Special Comment on Danica Patrick's Motegi win

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I believe you are wrong again.

1. Danika is a rockstar in IRL.

2. If she goes to the single A farm system of NASCAR she will be a nobody and that will not make her happy.

3. Trucks are not sexy.

4. She is a mediocre Indycar driver in great equipment. Hornish, Montoya, Franchitti, Mears and a half dozen others were great drivers in IRL and CART who jumped to NASCAR and have sucked ass. I don't think Patrick shares your delusions that she is going to go over to the redneck side, crawl in and even be remotely competitive.

Did you see your boy Boris Said at Mexico. He got into it with Ambrose.

Told the 59's CC that he's sorry about the racecar they're gonna have to fix one day.

 

[Pete]

I agree. I DON'T think Danica can compete in NASCAR, even in good equipment.

But, the sponsors are a large part of this sport. The sponsors were a large part of Franchitti and Hornish coming over.

Hornish will be successful. Give him time. He's still young enough to have solid success in NASCAR. I can't say the same for Dario Franchitti. Hornish, like Montoya did early, is showing improvement. I think Sam and Juan Pablo are the only ones who will have success.

I don't think so. Hornish is a 3 time IRL champ who came over in Penske equipment and has an average finish of 30th and that is with a 15th at Daytona. He is on the verge of dropping out of the top 35 and having a secure spot.

Look at the crappy/inexperienced drivers/equipment ahead of him or close behind.

Jeremy Mayfield
Scott Riggs
Paul Menard
David Rueteman
David Gilliland
JJ Yeley
Regan Smith

Hell even Mark Martin is ahead of him and he has sat out 2 races.

 

[Michael Delaney]

Half the tire? Where did ya get that, and what does that have to do with anything?

How exactly is a NASCAR harder to drive? Physically? I seriously doubt that. A racecar, whether a NASCAR, F1 car, Endurance sports car, or even just an endurance kart is hard to race physically and mentally. Not just for the aspect of wrenching the wheel, but due to G-forces from turning, decelerating, and accelerating. Now take into consideration the G-forces achieved by open wheel cars, as compared to stock cars.

Andy, you wouldn't even be able to drive an Indy Car out of the pits without killing the engine.

It means, and read carefully:

DANICA CAN NOT HAVE THE SUCCESS SHE'S HAD IN INDYCAR OVER IN NASCAR.

NASCAR cars are twice as big, with half as much tire. Open wheel cars are just easier to drive. :shrug:

You, sir, are the moron.

 

[tommyjones]

Andy, you wouldn't even be able to drive an Indy Car out of the pits without killing the engine.

you know what they say:
"those who can, do
those who cant, teach
those who cant teach write about it on the internet thinking they are stars"

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I don't think so. Hornish is a 3 time IRL champ who came over in Penske equipment and has an average finish of 30th and that is with a 15th at Daytona. He is on the verge of dropping out of the top 35 and having a secure spot.

Look at the crappy/inexperienced drivers/equipment ahead of him or close behind.

Jeremy Mayfield
Scott Riggs
Paul Menard
David Rueteman
David Gilliland
JJ Yeley
Regan Smith

Hell even Mark Martin is ahead of him and he has sat out 2 races.

The finishing result doesn't always show for the performance of the race. There were a couple of races where he was running very well and got caught up in a wreck. That, too, is part of racing. Luck.

Montoya started off very badly as well, and he's collected a few top-5 finishes and won at Sears Point (I know, I know, Infineon ) a year ago. I think he finished 2nd at Indy. Montoya and Sorenson would both be doing big things if they were in a better team.

I wish RCR weren't wasting their time with Bobby Labonte. I like Labonte, but he's good as done. I'd rather see them talking to Reutimann, Lagano, C Wallace, or someone who's going to give them a chance. Heck, Scott Wimmer's done incredible over in the Nationwide Series.

But, Labonte's got a champions provisional.

Hornish is committed to NASCAR. He's not going anywhere.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Half the tire? Where did ya get that, and what does that have to do with anything?

How exactly is a NASCAR harder to drive? Physically? I seriously doubt that. A racecar, whether a NASCAR, F1 car, Endurance sports car, or even just an endurance kart is hard to race physically and mentally. Not just for the aspect of wrenching the wheel, but due to G-forces from turning, decelerating, and accelerating. Now take into consideration the G-forces achieved by open wheel cars, as compared to stock cars.

Andy, you wouldn't even be able to drive an Indy Car out of the pits without killing the engine.

Yep, IRL cars aren't any different than NASCAR. Okay.

Stewart, Mears, Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Robby Gordon, Fittapaldi, Montoya, Franchitti, Hornish, Villenuve are all lying when they say driving a stock car is the hardest thing they've had to do.

They're all wrong because you've driven a lawn-mower engine powered go-kart around Summitt Point and know all about racing.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Half the tire? Where did ya get that, and what does that have to do with anything?

How exactly is a NASCAR harder to drive? Physically? I seriously doubt that. A racecar, whether a NASCAR, F1 car, Endurance sports car, or even just an endurance kart is hard to race physically and mentally. Not just for the aspect of wrenching the wheel, but due to G-forces from turning, decelerating, and accelerating. Now take into consideration the G-forces achieved by open wheel cars, as compared to stock cars.

Andy, you wouldn't even be able to drive an Indy Car out of the pits without killing the engine.

I have considered all that.

The NASCAR races are, what, two or three times as long as an IndyCar race? And there are more than twice as many races in NASCAR.

Once again, Michael, you've shown your knowledge of motorsport is contained to driving a Chevrolet Malibu around Summit Point.



I've seen some of those NASCAR drivers get out and flat pass out after some of those races.

IRL's longest race: Indianapolis 500. All their other races are 200 mile events.

NASCAR's longest race: Coca-Cola 600. The average NATIONWIDE SERIES race is longer than most IRL races.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Hey Tommy.

 

[tommyjones]

I have considered all that.

The NASCAR races are, what, two or three times as long as an IndyCar race? And there are more than twice as many races in NASCAR.

Once again, Michael, you've shown your knowledge of motorsport is contained to driving a Chevrolet Malibu around Summit Point.



I've seen some of those NASCAR drivers get out and flat pass out after some of those races.

IRL's longest race: Indianapolis 500. All their other races are 200 mile events.

NASCAR's longest race: Coca-Cola 600. The average NATIONWIDE SERIES race is longer than most IRL races.

still waiting for you to say that you have actually drive anything other than a go-kart yourself......

but keep up the bloggin

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

still waiting for you to say that you have actually drive anything other than a go-kart yourself......

but keep up the bloggin

I have, my SUV, and it goes plenty fast. I have the court papers to prove it.

 

[Pete]

The Japan 300 had just as many cars as the field did last year.

Helio had to let her by, he couldn't make it on fuel. Fuel strategy is part of racing.

I don't think the Champ Car field will be that strong on the ovals. The ChampCar drivers sucked at Miami, and I imagine they'll suck at Kansas. As far as that's also concerned, Danica has historically run better on road-courses (not street courses like St. Pete, but tracks like Sonoma and Belle Isle).

:shrug:

I don't think Danica will stay in IndyCar. Her sponsors are going to want more, and there's only one place you can get that. NASCAR. And, some of the NASCAR drivers don't want a woman in the field. Remember Mike Wallace wrecking out Shana (sp?) Robinson a few years ago?

Now, I don't think these drivers are gonna mess with Chrissy. She's got the bull on her side. But, Danica's going to have to prove herself over again.

Based off what I'm hearing, I'd say we should expect Danica to make the move.

As many as last year or not it was not a full field.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

still waiting for you to say that you have actually drive anything other than a go-kart yourself......

but keep up the bloggin

No, I haven't driven a race car.

But, again. I'm more inclined to believe Tony Stewart than Michael Delaney. At least I can verify Tony's racing resumé.

 

[MMDad]

I have, my SUV, and it goes plenty fast. I have the court papers to prove it.

34 in a 25 makes you a racecar driver?

Go, Speed Racer, go!

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

As many as last year or not it was not a full field.

Full field or not, a win's a win. Even if the Champ Car drivers had run there, chances are they wouldn't have been factors. The Champ Car drivers sucked at Miami. There was basically an option for those teams, street course or oval. They chose to run the CCWS event for a reason - they weren't going to contend in Motegi. I think their affect, had they raced in Motegi, would be minor.

But, it's too hard to tell either way. Should've, could've, would've. It's all Monday morning quarterbacking at this point. :shrug:

 

[Michael Delaney]

Again your ignorance of racing shines through...
Just keep writing about it. That will make you an expert. Us racers will just keep racing and seeing your gibberish on the forum.

Lawn mower powered kart? Wrong again, like usual.
I don't know all about racing, just far more than you. Posting in a forum about racing doesn't make a person an expert on racing. Racing, makes a person an expert on racing.
Tell me Andy, what racing experience do you have?
Play Station sim racing ? Driving like a nut up and down 235?

Yep, IRL cars aren't any different than NASCAR. Okay.

Stewart, Mears, Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Robby Gordon, Fittapaldi, Montoya, Franchitti, Hornish, Villenuve are all lying when they say driving a stock car is the hardest thing they've had to do.

They're all wrong because you've driven a lawn-mower engine powered go-kart around Summitt Point and know all about racing.

 

[Pete]

Based off what I'm hearing, I'd say we should expect Danica to make the move.

Based off what you are hearing? Please It is the same Danikamania everyone hears everytime she unzips her fire suit half way in hot weather.

She's going to NASCAR

She's the greatest

She just passed gas


You have no stinkin insight no one else has. If she looked like your average run of the mill homely midwestern chick she likely would not be rock star famous, driving for Andretti in top notch equipment and no one would even care.

All that being said she is a talented driver and she is hot and she is working it like a rib for her time in the sun. Good on her.

 

[tommyjones]

No, I haven't driven a race car.

But, again. I'm more inclined to believe Tony Stewart than Michael Delaney. At least I can verify Tony's racing resumé.

well then stop acting like you need to have driven one in order to have an opinion.


BTW, i got a ticket for doing 80 in a 35 in my 5.0, that must mean i am a fraking legend in the racing world bwhahahahahaha

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

34 in a 25 makes you a racecar driver?

Go, Speed Racer, go!

Ain't nobody "the world's greatest drivers" until they've driven rush hour on the beltway.

I'm arguing with Michael here, telling me driving any racecar is the same and that NASCAR is no different than IndyCar or GrandAm. I've stated that Tony Stewart has run all those classes of racing and says NASCAR's the hardest. Tony, unlike Michael, has a reputable racing reputation. As far as I know, Michael's "raced" at Summitt Point. But, none of that is verifiable. Guess who I'm more inclined to believe?

 

[Pete]

It means, and read carefully:

DANICA CAN NOT HAVE THE SUCCESS SHE'S HAD IN INDYCAR OVER IN NASCAR.

NASCAR cars are twice as big, with half as much tire. Open wheel cars are just easier to drive. :shrug:

You, sir, are the moron.

I disagree again. Driving anything that goes 240mph is not easy, Indy cars are different but not easier.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Again your ignorance of racing shines through...
Just keep writing about it. That will make you an expert. Us racers will just keep racing and seeing your gibberish on the forum.

Lawn mower powered kart? Wrong again, like usual.
I don't know all about racing, just far more than you. Posting in a forum about racing doesn't make a person an expert on racing. Racing, makes a person an expert on racing.
Tell me Andy, what racing experience do you have?
Play Station sim racing ? Driving like a nut up and down 235?

And, all you have shown to back up your statements is unverifiable claims that you raced at Summitt Point Raceway and self-indulgance.

You dissappoint me everytime you post.

You haven't raced in NASCAR. So, just as your shooting off your mouth at me, how would you know what racing in the NASCAR Cup Series is like. :shrug: You've kept shooting off that I'm wrong and you're right because you driven a race car. :shrug:

Yep, you're right. IRL is exactly the same as NASCAR. Tony, Juan Pablo, Jeff and Robby Gordon, Dario Franchitti and the long list of others are all liars because Michael Delaney, 7-time NASCAR champion, knows all.

Oh, wait a minute.

You hate NASCAR, you hate NASCAR drivers and you hate everything about NASCAR. I think you've made your point clear. NASCAR drivers are pussies because they race twice as many races that are twice as long in cars that are twice as heavy as open wheel cars. Okay, fine. You're right.