Sonny Perdue - What a Fine American

demsformd

New Member
Tell me what ya'll think is fair here.

This week two prominent Georgia politicans died - former Atlanta Mayor Maynard Jackson and former Governor Lester Maddox. Jackson was the first black mayor of Atlanta and was a major force in the desegregation of that city. He died and many prominent politicians in the state asked Governor Perdue to lower the state's flag to half-staff. Governor Perdue, however, declined the request and would only lower the flag on the day of Mr. Jackson's funeral. When Maddox died a couple of days later, Perdue was so kind as to honor the segregationist with lowered flags immediately for a week.

Is this fair? Comments...
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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We can't comment on fairness until we know the political parties involved.
:lmao: :yay:

More information, please. I'm assuming you're going after a racist angle? But it would stun me if, in this day and age, a Governor was blatantly and publicly racist.

And I'd also like to get your definition of "fair".
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
Originally posted by vraiblonde

More information, please.

:yeahthat:

Consider this, one was a former mayor, were the flags lowered in his jurisdiction of Atlanta? The other was a governor, a bigger office and statewide.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Originally posted by cmcdanal
:yeahthat:

Consider this, one was a former mayor, were the flags lowered in his jurisdiction of Atlanta? The other was a governor, a bigger office and statewide.
:yeahthat: Why should the entire state have to lower flags for a mayor? :confused: It wasn't like he was mayor of Brunswick, Savannah, Dunwoody, Albany and points in between.
 

mrs. katie

New Member
Rick forgot to mention that both of these guys were Democrats and Perdue is a Republican. So that segregationist, if I recall, was a Democrat.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Originally posted by mrs. katie
So that segregationist, if I recall, was a Democrat.
Most Democrats were segregationists back then - that whole Southern thing.
 
Originally posted by vraiblonde
Most Democrats were segregationists back then - that whole Southern thing.

Like the old saying goes "a Southern Democrat is a Northern Republican"

My dad told me that (he's a southern democrat)
 
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Bruce

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oops, I knew I forgot something.

Fair, no, it's NOT fair (having to read all your er.... thought provoking (?) posts), but you are entitled to your sillyazzed opinion :bs:
 

demsformd

New Member
Yes Maddox was a Democrat but southern Democrats are now Republicans. They were ultraconservative then. The fact remains that a crusader for equality and the first black mayor of Atlanta did not receive fair treatment compared to that segregationist.
 

Toxick

Splat
Originally posted by demsformd
Yes Maddox was a Democrat but southern Democrats are now Republicans. They were ultraconservative then. The fact remains that a crusader for equality and the first black mayor of Atlanta did not receive fair treatment compared to that segregationist.


That tears it.

Republicans are nothing but hypocritical racist pigs.
Every damned one of them.

Hypocrites.

Racists.

Pigs.


You see, being that all republicans are hypocrite racist pigs and share a hive-mind, it's things like this that lead me to believe that all republicans should be rounded up like lame mules and shot.
 
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Bruzilla

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CMC has it right. Flags can only be flown at half-staff (or half-mast aboard ship) statewide for the loss of a former or current state official (governor, senator, congressman, etc.) A governor can't order a state-wide mourning for a city offical, but the current mayor can have the city's flags flown at half-staff/mast.

Nice try to discredit a Republican by ignoring little things like rules and laws Dems, but no cigar on this one. :biggrin:
 

demsformd

New Member
Originally posted by Bruzilla
CMC has it right. Flags can only be flown at half-staff (or half-mast aboard ship) statewide for the loss of a former or current state official (governor, senator, congressman, etc.) A governor can't order a state-wide mourning for a city offical, but the current mayor can have the city's flags flown at half-staff/mast.

Nice try to discredit a Republican by ignoring little things like rules and laws Dems, but no cigar on this one. :biggrin:

I am sorry Bruzilla but do you have a link or anything to provide credibility to this claim because I have never heard this one before. From what I understand, the governor of a state can lower the state's flags for any high profile person's death.

BTW, a senator or congressman is not a state official. They are federal officials.
 
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Bruzilla

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Of course I can provide you with facts to support what I said. As a Republican I check my facts out before accusing someone of being a racist. I find it helps to prevent a lot of misunderstandings. The rule that covers half-staff(mast) flag flying is Title 4 of the United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 7, Sub-Section M, which reads...

"The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection -

the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;

the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and

the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico."

In short, the governor can order the flags flown at half mast/staff for state officials, not city officials. And for the record, and backed up by the US Code, United States Senators and Congressmen ARE considered to be state officials. By the way, I drove through South Carolina after Strom Thurmond died and the flags were at half mast at all government offices.

Also, Georgia law Sec. 45-12-83.1. Display of state flag, does not have a provision for flying the state flag at half staff/mast. Many southern cities have flags that can be flown at half staff/mast in memory of a city offical passing (I remember the City of Jacksonville flags being flown at half staff when a former mayor died back in the 80s.)

Please feel free to forward this information along to Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton before they head off to Atlanta and make fools of themselves. One Dem falling for this race baiting is bad enough. :biggrin:
 
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