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vraiblonde said:
The simple answer is: they don't want to.

People are lazy and many times don't want to make any effort to fix their problem. We see it all the time with friends and family, and every day on here. Someone has a problem; others give them suggestions on how they can solve their problem; they reject all solutions with detailed explanations of why they "can't"; a few days later they're back complaining about the same problem.

This hurts!
Then why do you keep doing it?

At some point I don't give a damn anymore and just want them to shut up their whining.
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So she was lazy, she didn't try to get help? Here is a face of suicide - Shame on all of you that ridicule in your holier than thou world.

SoMdNews.com: State board charges Waldorf psychiatrist with violations
 
vraiblonde

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Let me tell you what I think is interesting:

He is still unidentified.

They found the car, I assume it is registered to someone, it shouldn't take long to contact the family, after which they will release the name.

Yet...still unidentified.
 
Pete

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vraiblonde said:
Let me tell you what I think is interesting:

He is still unidentified.

They found the car, I assume it is registered to someone, it shouldn't take long to contact the family, after which they will release the name.

Yet...still unidentified.
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Yes that is interesting.
 
sockgirl77

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vraiblonde said:
Let me tell you what I think is interesting:

He is still unidentified.

They found the car, I assume it is registered to someone, it shouldn't take long to contact the family, after which they will release the name.

Yet...still unidentified.
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They usually do not release the name of a suicide "victim", regardless if the next-of-kin is notified or not. The only reason that this is getting any media attention at all is because it was a bridge jumper. I can remember people calling me when I worked for TBN telling me that we were a horrible news source because we missed a suicide story about a man that hung himself. I can remember replying with "no, we chose to not run it". Not only did we think that it was unethical to run it, but the police do not even put out a release for suicides unless there is a crime involved.
 
pebbles

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sockgirl77 said:
They usually do not release the name of a suicide "victim", regardless if the next-of-kin is notified or not. The only reason that this is getting any media attention at all is because it was a bridge jumper. I can remember people calling me when I worked for TBN telling me that we were a horrible news source because we missed a suicide story about a man that hung himself. I can remember replying with "no, we chose to not run it". Not only did we think that it was unethical to run it, but the police do not even put out a release for suicides unless there is a crime involved.
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I'm not being a smart @ss here, but isn't suicide considered a crime? or is that just ATTEMPTED suicide?
 
kwillia

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ITS ME said:
So she was lazy, she didn't try to get help? Here is a face of suicide - Shame on all of you that ridicule in your holier than thou world.

SoMdNews.com: State board charges Waldorf psychiatrist with violations
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I read the entire article and wonder why the mother would fight so much to blame the doctor when:

During the final months of her life, Davis told Hussain she was drinking alcohol while taking her medications, having panic attacks and feeling edgy with a “racing mind all the time.”

Davis suffered manic episodes throughout her life, Blaso said, adding that a small amount of alcohol would transform her daughter into “this other person, where she would get upset and angry with people.”

Davis couldn't be committed unless she wanted to... so how could a psychiatrist be held responsible for whether or not a patient took the prescribed drugs appropriately and/or whether or not the patient chose to continue destructive behavior?
 
kwillia

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pebbles said:
I'm not being a smart @ss here, but isn't suicide considered a crime? or is that just ATTEMPTED suicide?
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I looked it up before making my post... it seems it is not against the law and states that had previously declared it against the law had de-criminalized it...:shrug:
 
MMDad

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pebbles said:
I've always thought it was. But I also think it's a ridiculous law to have.
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That's because the law doesn't exist. It is not illegal to commit or attempt suicide in Maryland. It is illegal to help someone else commit or attempt suicide.
 
cricketmd

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kwillia said:
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Davis couldn't be committed unless she wanted to... so how could a psychiatrist be held responsible for whether or not a patient took the prescribed drugs appropriately and/or whether or not the patient chose to continue destructive behavior?
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I think there are provisions to this. :shrug: If I recall correclty, I think you can be committed against your will if authorities, family, friends or your doctor thinks you are a threat to yourself or others. Hard to do though, I could be wrong but that was my understanding on all of this.

Also if you do go seek help, you have to sign over your rights to check yourself out of a facility when you like. You loose your freedom and liberty. You are at the hospital's mercy as to when you can leave, that can be weeks, then mandatory all day outpatient therapy for another week or more.

That said, its also hard to maintain a job if you are constantly in a hospital seeking help. I don't think its being "lazy" as someone called it earliler. I think its more about being practical and trying to keep a job at the same time. You need a job for benefits to get treatment - kind of a "Catch 22" :shrug: It doesnt sound like this lady had a job to worry about loosing though.

Sorry for the long read.
 
kwillia

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cricketmd said:
I think there are provisions to this. :shrug: If I recall correclty, I think you can be committed against your will if authorities, family, friends or your doctor thinks you are a threat to yourself or others. Hard to do though, I could be wrong but that was my understanding on all of this.

Also if you do go seek help, you have to sign over your rights to check yourself out of a facility when you like. You loose your freedom and liberty. You are at the hospital's mercy as to when you can leave, that can be weeks, then mandatory all day outpatient therapy for another week or more.

That said, its also hard to maintain a job if you are constantly in a hospital seeking help. I don't think its being "lazy" as someone called it earliler. I think its more about being practical and trying to keep a job at the same time. You need a job for benefits to get treatment - kind of a "Catch 22" :shrug: It doesnt sound like this lady had a job to worry about loosing though.

Sorry for the long read.
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My point is that Davis obviously had life-long mental issues and that drinking alcohol was detrimental to her mental status and character so how can the mother want to fight so hard to put blame on the doctor when all the doctor could do was try a variety of meds in a variety of increments... keepiing in mind that Davis drinking alcohol would negate the benefits of most all of them? It isn't like Davis could have been cured... even if the doc hit on the exact blend of meds all it would take would be for Davis to drink and/or chose not to take the right meds at the right times.
 
cricketmd

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kwillia said:
My point is that Davis obviously had life-long mental issues and that drinking alcohol was detrimental to her mental status and character so how can the mother want to fight so hard to put blame on the doctor when all the doctor could do was try a variety of meds in a variety of increments... keepiing in mind that Davis drinking alcohol would negate the benefits of most all of them? It isn't like Davis could have been cured... even if the doc hit on the exact blend of meds all it would take would be for Davis to drink and/or chose not to take the right meds at the right times.
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OIC, I agree :yay: Also the mother could have had her committed against her will. Its hard but you can do that legally. know its all monday quarterbacking, but that was an option she could have considered. Maybe commit her and ask for a different dr. or somethign or AA or something. Who knows. Good point thought! :buddies:
 
sockgirl77

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kwillia said:
My point is that Davis obviously had life-long mental issues and that drinking alcohol was detrimental to her mental status and character so how can the mother want to fight so hard to put blame on the doctor when all the doctor could do was try a variety of meds in a variety of increments... keepiing in mind that Davis drinking alcohol would negate the benefits of most all of them? It isn't like Davis could have been cured... even if the doc hit on the exact blend of meds all it would take would be for Davis to drink and/or chose not to take the right meds at the right times.
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:yeahthat: There is not a MAOI or anti-psychotic med out there that does not have an alcohol consumption warning label on it.
 
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