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[Mousebaby]

I'm glad someone said it, I was thinking it, but because of the way people gang up on newbies I didn't say anything! Thank you for a good kind hearted person!

This was for Nicole!

 

[virgovictoria]

You know, when I croak I hope there are numerous threads on here making light of it and joking around. I told my daughters that I'd like to die doing a cartwheel, have my arms give out and - bam - break my neck. Wouldn't that be a great story?

I hope it's something that is so good that nobody at my funeral can keep a straight face.

So don't take this so personally, Nicole. If the woman didn't want people talking about it, she wouldn't have killed herself in such a spectacular fashion. Or, PS, she wouldn't have killed herself at all.

I went to a funeral for someone who walked out into traffic... Of all things, there were balloons at the viewing..

I asked my buddy next to me what the balloons had on them....



















and I could have DIED when he said....



















in a hushed voice.....


















"Look Both Ways Before Crossing"


Of course the balloon said, "Farewell" or some other bizarre sentiment... but that set the tone...

 

[virgovictoria]

JMHO.....I think the lowest of lows is taking your own life. It's a cowards' way out and leaves a path of pain and sadness behind. Of course there is nothing funny about losing someone you love. However, these people did not lose their loved one to an accident, or an illness, she left them behind of her own accord. It is a selfish act.

I feel that having the option of taking your own life, in very complex situations, should be left to the individual.

 

[vraiblonde]

It is a selfish act.

I don't know as I agree with that. At the end of the day, it's her life and she can end it if she wants. Which isn't to say that her family and friends won't be devastated by it, but if she's in that much pain, she shouldn't have to suffer just to keep them from being sad.

Which brings me to another point:

Suicide rarely happens in a vacuum. Someone certainly knew she was unstable and having problems. I'm not blaming the family or anything like that, but it seems to me that had they paid a little more attention to this woman while she was alive, this thread wouldn't even be here.

 

[virgovictoria]

I don't know as I agree with that. At the end of the day, it's her life and she can end it if she wants. Which isn't to say that her family and friends won't be devastated by it, but if she's in that much pain, she shouldn't have to suffer just to keep them from being sad.

Which brings me to another point:

Suicide rarely happens in a vacuum. Someone certainly knew she was unstable and having problems. I'm not blaming the family or anything like that, but it seems to me that had they paid a little more attention to this woman while she was alive, this thread wouldn't even be here.

Add to this the expression that depression is often anger directed inwards...

Better in than out? Then who would you want offed? Just a thought... If she suffered from mental health issues, would you rather her have externalized it? Or internalized it? :randomthoughts:

 

[vraiblonde]

"Look Both Ways Before Crossing"

 

[Pandora]

I use to think suicide was a selfish act, but a selfish person does things with the intent to gain something. I don’t see where killing yourself allows you to gain anything? They are not thinking about those who are left behind, because, they feel that their life is completely and utterly worthless, and everyone around them would be better off without them in their world.

Depression, for whatever ever reason, is a deep dark hole and the longer one stays there, the deeper the hole becomes and the harder it is to get out. People think depression is just in one person’s head, but it puts the body through unbearable physical pain.

I hope none of the people who were close to her are blaming themselves. I know that is easier said than done, because nearly 7 years after my best friend shot and killed herself I entered counseling to deal with the issue of blaming myself for what she had done.

A few years back, another close friend of mine killed himself. Some may remember him when I’ve mentioned him before. He was a co-worker and a person who ran with the rescue squad in the area. Everyone did everything they could, including those who mentioned they knew him from the forum, but he just refused to climb out of that hole. :shrug: I think many of us could have one event or a series of events that could unlock the door to despair. The quicker a person shuts it, the better off they are.

 

[Mikeinsmd]

Thank you

So don't take this so personally, Nicole. If the woman didn't want people talking about it, she wouldn't have killed herself in such a spectacular fashion. Or, PS, she wouldn't have killed herself at all.

Suicide rarely happens in a vacuum. Someone certainly knew she was unstable and having problems. I'm not blaming the family or anything like that, but it seems to me that had they paid a little more attention to this woman while she was alive, this thread wouldn't even be here.

for typing my post for me.

Nicole's rant = If she was such a good friend why didn't she see this coming? If the woman was so close to her family, why didn't they see it coming?

Hey Nicole, didn't you just move here? Damn you get attached to people awful quickly.

 

[keepsmiling]

Hi Nicole

Thanks for saying what needed to be said. I as well as the other newbie quit posting because I was so disgusted at what I was reading. My prayers and thoughts are with you and the victim's family. Some of you guys are a trip; by that I mean very funny, but I just wish when we come here with serious stories that you could listen and save the jokes in private. We really don't know who could be reading this and trust me I am not one to judge, duh, look at my name, "keepsmiling".

This story means a lot to me for two reasons; one I have a family member who volunteers for the fire department. Needless to say, they tried desperately to find this person that evening and oh how disappointed they were when they couldn't.

Two: I have a family member who committed suicide due to an illness that couldn't be cured. What I've learned by my experience with suicide is this....the ones that truly truly want to die; they don't go around broadcasting it; so the family (Blessings to them) probably didn't even know. The ones that broadcast oh i'm going to kill myself they are looking for attention. My family had no way knowing that suicide was an option. So please don't beat this person to death, if anything please give her family the understanding they deserve. We don't know the whole story. I wish everyone of you could have seen that scene at that bridge that night, it was horrific to see. And at this point and time I don't really care if you beat me to death because I posted my true feelings, but please if you don't have anything human to say then just don't type at all or do it in private so that all can enjoy these forums.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

to the sad and pathetic cowards that left the karma without signing it again

Something happening on ... 10-14-2006 09:58 AM If you knew her why didn't you save her? You didn't help your friend when she was in need. You are pathetic.
Something happening on ... 10-14-2006 09:56 AM go preach at church


Eff you. If you have something to say then leave your name or PM you freaking ass coward, only a stupid, pathetic lame ass loser with nothing better to do than try to hurt people they really do not even know.

Do you know me? Do you know my freinds or my family to make such stupid off the all statments like that? I would love to meet you in person, you are the type of person that only runs off with the mouth when you think you are safe behind a computer. You want to talk shait then why don't you do when I know who you are.

You freaking loser, what goes around comes around and I wish I could see it when it comes around to you.

 

[Kyle]

If it bothers you so much why the #### do you keep reading this thread?

You're really enjoying it aren't you?

 

[Ken King]

Something happening on ... 10-14-2006 09:58 AM If you knew her why didn't you save her? You didn't help your friend when she was in need. You are pathetic.
Something happening on ... 10-14-2006 09:56 AM go preach at church


Eff you. If you have something to say then leave your name or PM you freaking ass coward, only a stupid, pathetic lame ass loser with nothing better to do than try to hurt people they really do not even know.

Do you know me? Do you know my freinds or my family to make such stupid off the all statments like that? I would love to meet you in person, you are the type of person that only runs off with the mouth when you think you are safe behind a computer. You want to talk shait then why don't you do when I know who you are.

You freaking loser, what goes around comes around and I wish I could see it when it comes around to you.

It is plain and clear that this woman didn't care enough about her own life or that of her friends and family to seek help versus taking a plunge. It is sad indeed that she felt that there was no other recourse for her. It speaks loudly as to how alone she was with all of these supposedly loving family and friends that are speaking up now.

How compassionate of you to want to see others suffer. Maybe this is just a little insight into why she felt that there was no other avenue for her to take.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

You know, when I croak I hope there are numerous threads on here making light of it and joking around. I told my daughters that I'd like to die doing a cartwheel, have my arms give out and - bam - break my neck. Wouldn't that be a great story?

I hope it's something that is so good that nobody at my funeral can keep a straight face.

So don't take this so personally, Nicole. If the woman didn't want people talking about it, she wouldn't have killed herself in such a spectacular fashion. Or, PS, she wouldn't have killed herself at all.

Vria I am taking it personally because I knew her. She was a good person, when I knew her she would give the shirt off her back to help anyone. She is a mother and IMO she was a good one. There is alot that happened to her and alot of things she had to deal with. Things I would not say in here.

Her family should not have to come in here and read this crap about someone they lost. They have suffered enough. Even if they do not know of these posts, someone will tell them. Some things should not be joked about, not everyone takes it the same way.

To lose someone that you cared about, afer suffering so much and to have perfect strangers make it a public joke is sickening.

It is not funny, it is in poor taste and reflects very poorly on others that come in here that do not think it is funny to make fun of someone losing their life. No matter how they lost it.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

JMHO.....I think the lowest of lows is taking your own life. It's a cowards' way out and leaves a path of pain and sadness behind. Of course there is nothing funny about losing someone you love. However, these people did not lose their loved one to an accident, or an illness, she left them behind of her own accord. It is a selfish act.

Do you know her? Do you know the whole story? Of course the ones left behind are going to suffer, and these posts do not make it any better.
You have NO IDEA what she went through before she did this.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

I don't know as I agree with that. At the end of the day, it's her life and she can end it if she wants. Which isn't to say that her family and friends won't be devastated by it, but if she's in that much pain, she shouldn't have to suffer just to keep them from being sad.

Which brings me to another point:

Suicide rarely happens in a vacuum. Someone certainly knew she was unstable and having problems. I'm not blaming the family or anything like that, but it seems to me that had they paid a little more attention to this woman while she was alive, this thread wouldn't even be here.

I am sure they did everything they could Vrai. But you can only do so much.....

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

for typing my post for me.

Nicole's rant = If she was such a good friend why didn't she see this coming? If the woman was so close to her family, why didn't they see it coming?

Hey Nicole, didn't you just move here? Damn you get attached to people awful quickly.

No I just MOVED BACK, you don't know me and you have no idea what we or anyone else knew or tried to do....you do not know anything except what was given out in the media.....so back the eff off. Do not assume anything.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Hi Nicole

Thanks for saying what needed to be said. I as well as the other newbie quit posting because I was so disgusted at what I was reading. My prayers and thoughts are with you and the victim's family. Some of you guys are a trip; by that I mean very funny, but I just wish when we come here with serious stories that you could listen and save the jokes in private. We really don't know who could be reading this and trust me I am not one to judge, duh, look at my name, "keepsmiling".

This story means a lot to me for two reasons; one I have a family member who volunteers for the fire department. Needless to say, they tried desperately to find this person that evening and oh how disappointed they were when they couldn't.

Two: I have a family member who committed suicide due to an illness that couldn't be cured. What I've learned by my experience with suicide is this....the ones that truly truly want to die; they don't go around broadcasting it; so the family (Blessings to them) probably didn't even know. The ones that broadcast oh i'm going to kill myself they are looking for attention. My family had no way knowing that suicide was an option. So please don't beat this person to death, if anything please give her family the understanding they deserve. We don't know the whole story. I wish everyone of you could have seen that scene at that bridge that night, it was horrific to see. And at this point and time I don't really care if you beat me to death because I posted my true feelings, but please if you don't have anything human to say then just don't type at all or do it in private so that all can enjoy these forums.

I wish I could have said it as good as you did instead of losing my temper the way I did. My heart goes out to you and thank you for being so kind to post such a supportive message. I cannot agree with you more. Not everything should be open for public joking. I still do not understand why anyone would find humor it something like this....or have the nerve to accuse me, her freinds or family for not saving her. It is a shame....again my heart and best wishes to you.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

If it bothers you so much why the #### do you keep reading this thread?


You're really enjoying it aren't you?

eff you

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

It is plain and clear that this woman didn't care enough about her own life or that of her friends and family to seek help versus taking a plunge. It is sad indeed that she felt that there was no other recourse for her. It speaks loudly as to how alone she was with all of these supposedly loving family and friends that are speaking up now.

How compassionate of you to want to see others suffer. Maybe this is just a little insight into why she felt that there was no other avenue for her to take.

but in your other post you wrote

But how the hell can you find any blame in what was posted, it was simply informational, at least in my mind? I doubt if anyone blames any of the family for what this person did. Hell, who knows or how are you to know unless there is very clear evidence when someone is going to go whacko and kill themself?

Ken,
I expected more from you. It is not plain and clear, because you do not have the whole story on her or other people that attempt or deal with suicidal thoughts. You have no idea what she went through, what her family went through or her friends that did try to help. You have no idea of anything that lead up to this point. You can only but so much and even those closest to her may never understand why she did what she did.

 

[Kyle]

eff you

That certainly answers the question.

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