Solomons Bridge Jumper
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MMM_donuts
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If getting help were so easy then people that were suicidal would do it.
But here's the deal, some people that are depressed don't think that help will help. How's counseling going to help real problems like not having the money to support yourself and not seeing a way out of your situation? How is medication going to fix the fact that you've screwed up everything in life - so you feel happy but you still suck at life?
Sometimes medication is detrimental because it affords depressed people the energy to get their things in order so that they can commit suicide.
Counseling actually is pretty effective, btw, for many people because it gives the person additional tools to deal with stress. A different perspective. Hope. Medication can be helpful, too, because it can alleviate some of the physical signs and symptoms of depression while you work on your emotional and mental health.
If anyone is feeling depressed and considering suicide just know that there really is help out there, even if you don't think it will work or that your life is worth it. Seek it. You can be that person that was able to turn your life around. You can not only put yourself in a better place but you can serve as an example or inspiration to others. Your potential is endless. Look how different everything was 5 or 10 years ago and then imagine how different things will be 1, 5, or 10 years from now. At least give it a try, what have you got to lose?
But here's the deal, some people that are depressed don't think that help will help. How's counseling going to help real problems like not having the money to support yourself and not seeing a way out of your situation? How is medication going to fix the fact that you've screwed up everything in life - so you feel happy but you still suck at life?
Sometimes medication is detrimental because it affords depressed people the energy to get their things in order so that they can commit suicide.
Counseling actually is pretty effective, btw, for many people because it gives the person additional tools to deal with stress. A different perspective. Hope. Medication can be helpful, too, because it can alleviate some of the physical signs and symptoms of depression while you work on your emotional and mental health.
If anyone is feeling depressed and considering suicide just know that there really is help out there, even if you don't think it will work or that your life is worth it. Seek it. You can be that person that was able to turn your life around. You can not only put yourself in a better place but you can serve as an example or inspiration to others. Your potential is endless. Look how different everything was 5 or 10 years ago and then imagine how different things will be 1, 5, or 10 years from now. At least give it a try, what have you got to lose?
itsbob
I bowl overhand
If I ever become so inconsolable and troubled that I feel suicide is my only option, I'll try my best to jump from the bridge only between the hours of 1:30 a.m. and 4:30 a.m., so as to minimize the impact to local traffic patterns. And I will also leave my car at the base of the bridge, so no one will have to move it, nor will I impede the light traffic at that time of the day. I'll also wear a reflective body suit so that the searchers and recovery team will have a better chance of finding me quickly in the dark; it will also be adorned with BRIGHT orange trim pieces so that, if by chance they don't find me till daylight hours, I will be easier to spot. I will also wear a full-face helmet, so that when I hit the water, the force will kill me quickly, but my face will be intact, so that an open casket will be possible.
Of course, I will do all of this because I will be thoughtfully meticulous in my plans to kill myself.
Of course, someone who is so desperate to kill themselves is only thinking about the MOMENT, not about the implications of what happens during and after the suicide.
Can I pencil in a date??
I'm sure the Porsche, and BMW dealer would like to know when to expect me..
MMDad
Lem Putt
Until the cops look at the scene, they don't know if the bridge is a crime scene. If they disturb the scene any evidence is gone. They needed to speak to the witnesses, check out the car, and look for any evidence that might be around. They would essentially be looking for something that doesn't fit so that they'd know they really are looking at suicide and not murder.
As for Jen's question, I see nothing wrong with her asking. I took it as her wondering why, not her being heartless or complaining about it being closed.
The bridge was only closed for about an hour. The NIXLE alert for the closing came through at 6:42 PM, and for opening at 7:27 PM. Given what happened, I do not see that as excessive. Consider the time it would take to speak to each witness separately, then compare the stories looking for glaring inconsistencies. Search the car to look for possible ID, note, or other evidence. Run the tags and wait for the results.
SoMD_Fun_Guy
Do you like apples?
What if they don't speak English or Spanish?
Should the signs also be posted in French, German, Russian, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese, ... ?
As a society we don't want to offend anyone and leave anyone out, so when do we stop?
Should there be a braille sign as well for those that are visually impaired?
Maybe if we post enough of them on the bridge, the signs will essentially act as a wall high enough to not allow anyone to jump.
The simple answer is: they don't want to.
People are lazy and many times don't want to make any effort to fix their problem. We see it all the time with friends and family, and every day on here. Someone has a problem; others give them suggestions on how they can solve their problem; they reject all solutions with detailed explanations of why they "can't"; a few days later they're back complaining about the same problem.
This hurts!
Then why do you keep doing it?
At some point I don't give a damn anymore and just want them to shut up their whining.
Maybe if we post enough of them on the bridge, the signs will essentially act as a wall high enough to not allow anyone to jump.
slotpuppy
Ass-hole
What if they don't speak English or Spanish?
Should the signs also be posted in French, German, Russian, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese, ... ?
As a society we don't want to offend anyone and leave anyone out, so when do we stop?
Should there be a braille sign as well for those that are visually impaired?
Maybe if we post enough of them on the bridge, the signs will essentially act as a wall high enough to not allow anyone to jump.
I have never figgured out why there is braille on ATM's, blind people cant see the screen.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Be careful about assuming rational thought from a person who commits the ultimate irrational act.
People don't commit suicide because they are thinking logically. I've talked a few people down, once when I was only 17. The dark places people can go....
It could be that this guy thought he was being considerate. Waited till the end of rush hour. No mess to mop up. Since many people didn't understand why they wouldn't immediately tow the car and open the bridge, maybe he assumed the same. His family didn't have to find his body hanging in a closet. He didn't take anyone with him.
MMDad
Lem Putt
That only works if you assume they are being rational. Rational people don't kill themselves.
Sure they do. Kevorkian's patients were highly logical, to the point of having a consultation and making an appointment to have it done.
Not everyone who kills themself is an hysterical teenager suffering from unrequited cheerleader love.
kwillia
n/a
They should just make suicide illegal.What if they don't speak English or Spanish?
Should the signs also be posted in French, German, Russian, Japanese, Mandarin Chinese, ... ?
As a society we don't want to offend anyone and leave anyone out, so when do we stop?
Should there be a braille sign as well for those that are visually impaired?
Maybe if we post enough of them on the bridge, the signs will essentially act as a wall high enough to not allow anyone to jump.
My grandfather was quite rational when he killed himself.
Bay_Kat
Tropical
I only wondered why it was on drive thru ATMs.
bcp
In My Opinion
if they are undocumented cant we just consider it self deportation, or a form of apology?
Plus we can take the car and donate it to the white male college fund.
bcp
In My Opinion
because it is much cheaper to put the same numbers on all machines inside and out than it is for them to make specific buttons for each, plus putting different numbers on the machines would make them specific to location and use. Better to have all of the inventory ready to go where its needed regardless.
MMDad
Lem Putt
I think that even you can understand the difference between someone with a teminal disease choosing how it will end and someone so despondent that they'd jump off a bridge.
MMM_donuts
New Member
While I see your point and how it is sometimes applicable, I don't totally agree with you. I think there are much bigger issues than someone simply being too lazy. It may be the driving factor in your personal experience but I don't that sample size is large enough to speak for everyone.
If you want to be critical of their behavior, that's totally fine. I think it retains a valid place in our society and I certainly am not judging or discouraging it. I am, however, attempting to provide a different perspective. I feel like it's important to put it out there publicly because there are others who think along the same lines as I do and it adds to a more well-rounded discussion of the issue.