So who's watching the debate tonight?

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For the first time in my life, I am actually considering voting for the other side and really hoping to hear something that is an actual issue (at least for me) and not abortion, woke, and Donald Trump. I don't hate Biden, but I can't quite figure out what he's done that's helped me out at all.

Anyway. I readily admit that I'm more of a Morning Joe listener, until I get sick of Mika and change to Dr. Phil or Snapped, but honest to God - what is this great healthy economy they keep talking about? Is it somewhere else besides Maryland maybe? My landlord keeps raising my rent $100.00 per year citing everything's going up so he has to go up as well, gas...Mika says it keeps going down but that seems to change for the worse on a daily basis, groceries are insane even in the commissary...and thank the gods I put in my twenty for my health benefits - I don't how the rest of the population does it. When is this great economy going to affect me for the good and will they talk about it?

Anyway that's what I'm hoping for tonight. What are you hoping for?
 
vraiblonde

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I'm not watching the debate because I can't stand any of those people except for DeSantis, therefore I don't care what they have to say. I'll try and watch the Trump/Tucker interview on Twitter, but honestly I'll probably forget and have to catch it tomorrow or something.
 
Bare-ya-cuda

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Well we all know hemihauler and smc79 will be watching. I won’t be tuning in. The herd needs to be thinned out.
 
SamSpade

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Meh. None of them have my interest. Ramaswamy did until I read more of his opinions on stuff NOT mentioned on TV. Nikki Haley is pretty much campaigning on “I’m a minority woman!”. The rest of them - meh.
 
SamSpade

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What the left is saying about how “healthy” the economy is ignores the 2+ years of inflation without a corresponding increase in wages. Which means hey economy is doing great - too bad most of you are going broke, tapping savings, cashing out retirement and paying more for everything each month.

Trump at least understood that fundamentally the cost of gas is baked into everything. By whatever means - keep gas prices down, you’ll be ok.

Biden has been depleting our SPR to shore up the economy. Time is running out.
 
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SamSpade said:
What the left is saying about how “healthy” the economy is ignores the 2+ years of inflation without a corresponding increase in wages. Which means hey economy is doing great - too bad most of you are going broke, tapping savings, cashing out retirement and paying more for everything each month.

Trump at least understood that fundamentally the cost of gas is baked into everything. By whatever means - keep gas prices down, you’ll be ok.

Biden has been depleting our SPR to shore up the economy. Time is running out.
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So how does it get fixed? I'm going to assume that prices won't be going back down. I'm retired, my income won't be going up. What should I be looking from these guys tonight?
 
LightRoasted

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If I may ...
For your consideration ...

It's not a debate. It's a, [gotcha], question, and answer session. Conducted as such for television sound bytes to smear a given candidate. I've yet to see an actual debate by any political candidates, such as those taught at universities.

NOTSMC said:
So how does it get fixed? I'm going to assume that prices won't be going back down. I'm retired, my income won't be going up. What should I be looking from these guys tonight?
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Short of an outright civil war, it can't be fixed. In the total fiat money system we have run by international private banksters, and aided by corrupt politicians on both sides, there is nothing we, individually, or collectively, can do, we are powerless. These candidates can do nothing to stop the train of abuses that is a result of the Federal Reserve banking system.
 
Clem72

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SamSpade said:
What the left is saying about how “healthy” the economy is ignores the 2+ years of inflation without a corresponding increase in wages.
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Wages definitely went up, just only on the lowest end of the scale (a majority of whom I assume vote blue).
 
NextJen

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Just curious, for those who say the economy can’t be fixed, are you saying that even if Trump somehow gets elected, he won’t be able to fix it? I thought the answer was to open up the pipeline, decrease regulations, and become energy independent again. Maybe even give incentives for manufacturing, especially computer chips and such.
 
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NextJen said:
Just curious, for those who say the economy can’t be fixed, are you saying that even if Trump somehow gets elected, he won’t be able to fix it? I thought the answer was to open up the pipeline, decrease regulations, and become energy independent again. Maybe even give incentives for manufacturing, especially computer chips and such.
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Four more years of Biden = certain death of the USA.
 
Clem72

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NextJen said:
Just curious, for those who say the economy can’t be fixed, are you saying that even if Trump somehow gets elected, he won’t be able to fix it? I thought the answer was to open up the pipeline, decrease regulations, and become energy independent again. Maybe even give incentives for manufacturing, especially computer chips and such.
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When people say it's not fixable they mostly mean you can't just roll back the inflation. Not with our current financial systems. So you can fix it, not by putting the genie back in the bottle but rather through slowly building up to where we are before. Need to reign in future increases in spending, reduce burdens on small/mid size businesses, allow the compressed wages of those who now only make slightly more than a burger flipper despite having a skilled trade or advanced education (and a job that required that education) to recover. Not impossible, just not fast.
 
LightRoasted

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

NextJen said:
Just curious, for those who say the economy can’t be fixed, are you saying that even if Trump somehow gets elected, he won’t be able to fix it? I thought the answer was to open up the pipeline, decrease regulations, and become energy independent again. Maybe even give incentives for manufacturing, especially computer chips and such.
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In a sound money sytem, when there are advancements in productivity and production efficiencies of things, prices at the consumer level go down. In our current system, there have been massive advancements in productivity and production efficiencies of things, but instead of falling prices, they keep the prices the same or increase them, with the profits going to straight to shareholders, and CEO and top level management pay. And sure, for a short while prices for energy might go down, if the pipeline were to open again, and a decrease in regulations were to occur, and we become energy independent again, those low prices would be temporary, becasue, inflation, the ever increasing of the money supply. The energy producers would have to raise prices to account for inflation, the devaluing of the dollar.

These are facts that get convoluted, and spun that are said to have other causes, such as bad weather, or some other word salad statement that requires mental gymnastics to understand.

Everything you see that is happening in the Nation today, is a direct result of the international privately owned Federal Reserve and corrupt politicians by their actions. They, and their member banks, control the money supply, as do other banks, by intentionally lowering standards to give loans that flood the market with new money, or severely restrict loans. When loans are restricted, the money supply shrinks as old loans are repaid causing great stress in the economy. Think more homelessness, increases in crime, increases in drug and alcohol abuse, home foreclosures, etc.. In addition, taxes, such a property taxes, were instituted to pay the back these loans at the governmental level. Read the requirements for any county to sell a bond, ie, take out a loan ... notice the line, "the unlimited taxing power of the County". So while the people might not be able to, or want to, get loans and go further into debt, governments do so for many BS reasons hypothecating your homes and lands as collateral. Did you are anyone vote for that?

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Clem72 said:
When people say it's not fixable they mostly mean you can't just roll back the inflation. Not with our current financial systems. So you can fix it, not by putting the genie back in the bottle but rather through slowly building up to where we are before. Need to reign in future increases in spending, reduce burdens on small/mid size businesses, allow the compressed wages of those who now only make slightly more than a burger flipper despite having a skilled trade or advanced education (and a job that required that education) to recover. Not impossible, just not fast.
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Will never happen. Because new loans spent into the economy are needed to keep it functioning and to pay back old loans, old debt. It doesn't matter if all regulatory burdens were thrown out. There would only be temporary price drops, or price stabilization, then prices would start to rise again. Also, it will never happen because the bankster vipers have complete control over our Nation and economy. Their tentacles are everywhere.

Everyone must face the facts. The only way to survive is to live well below ones means.
 
spr1975wshs

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I was watching music videos on YouTube.
Did open Twitter once in a while to see the Tucker - Trump view count.
Tis about 79.5 Million just now.
 
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