proper use of theatrics to frame the music.
 
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